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Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:22 AM

Republicans and even Fox are flipping,

We can't allow them to backtrack. It is extremely unpopular right now to be pro-Putin, pro-Russia and that is the only reason we are seeing GQP politicians saying bad things about Putin and Russia.

I have a solution to end their hypocrisy;

What do you think about Speaker Pelosi writing up a resolution, not only condemning Putin and the Russian invasion, but condemning Trump's praise of Putin. Put the resolution up for a vote on the House floor, force Republicans to publicly denounce Trump.

Anyone have the Speaker's phone number so I can suggest this?

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Reply Republicans and even Fox are flipping, (Original post)
gab13by13 Feb 2022 OP
SheltieLover Feb 2022 #1
soldierant Feb 2022 #93
mucifer Feb 2022 #2
underpants Feb 2022 #3
greymattermom Feb 2022 #12
Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2022 #17
oldsoftie Feb 2022 #25
IronLionZion Feb 2022 #24
Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2022 #30
tavernier Feb 2022 #59
TheRealNorth Feb 2022 #71
bottomofthehill Feb 2022 #78
True Blue American Feb 2022 #58
soldierant Feb 2022 #92
True Blue American Mar 2022 #101
soldierant Mar 2022 #107
True Blue American Mar 2022 #108
soldierant Mar 2022 #110
True Blue American Mar 2022 #112
Samrob Mar 2022 #106
Skittles Mar 2022 #111
OLDMDDEM Feb 2022 #4
secondwind Feb 2022 #5
OLDMDDEM Feb 2022 #8
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #9
OLDMDDEM Feb 2022 #10
oldsoftie Feb 2022 #27
wnylib Feb 2022 #67
oldsoftie Feb 2022 #84
KS Toronado Feb 2022 #56
OLDMDDEM Feb 2022 #57
Justice matters. Feb 2022 #94
doc03 Feb 2022 #6
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #11
KPN Feb 2022 #76
onetexan Mar 2022 #99
niyad Feb 2022 #7
Cozmo Feb 2022 #55
niyad Feb 2022 #70
Cozmo Feb 2022 #79
niyad Feb 2022 #81
wnylib Feb 2022 #72
OnDoutside Feb 2022 #13
kentuck Feb 2022 #14
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #15
kentuck Feb 2022 #16
empedocles Feb 2022 #20
Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #32
True Blue American Feb 2022 #60
wnylib Feb 2022 #73
csziggy Feb 2022 #18
bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #19
Emile Feb 2022 #21
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #22
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #74
boyedav1969 Feb 2022 #23
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #34
quakerboy Mar 2022 #100
multigraincracker Feb 2022 #26
oldsoftie Feb 2022 #28
wishstar Feb 2022 #31
oldsoftie Feb 2022 #85
MissMillie Feb 2022 #29
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #36
MissMillie Feb 2022 #43
SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #33
KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2022 #35
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #39
uponit7771 Feb 2022 #37
PufPuf23 Feb 2022 #38
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #40
llashram Feb 2022 #41
DLCWIdem Feb 2022 #42
hadEnuf Feb 2022 #44
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #45
randr Feb 2022 #46
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #75
randr Feb 2022 #83
Sapient Donkey Feb 2022 #86
Paladin Feb 2022 #47
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #48
jaxexpat Feb 2022 #49
Beakybird Feb 2022 #50
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #53
Hortensis Feb 2022 #80
renate Feb 2022 #89
L. Coyote Feb 2022 #51
BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #52
calimary Feb 2022 #54
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #77
calimary Feb 2022 #82
BlueWavePsych Feb 2022 #61
Vogon_Glory Feb 2022 #62
L. Coyote Feb 2022 #63
NCjack Feb 2022 #64
patphil Feb 2022 #65
LogicFirst Feb 2022 #66
BlueWavePsych Feb 2022 #68
Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #69
Sapient Donkey Feb 2022 #87
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lame54 Feb 2022 #88
Josiesdad Feb 2022 #90
LaMouffette Feb 2022 #91
YoshidaYui Feb 2022 #95
orangecrush Mar 2022 #97
BobTheSubgenius Mar 2022 #98
spanone Mar 2022 #102
ecstatic Mar 2022 #103
YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #104
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DemocraticPatriot Mar 2022 #109

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:24 AM

1. Excellent idea!

Sorry, I don't have phone #.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:50 PM

93. There is a contact form at www.speaker.gov

also she is on Twitter as @SpeakerPelosi

Both would go to her staff, but then, s would a phone call. And I'd have confidence in her staff.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:25 AM

2. The fox viewers will never "remember" trump and his cronies were pro putin

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:26 AM

3. Horrible miscalculation

White people suffering on TV. Not good for their audience. Throw in the old people who grew up hating Russia. I’m working on a post about this.

