Does Anyone Know If Putin Just Lost His Plan B? He Must Have Had A Plan B Right? Right?

[DanieRains]

You know, like gas for tanks and stuff?

What if?

Maybe?

He was sure he could roll half his tanks to Kyiv, and Ukraine would just surrender in fear.

That was plan A.

Plan B?

[WarGamer]

1. News reports the bulk of his forces still 20km outside of Kiev.

[orwell]

2. Waiting for the guys...

...with the gas cans?

[uponit7771]

5. Parked far enough for MRLS's to work, Putler is going to Fallujah the joint

[Happy Hoosier]

9. we'll see how that works out.

Kyiv is not Fallujah and he risks more with each passing day.

It's now early morning in Ukraine, and after a night of reported heavy bombardment and more attacks, he has yet to take control of a single major population center. He's lost a lot of armored vehicles, and taken pretty heavy casualties.

Shifting to a siege strategy might make sense here, but the rumors are he is mandating taking teh cities fast, which would be sending his own troops into a meat grinder, and he'll end of up killing a whole lot of civilians.

I wonder if at some point this is just politically unviable for him.

[uponit7771]

13. +1, Just read Georgia and Crimea were less than 2 week events. This is going to go on WAY past

... two weeks and to "Grozny" (way worse than Fallujah) would bring in more forces against him

Even after Grozny was an ass ache to the Russian army.

[electric_blue68]

11. I saw the video on those. Omg Terrifying!

[jmowreader]

12. I am skeptical...

I think he wants to take Ukraine intact. If he does, he won't pull out his heavy artillery assets.

Also consider: Putin's cover story is he's trying to denazify the Ukraine. Firing BM-21 rockets would screw that up in short order.

Now...if the Ukrainians start using THEIR heavy artillery - they've got everything from 122mm towed to 203mm self-propelled, plus three different MRL systems - Putin may call artillery to retaliate. But as long as the Ukrainians are sticking with small weapons like rifles, Molotov cocktails and telling the Russians to go fuck themselves, the Russians will probably keep their powder dry.

[Happy Hoosier]

14. Ukraine needs to avoid an artillery duel.

They would lose that. Any use of Arty has to be of the shoot-n-scoot variety and for very specific tactical reasons. Ukraine is better off, IMO, sticking to small unit tactics and employing asymmetrical warfare techniques. In this case, a Squad of 10 people with a few ATGMs and MANPADS is going to be more effective than a battery of howitzers.

[Texaswitchy]

3. The plan might have been to use Ukraine's fuel when they took over the country.

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The fear thing.

[uponit7771]

6. They had fuel trucks but left them naked and UA forces blew them up. The Russian spokes person

... said Russia "paused" for negotiations ... my ass, they "paused" because their logistics suck

[Texaswitchy]

8. Didn't plan ahead.

That long supply line.

Glad the trucks got blown up.

So sure of themselves.

[abqtommy]

4. As a historical precedent, Rommel's tanks ran out of fuel just 15 miles from Alexandria.

This was at El Alamein's British victory that ended Hitler's dream of occupying North
Africa during WW2. Some people learn from history and some people are doomed to
repeat it.

[WarGamer]

7. And at the Battle of the Bulge...

Kampfgruppe Peiper ran out of fuel in Belgium... stopped short of Antwerp

[Mr.Bill]

10. I think Plan A was Trump gets elected to a second term,

pulls the US out of NATO and hands Ukraine to Putin. What's going on now is Plan B, and it's not going well.