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msongs

(67,366 posts)
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:30 PM Feb 2022

so how does one get supplies to ukraine like stingers and anti tank shells?

the air space is closed and russia will shoot down transports. the western border is a long way from the combat zones and is clogged with refugees. so far russia apparently is not shooting up the rail network but could at any time.

how do we get the stuff there...

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so how does one get supplies to ukraine like stingers and anti tank shells? (Original Post) msongs Feb 2022 OP
Thru Poland..that's where our largest deployment is PortTack Feb 2022 #1
Western side of UKR is pretty much open for business and RA doesn't have enough air supremacy . uponit7771 Feb 2022 #2
GunHub lame54 Feb 2022 #3
LOL!! MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #6
I suggest we stamp the javelins as AIRMAIL cachukis Feb 2022 #4
Time to brush off the dust on Air America. Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #5
Convoys from Poland Amishman Feb 2022 #7
Was just reading about some massive resupply convoys Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #9
Russia has been rather cautious with their airpower Amishman Feb 2022 #16
Yes.... they have lost a considerable number of aircraft. Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #17
well I suppose if the russians can "invade" so can we...hmmm nt msongs Feb 2022 #8
You didn't get the answers you expected? Hav Feb 2022 #11
if the logic is it's ok to invade ukraine, let everyone in on it nt msongs Feb 2022 #12
Makes sense, Hav Feb 2022 #15
sneakily? llashram Feb 2022 #10
Poland, Slovakia and Romania. roamer65 Feb 2022 #13
Not just Poland BGBD Feb 2022 #14
I'm all for this, but realize the Russians may take action against the weapons flow. They have many Cognitive_Resonance Feb 2022 #18
Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania border Ukraine Kaleva Feb 2022 #19

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
2. Western side of UKR is pretty much open for business and RA doesn't have enough air supremacy .
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:33 PM
Feb 2022

... to stop convoys from the air like the US did in both Iraq wars.

It's REALLY important that UKR keep the air open, that's their life line

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
7. Convoys from Poland
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:45 PM
Feb 2022

There's even been photos circulating if it.

Plus the Ukrainians still have a number of airfields, fly a cargo plane in from the west, flying at little more than treetop level

I'm finally feeling OK about the response by the US and others.

Happy Hoosier

(7,221 posts)
9. Was just reading about some massive resupply convoys
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:03 PM
Feb 2022

And as long as Russia does not have Air Supremacy
, that’ll be safe. We need to make sure Russia is denied Air Supremacy in western Ukraine. Air defense systems preferred, but a no-fly zone enforced from the air if necessary.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
16. Russia has been rather cautious with their airpower
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:54 PM
Feb 2022

I'm thinking the hundreds of GROM-M missile systems Poland provided right before the fighting started is a big part of it. From what I'm reading they're cutting edge and likely better than even US current issued equipment

The bold botched para-drops are at odds with that though, not sure what to make of it

Happy Hoosier

(7,221 posts)
17. Yes.... they have lost a considerable number of aircraft.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:00 PM
Feb 2022

At least two IL-76 transports on airborne insertion missions. Plus lots of helicopters and jets.

The newest Stingers are quite good, but we're stingy with them. We don't want them falling in to Russian hands. But frankly, just gobs of even relatively older stuff will do the trick. Most of the Russian equipment is old and doesn't have a ton of countermeasure capability.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
11. You didn't get the answers you expected?
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:09 PM
Feb 2022

No one said anything about the need to invade anyone. Ukraine has borders to NATO members. The rest is up to Ukraine to figure out.
And for the case of Russia, why would you put invade in quotation marks?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
15. Makes sense,
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:34 PM
Feb 2022

but Putin would lose his shit if Nato members actively resupplied Ukraine forces in Ukraine.
Although not as far away as I initially thought, a convoy from the Polish border to Kyiv would still have to travel a considerable distance.

Cognitive_Resonance

(1,546 posts)
18. I'm all for this, but realize the Russians may take action against the weapons flow. They have many
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:07 PM
Feb 2022

options including missile strikes, drones, etc. It could go there pretty quickly.

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