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Response to underpants (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:36 AM

12. Add Miami Cubans

It's easy to compare Putin to Castro.

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:44 AM

17. In what way precisely,... cause that's a head scratcher.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:54 AM

25. Well, they're both murderous dictators who repress their people.

And Castro did his fair share of sending troops into other countries.

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:53 AM

24. For authoritarian rulers, you could say the same about Trump

But the Cuban-Americans supported Trump who openly supported Putin

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:00 AM

30. Good point...the Castro/Putin comparison fails on so many fronts, hard to know where to begin.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:24 AM

59. But the communism comparison doesn't.

Already I’m hearing anger at Putin from my Cuban friends and neighbors, and that’s a first.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #59)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:53 AM

71. Which is funny

Because Putin is more like Batista or Pinochet then Castro.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #59)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:21 PM

78. Maybe because Cuba is still a Russian client state on some levels

And is one of the nations that has sided with Russia at least rhetorically in its invasion of Ukraine

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:23 AM

58. I do say the same about Trump.

He tried a coup to stay in office, failed badly.

Putin thought he would win his war quickly. Both were wrong. Romney calling Putin a small, evil, ferret eyed man. Trump is a bloated, lying evil man.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #58)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:45 PM

92. Terribly unfair to ferrets.

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Response to soldierant (Reply #92)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 08:25 AM

101. I would call him beady eyed!:)

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #101)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 09:44 PM

107. It isn't the shape - it's that his eyes have no soul behind them.

Ferrets' eyes, even though somewhat beady, have sould behind them Heck, actual goass beads have souls benind them compared to Putin.

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Response to soldierant (Reply #107)

Wed Mar 2, 2022, 12:57 AM

108. That was my thought.

Beady eyes, soul less. Nothing there. The eyes are the soul of the body.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #108)

Wed Mar 2, 2022, 02:25 AM

110. I think of them as being small, and also (probably peculiar to me)

as having no whites.

The dictionary also says "small" and adds "glittering," and then seperately as a second meaning says "filled with malice." But there are probablly many variants in actual usage.

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Response to soldierant (Reply #110)

Wed Mar 2, 2022, 05:07 AM

112. Good description!

Thus soul less!

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 10:06 AM

106. Sorry...no comparison. nt

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Response to underpants (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 2, 2022, 02:38 AM

111. I hear you underpants

knowing that a good portion of Faux News viewers are my age and older, I cannot see how they could easily flip from despising Russia to cheering for / excusing them.....no I cannot

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:26 AM

4. I agree

The president needs to speak about Ukraine at the SOTUS and ask everyone to stand that supports Ukraine.

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Response to OLDMDDEM (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:27 AM

5. Excellent idea!!


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Response to secondwind (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:29 AM

8. Thank you

It will show who is for, or against, Russia. I thought of it about 2:00 this morning. I hope he does it.

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Response to OLDMDDEM (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:29 AM

9. But Trump is still their leader,

if Republicans are sincere about denouncing Putin and Russia then they need to denounce their leader's praise of Putin.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:30 AM

10. I agree

Will they. This is a way to find out.

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Response to OLDMDDEM (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:55 AM

27. I'm sure he will. And the camera will show Greene sitting while everyone else stands

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:43 AM

67. Will Moscow Mitch stand?

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Response to wnylib (Reply #67)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 03:35 PM

84. Id give 10x odds that compared to HER, yes he will!

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Response to OLDMDDEM (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:18 AM

56. I like your idea but think it might backfire

If I was in a huge crowd (like what's going to be there) and was asked to stand in support of anything
and noticed everyone but me was standing, I'd get up too as not to look like the idiot. Getting these
Russian/Putler lovers to stand up would erase what's being said about them, plus they would call it
fake Liberal news.

