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LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)How about just tyrants using them as pawns, like the child soldiers were used as pawns during the Nigerian civil war.
Don't make this about racism, because this ain't it, it's a madman, Putin, attacking another country, not because of race, but because he's bat shit crazy.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)something. Gotta get my eyes checked.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)seems like a weird distinction to make.
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)(Left to Right) George V of Great Britain, Wilhelm II of Germany, and Nicholas II of Russia.
Look at these three, cousins, who opted to launch what would become World War 1 rather than work out power sharing with their people who overwhelmingly wanted no part of war. Now, Putin fancies himself a Czar.
https://www.amazon.com/King-Kaiser-Tsar-Three-Cousins/dp/0802716237
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)young soldiers have always been used by tyrants, rather white, black, asian, etc., this isn't about racism, this is about a maniac illegally attacking a sovereign nation.
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)From 4 years ago
In Putins Circle, Obama Was the 'N-Word
By Richard Prince
The Root, 3/16/18
Russian President Vladimir Putin was so contemptuous of Barack Obama that Putins aides, if not Putin himself, would refer to the United States first black president using the N-word, according to a just-released book by two investigative reporters.
Michael Isikoff, now chief investigative correspondent for Yahoo News, and David Corn, Washington bureau chief for Mother Jones, also cite information indicating that Donald Trump, who had claimed that Obama was not born in the United States, vied with Putin in his hatred of the 44th president. They report on a controversial dossier that said Trump hired prostitutes to defile space where the American president and first lady had slept.
Putin and his inner circle had nothing but utter contempt for Obama and his administration much of it cast in racist terms, Isikoff and Corn write in Russian Roulette: : The Inside Story of Putins War on America and the Election of Donald Trump.
Putin and his top advisers routinely denigrated Obama and his national security team as weak and indecisive and then, contradictorily, blamed him for meddling in Russias internal affairs. In Putins presence, Obama would be called a monkey, and it was not uncommon for the American president to be referred to as the N-word.
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https://www.theroot.com/putins-circle-considered-obama-the-n-word-1823832442
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Sending young men of all races to war. Illegal wars in my life. We dont force children here we just have drafted them when they wont volunteer.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)yardwork
(61,588 posts)Many of the poorer people in Russia are of ethnicities that might be considered "non-white."
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)in Russia, how will the people there react.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Putin is destabilizing his own country by invading UKR.
And he hasn't seen the worst of it yet.
70sEraVet
(3,493 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)who are much more tech savvy.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)DFW
(54,349 posts)But the general gist of it was what are you doing here, you are not wanted here, and the word дурак (fool) was shouted in there somewhere.
Aristus
(66,316 posts)When we blitzkrieged Iraq and the Iraqis started fighting back, the reaction was: Theyre being MEAN to us! Theyre supposed to be GRATEFUL!
One of these days, were going to learn from all this unwarranted aggression
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)For example, initially, the vast bulk of Iraq's army did not offer real resistance to the American invasion. They had little real loyalty to Iraq's government, which needless to say, was not popularly elected. Americans totally botched the initial occupation phase, among other blunders. Russia is being totally resisted from day one.
jeffreyi
(1,939 posts)We were the naked aggressors in Iraq. And who benefitted from that. Shame, shame, shame. It's time for humanity to grow up, or just go away. BTW, Ukraine has titanium, uranium, iron, other juicy mineral resources.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)All over the world rich people who grabbed power start wars, and everybody else suffers, including the soldiers.
When I was a kid my parents knew a German family. The man had been conscripted into the Nazi army during WWII. He'd served on the eastern front, against Russia. He was lucky to survive. He didn't want to be a Nazi soldier. He was just a kid.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)They were especially grateful for our presence when ISIS was expanding it's territory
Aristus
(66,316 posts)We want you here. Please stay.
No. Were well out of it now. And if theyre so afraid of ISIS, they can use their IEDs against them.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)It's extremely rare to hear of an American killed or wounded in Iraq for sometime.. and let's not forget the Kurds, who are a sizeable minority in Iraq, want us there too.
Iraq is a nation created by Great Britain and France after WWII with no regard to the hodgepodge of clans, tribes, ethnic groups and religions of the people's who found themselves inside the newly drawn borders. Your average Iraqi is more likely to be loyal to his or her tribe or clan then to the nation of Iraq itself.
Aristus
(66,316 posts)Leaving them in the lurch was a really bad idea.
Invading Iraq was just one bad idea in the whole string of bad ideas that began with drawing an arbitrary border around mutually-hostile peoples. Thanks for nothing, Winston...
FSogol
(45,476 posts)gay texan
(2,442 posts)He's scared shit-less. He probably just saw some innocent person blown to bits. Every fiber of his being is telling him that this is wrong.
I feel sorry for him. He's being forced to do something that he doesn't want to do.
The only thing he has left now is tears, he will never be the same.
While my dad won't talk about Vietnam much, I have to wonder if he had a moment like this. Mom has told me that he left happy go lucky and returned a completely different person.
I fucking hate war and the bullshit reasons humanity finds to get into them.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)I could not agree more.
I hope they didn't harm this young soldier, all he wants to do is go home.
The kind thing to do would be to feed this young Russian and take him to the Ukrainian authorities for processing.
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)I hope that is what they did.
crickets
(25,962 posts)I'm wondering how old he really is. The whole situation is so very sad.
Raine
(30,540 posts)moondust
(19,972 posts)from the evil Nazis committing genocide against you. You should be thanking me and our great leader for our heroism."
Stand by for continuing Sputnik coverage of the Great War of Oblast Liberation.
msongs
(67,395 posts)Don't out them for it
This is Guerilla warfare
Rhiannon12866
(205,211 posts)jmowreader
(50,554 posts)"I only graduated from Basic Training two weeks ago. Last week they handed me 210 rounds of ammunition and told me I was coming here. You don't want me in your country? That makes two of us!"
steve2470
(37,457 posts)A rumor I read on Twitter said, supposedly, 500 troops mutinied when they realized they were going to Kiev. I didn't post that one, just seemed a bit too good to be true for Ukraine.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I hope they let him take off that uniform and then gave him something to eat.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)He's not being captured or killed, just getting an angry lecture from older adults. Like a parent might yell at one of their kids who just did something bad or stupid. The soldier is acting the same way, like a remoseful son who knows what he did was wrong.
JI7
(89,247 posts)most Russians have already been suffering . And he starts this war for his ego .