Let's give 'em more rope to hang themselves.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:23 AM

57. Good point

I emailed the President this morning asking him to do that. We'll see.

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Response to OLDMDDEM (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:54 PM

94. Great idea (AND for Voting Rights too)

Without the Voting Rights Act passed & signed to save democracy here, we're effed.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:28 AM

6. I think President Biden should call the Republicans out by name tomorrow night.

Especially that f--g moron and others that want to invade Canada or support white supremacy.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:30 AM

11. I'm going after their leader, Trump.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:12 PM

76. "Cut off the head"

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Response to doc03 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:57 AM

99. Oh i hope Biden does call the treasonous bastards out

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:28 AM

7. 202-225-4965

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Response to niyad (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:16 AM

55. Good to have, Niyad. Thanks!

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Response to Cozmo (Reply #55)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:47 AM

70. You are most welcome. I love talking with her staff, both in D.C. and SF.

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Response to niyad (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:22 PM

79. I've never had the pleasure although I lived in SF for a long time

I always read your posts and they convey you to be a thoughtful person and lover of animals. I'm feeling something positive in the air lately since this latest and tragic conflict abroad. How about you?

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Response to Cozmo (Reply #79)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:37 PM

81. That is so very kind of you! I am indeed a lover of animals. I think that you are

correct, there is indeed something positive, at least for the moment. People are coming together in recognition of our common humanity. Will it last? One lives in hope.

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Response to niyad (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:56 AM

72. Is that # for Biden or Pelosi?

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:36 AM

13. Really good idea

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:40 AM

14. FOX viewers must have whiplash this morning?

Watching their favorite "truthtellers" do an about-face so quickly?

Where is their wanna-be Putin? Does he still think Putin is a "genius"?

Aren't they really nothing more than two peas in a pod?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:41 AM

15. At least Mitt Romney made headlines

when he said that praise of Putin was "almost" traitorous. Speaker Pelosi should build on that by doing a resolution, it could actually divide Republicans.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:44 AM

16. Nancy may be attempting to calm the waters?

And does not want to say or do anything that will further divide the nation at this time?

Although I think your idea has a great deal of merit.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:47 AM

20. I trust the Speaker. She is wise.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:05 AM

32. Romney should have dropped the word "almost."

Supporting the leader of a nation that is our enemy and with whom we are at war—not militarily but on other fronts like Putin’s cyber attacks and our sanctions against him and Russia—is treasonous. We need a new definition of war. In the past, it always involved physical attacks, but cyber attacks have gotten worse and they can cause damage just as much as a bomb, as the attack of Colonial Pipeline demonstrated by putting it out of commission for several days.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:26 AM

60. Those clips, along with

His Putin, small, evil, ferret eyed man played over and over.

I listened to Fox yesterday. They back Ukraine. Probably had whiplash from the sudden turn!

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #60)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:57 AM

73. There are so many clips

of Trump and Putin. They should be shown everywhere, all the time now.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:45 AM

18. Of course they are flipping - there is no Russian money going into their pockets

As long as there are sanctions, there will be no more Russian money going into their pockets. They want this over with fast. They don't really care if Putin stays in power. Some other Russian oligarch will take his place.

As for asking Speaker Pelosi to condemn Trump I don't know if that would work.

To contact her, start here: 202-224-3121. That is the number for the House of representatives. The contact form on her own website is for her constituents only - https://www.speaker.gov/contact

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:46 AM

19. Their hard reality melting and their minds destabilized, now is the time to reach Fox viewers

Boots on the ground, engage with the fiercest of all weapons, truth and logic. March!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:48 AM

21. +1 I hope Nancy does that!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:52 AM

22. Remember also,

that Trump just won the straw poll at CPAC. He is the leading GQP presidential candidate for 2024. The American voters need to know if Republicans are going to condemn Trump's praise of Putin. Trump did not condemn Putin, Trump condemned the invasion.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:02 PM

74. Did you notice that pence wasn't on there?

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:53 AM

23. Either way...

...we hang Trump/Putin around their necks this fall and again in 2024.

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Response to boyedav1969 (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:08 AM

34. I guarantee you that Republicans

will try to blame president Biden for mishandling the Russian invasion. The opposite is the truth. President Biden was the leader in keeping NATO and our coalition together. President Biden convinced Germany to abandon the gas pipeline, convinced Germany to do SWIFT. Now Germany is one of the leading countries combatting Putin.

Finland is getting ready to vote to join NATO and Sweden may be next. President Biden repaired all of the damage that Trump did to NATO and to our allies, but Republicans are going to say that Trump would have done a better job.

We need to get them on record now, condemning Trump's praise of Putin.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 06:42 AM

100. Worth pointing out

It's their purposeful sabotage of progress that armed putins army.

Literally it's built on oil money.

And the hesitation of Europe to pre arm Ukraine was built on their dependence on Russian oil.

If they hadn't ripped down the solar panels and fought against efficiency at every step.. we wouldn't have had to pay for Russian oil. We'd have extra domestic oil to cover any allies in need.

If trump hadn't pointlessly blown up our tenuous relationship with iran, we might have access to their oil by now.


If republicans weren't so set on punishing Venezuela for not being run by the right wing, we would probably have access to their oil.


Instead, because or rw ideology, we've spent the past few decades paying for putins army.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:55 AM

26. Picture Cher posted,,make a nice billboard.


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E758010098719399937%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aol.com%2Farticle%2F2016%2F07%2F26%2Fcher-posts-disturbing-photo-of-donald-trump-with-vladimir-putin%2F21439592%2F

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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:57 AM

28. "just make me list"? What's that refer too?

I like the one of Putin with trump on his lap as a crying baby.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:03 AM

31. List of things P wanted T to do when T was in office

such as lift sanctions, drop out of Nato, agree with Putin that Russia didn't interfere with 2016 elections- at one point Trump even seemed willing to extradite Michael McFaul, our former Russian ambassador and Putin foe, to Russia over false accusations from Putin.

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Response to wishstar (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 03:39 PM

85. I should've figured it out. thank you!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:00 AM

29. Sorry to say, but I don't like it.

I think it elevates TFG.

I mean, is her resolution going to condemn ALL private citizens on this issue?

I understand the impulse but singling him out has implications, IMHO. The Speaker of the House should embrace the idea that she has more important things to worry about.

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:13 AM

36. Trump is not your average private citizen.

He just won the CPAC straw poll which means he is the leading GQP presidential candidate in 2024. Trump is a former president who inserted himself into the Ukraine invasion. Trump took the side of our enemy, even Mitt Romney called his praise of Putin almost treason.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:28 AM

43. and he never will be if

The Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States of America gives him the credence of singling him out.

I said I understand the impulse. I just don't like the symbolism.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:06 AM

33. Great idea!

Hopefully, someone in Pelosi's district will send this suggestion to her.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:10 AM

35. Speaker Pelosi's WEB sites....

Her Congressional seat office: https://pelosi.house.gov/

Speaker's Office: https://www.speaker.gov/

See "Contact" pages on above web sites.

KY

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:20 AM

39. Thank you, I emailed her.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:15 AM

37. Good idea !!!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:15 AM

38. That is a great idea, Pelosi introducing a resolution condemning Putin and

Trump's praise of Putin.

Hope the idea gets communicated and Pelosi et al run with it ASAP.

Impressive reactions so far by Biden et al to the Ukraine criminal crisis.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:22 AM

40. President Biden has done a fantastic job,

but I guarantee that the GQP will try to blame him for the invasion. If Republicans are sincere in condemning Putin they can show it by voting on the House floor.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:24 AM

41. the electronic media

can be played over and over again. Fox and its pundits, especially Comrade Carlson, will not be able to spin their lies. They are damned for eternity. I wonder how they will react when Putin and trump attack, literally, the U.S.?

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:25 AM

42. We should be making commercials with the abrupt switch before / after

Lincoln Project will hopefully work on it.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:28 AM

44. Trump is a pro-Putin, pro Russian sympathizer who tried and is still trying to overthrow

the US government and a fair presidential election. He should be labeled as such without question.

No more revisionist history or GQP amnesia. That's what he and his followers are: a foreign and domestic danger to American democracy.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:29 AM

45. Maybe other DUers here

could call or email the Speaker's office with the suggestion to condemn Putin, the invasion, and Trump's praise of Putin.

It is easy to email her, or call her. I think it would help if more people contacted her.

Hey, she is the best Speaker ever, if this is a dumb idea she will act accordingly.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:44 AM

46. I hope Biden takes the opportunity to call them out at the SOTU

He should call for all who support to stand and those who will not stand should be ushered out the door.

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Response to randr (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:05 PM

75. I think the opposite. I would recommend they stick with

Only the situation in the Ukraine. If you build that up only everyone knows Trump is not on that bandwagon.

The last thing we want to do is alienate anyone where there is a possibility they may turn on him.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:49 PM

83. We are already the majority

I have no sense of responsibility to help the asshole out of their own dilemma.
Fuck em, show the world who they are and what we think of them.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 04:12 PM

86. I agree with your assessment.

Let Biden be a voice that attempts to unite. Let others point out the treasonous and hypocritical behavior of many republican on this matter.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:45 AM

47. Sounds good. Hope it happens. (nt)

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:47 AM

48. Going to have to call out Belarus also,

time to sanction them.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:52 AM

49. Jeopardizing their campaign finances and the .....

certainty of their base's vote all in one fell swoop. Genius........and so sneaky, too. Where do I sign?

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:53 AM

50. I thought about it, and no.

Don't score political points as long as the Republicans are saying and doing the right thing on this issue. Otherwise, they might rebel or do sneaky stuff.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:03 AM

53. They will turn in a heartbeat,

and I guarantee you will hear them say things like, president Biden did a terrible job in Ukraine. Trump would have stopped the invasion.

I guarantee they will flip again in 2024 and renew their fealty to Trump. Get them on record now while the invasion is going on.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:26 PM

80. Agree. When millions of viewers agree with us on what's right,

criticism and rejection are the wrong response.

Eyes on the prize: Our nation.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 04:27 PM

89. I agree

Let the midterm commercials do the naming and shaming. They would totally lose their effect if the GOP can point to an official change in their position.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:56 AM

51. That moment when you suddenly realize

the nukes are aimed at YOU.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:58 AM

52. You don't need the Speaker to do it - any rep (whether House or Senate) can do it

and get co-sponsors, and move it through the process.

Before they went on their break last week, they had been working on sanctions packages, so since a lot has happened since that time, be prepared for all the GOP amnesia and other maneuvering ahead of the SOTU tomorrow (3/1/22).

Congress eyes next steps after Biden announces Russia sanctions
Democrats and Republicans vow to pass punishing sanctions package when lawmakers return to Washington next week.

Feb. 22, 2022, 2:15 PM EST / Updated Feb. 22, 2022, 7:25 PM EST
By Scott Wong

WASHINGTON — Congressional Democrats and Republicans are eyeing their next steps after President Joe Biden imposed new sanctions Tuesday in response to Russian President Vladimir Putin ordering troops into two breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine. House Intelligence Committee members said they were working on bipartisan legislation requiring a plan for the U.S. to provide support for pro-Ukraine independence fighters.

And a bipartisan group of senators began working on an emergency spending bill to help NATO and Ukraine combat Russian aggression. The moment for bipartisanship may be short — giving lawmakers only days or weeks to formulate a legislative response before retreating into their partisan corners and lobbing criticism instead of cooperation during a midterm election year.

Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Menendez, D-N.J., said if Russia continues its incursion deeper into Ukraine, the U.S. and its allies should cut off Russia from SWIFT, the secure global financial messaging system used by banks worldwide. “Well, that is what I consider among the mother of all sanctions,” Menendez said Tuesday during an appearance on MSNBC’s “Hallie Jackson Reports.”

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., who serves on the Intelligence and Finance committees, called the sanctions announced Tuesday “too little, too late,” while Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., dismissed the Biden effort as "woefully inadequate." The House GOP leadership team, led by Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California, issued a joint statement accusing Biden of choosing “appeasement” over “strong action" against Putin.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/biden-faces-bipartisan-calls-punishing-russian-sanctions-rcna17219


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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:04 AM

54. EXCELLENT idea.

There’s instability in the trumPutin axis right now. That needs to be EXPLOITED. And RIGHT NOW.

Ukraine presents a PERFECT opportunity to diminish them both. Glue them together in the public mindset. Encourage all doubts, shaky loyalties, second thoughts about taking THAT side; and reinforce the perception that trump is a bad guy CUZ HE’S SIDING WITH THE BAD GUY. Guilt by his close association.

There have already been reports about how effective the US-led “information war” online, on social media has been against the Russians. This is FREAKIN’ FANTASTIC news!!!!!

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Response to calimary (Reply #54)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:14 PM

77. Hello again,

yes, you explained what I am trying to say. I just would like to force Republicans to be on the record condemning Trump's praise of Putin. Maybe it's a bridge too far. I did email Speaker Pelosi, she will know what's best.

It was only a few days ago that Trump and Republicans and Fox were singing Putin's praises. Now that Putin has become toxic they act like they never said it. The Republican party is anti-democracy and that is why they were praising Putin. It can't be done at the SOTU, that is supposed to be more positive.

I still think that Speaker Pelosi could word a resolution, diplomatically, to force Republicans to condemn Trump's praise of Putin.

They need to be on the record because come 2024 they are going to blame president Biden for the invasion and claim that Trump could have prevented it.

It is wonderful that almost the entire world has condemned Putin. Finland is taking a vote to join NATO and hopefully other countries will do the same, and Trump wanted to disband NATO.

I'm going to buy a strainer, a Polish lady explained to me the secret to making crispy potato pancakes, drain off the water for 5 minutes from the batter. Disclaimer, I'm half Polish, I should have known that. I am at my desired weight but I soon won't be. You have to take time to get away, I wake up every morning hoping that Ukraine is holding on.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #77)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:43 PM

82. If I were still working, that'd be one of my questions to ANY Republican.

I’d hope news executives start issuing directives toward that end.

There’s gonna be LOTS of coverage all over everywhere, as newsfolk scrounge for second-day leads, third-day leads, fresh angles, local react - any local Russian or Ukrainian officials or church leaders or community leaders or professors and/or foreign policy experts at the local college or university…. Lots of ways to enlarge and further the story.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:27 AM

61. Hmmm ...

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:31 AM

62. We shouldn't let them backtrack

We shouldn’t let the Republicans white out their love affair with Vladimir Putin. We should bring it up again and again and again.

For those well-meaning souls naively setting up their fellow Democrats for electoral defeats this year and in 2024, I would first point out that some of us want the Good Guys to win, not lose. Second, I would point out that a lot of voters are former Cold Warriors, not just in the Democratic camp, but also in Club Pachyderm, too. The Republicans got a lot of political mileage out of tying mainstream Democrats to the fringe elements in the anti-Vietnam War movement who waved Viet Congress flags at peace marches. We Democrats lost voters because of those idiots for decades (even though many of those protesters weren’t even Democrats) and I fail to see why we should ignore right-wing Republicans chatting up and posing with Putin.

If we have video and images of R’s posing with Putin, we should use it.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:37 AM

63. Savvy genius

Savvy genius: A leader who invades a peaceful democracy and destroys his own economy.

Stable genius: An idiot who calls a leader who invades a peaceful democracy and destroys his own economy a "savvy genius."

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:40 AM

64. In TV interviews, reporters should ask our leading fascists WHY they

have flipped from supporting PUTIN.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:40 AM

65. Zelensky is such an inspirational figure.

People the world over are rooting for him to hold off Putin's army.
Even NATO has had to respond to his popularity; finally sending aid.
I still think they should vote Ukraine into NATO and make their support more direct and overt.
Putin is paying the price for his arrogance. He's in a position of weakness and I don't think the Russian Army will support the war much longer...too many loses of soldiers and equipment.
It could become a Phyrric Victory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory

In any event, even if Putin defeated Ukraine, he would have a very difficult time holding it.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:41 AM

66. BUT - republicans are pro Putin. They would like Trump to run our country just as

Putin runs his.

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Response to LogicFirst (Reply #66)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:45 AM

68. GOP (Good Ol' Putin)

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:45 AM

69. Free Republic is now 2-1 Russian trolls.

They're not bothering to hide it anymore. Jimbo Robinson must not care as long as they donate.

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Response to Wingus Dingus (Reply #69)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 04:18 PM

87. Are they actual Russian trolls, though?

I like punishing myself so I will go there to see what kind of weird takes they have. Often times the most ridiculous and insane posts are coming from people who have had their accounts for ten or even twenty years. Unless their accounts were hijacked, I don't think those are trolls. I've tried creating accounts there to bring some diversity to their arguments, but I never last long even when I do my whole meeting them half-way thing. I think that might make me even more of a target because of the cognitive dissonance it forces on them.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #87)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:15 PM

96. I've been reading them for many years as well. A lot of the old-time FR posters

who used to be very genuinely pro-USA, pro-military, pro-Iraq invasion/War on Terror seem to have melted away for the most part. What's left seem to be the Trumpy-bear die-hards, the Qanon types (always pushing the globalist/deep state/Soros conspiracy shit), and some outright English-as-a-second-language Russian trolls.

The Trump-Humpers and Qanons are not necessarily trolls, many simply love Putin because Trump and Putin are BFF's, and they're experiencing a lot of traumatic cognitive dissonance right now. These are the merely-stupids.

The professional Putinists are smart but pretty easy to spot, even among long-termers. They use the same argument tactics (whataboutisms, "some say", "I heard" ), the same constant redirection to focus on the southern border or BLM or truck convoys instead of Ukraine, the same insistence that America is a shitty weak country but Russia is mighty and a haven for Christians, and so forth. I don't think Russian/foreign internet trolls and propagandists are a recent thing on the internet, either. Probably been going on more like 15 years or so.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 04:25 PM

88. Are they really flipping or just using it to...

Bash the left even more

They praise Zelensky to point out how "weak" Biden is

They compare the breach of Ukranian borders to immigrants crossing our southern border

Russian tyranny is as bad as Canadian tyranny

No empathy just opportunism

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 04:32 PM

90. Actually, I think the "show of hands" is going to be much sooner; televised and highly rated.

My guess is that Biden just MIGHT mention Ukraine tonight as he gives his first state of the union. My bet is that he will phrase his first Ukraine applause line in such a way that it burns the Trump wing of the opposition. My guess is that Biden will take this very public moment to put a wedge between the Republicans in the loyal opposition and the Trump traitor wing. Their choices will be stand up or sit... they can't abstain.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:12 PM

91. I wish tonight Biden would show a video montage of the Trumps and Republicans cozying up to Putin,

from Eric's "We get all our money from Russia now!" to the photo of Michael Flynn and Jill Stein sitting at a table with Putin during a benefit in Moscow, to Manafort and Russian operative Kilemnic, to Trump looking like a meek schoolboy next to Putin at Helsinki, to Trump spouting pro-Russian propaganda at his rallies, to images of his "I need you to do me a favor" phone conversation with Zelensky . . .

Joe won't do anything like that of course. He's too classy. But Lincoln Project, if you're listening . . . !

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:10 PM

95. If people are standing with Putin

They are not true Americans. They are traitors.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:22 AM

97. Most excellent!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:33 AM

98. I think this is a great idea!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 09:00 AM

102. ...K&R...

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 09:04 AM

103. They are really divided right now

I've snooped on a couple of their forums and some of them appear to have lost ALL respect for tfg and are promising to vote third party in 2024 if he's the nominee. I assume that if they were trolls, they would have been banned immediately, but the comments are being left to stand. To me, that suggests that there are a lot of MAGAsses who feel the same way but aren't brave enough to say it yet.

Once a person sees the light and sees tfg for who he truly is, there's no going back. They'll start to see tfg the same way we do: a selfish, incompetent, incredibly ignorant and evil clown-criminal with a severe personality disorder.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 09:08 AM

104. Do you know how many

White supremacists support
Russia over the United States? Too many traitors too count. So much for the Commie scare of the 1950's, these assholes are embracing communism and Russia. They love Putin and think he should be running the United States. Assholes..

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 09:27 AM

105. RePutincans and their MAGAT King can never go back.

They can lie at squirm and whine all they want, but at the end of the day, the rest of the world knows they adore Putin, the "savvy genius" idol of the MAGAT King.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2022, 12:58 AM

109. Sounds good to me.

NO "voice vote", let the GQP reps vote on the record...

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