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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDisturbing Videos Show Indian Students Fleeing Ukraine Brutally Beaten By Forces At Borders
What the hell?
"A video allegedly shot by a student shows Indians sitting on a road, reportedly at the Ukraine-Poland border. In the video, border forces are seen kicking and harassing Indian students. Some posts also suggest that African students were also beaten and kicked by the forces at national borders."
"Many students Ukraine-Poland border have sent out videos alleging that Ukrainian soldiers and police are forcing them back into Ukraine from the border of Poland by firing in the air and attempting to drive their cars into the crowd. "
https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/indians-students-fleeing-ukraine-brutally-beaten-by-forces-at-borders-563156.html

Ferrets are Cool
(22,122 posts)
ck4829
(36,890 posts)Percy
(721 posts)I'm looking at BBC news now and see the same ...
Happy Hoosier
(8,882 posts)At least they CLAIM to be from India and Nigeria.
Putin is doing his best to activate his troll army.
Make no mistake, Eastern Europe suffers from some racism problems. But they will take isolated incidents and low them up into a wedge issue to try and delegitimize the UKR government and foment support for Putin.
DO NOT LET THEM DO IT.
KS Toronado
(21,014 posts)
Nothing there but their logo
Percy
(721 posts)I looked up the story and see the BBC is covering it too. I posted links a few posts down.
KS Toronado
(21,014 posts)their link gave a totally blank page with just a logo.
Duncanpup
(14,295 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)
milestogo
(20,281 posts)with no problems
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)We should be concerned but do not take at face value. Tik-Tok has lots of disinformation.
Percy
(721 posts)I looked for a more reputable source and found the BBC is covering the story too. There are links to the BBC article and BBC twitter I posted below for someone else who was doubting the story.
This is truly heartbraking. These are college students!
peggysue2
(11,750 posts)The Russians have been losing the messaging war, badly. What better way to start turning Western sentiment than showing images of racist violence against refugees and/or sparking division among our allies?
Color me suspicious. Because disinformation is something the Russians have proven themselves experts at; they know exactly what pressure points to push.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)The students should stay put, and not take up resources for victims of the conflict.
LisaL
(47,182 posts)and Ukraine is at war, I presume staying put is not the best option for them.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)India can work out a deal with Russia and let Russia take them in.
LisaL
(47,182 posts)ethnic Ukrainians? And how on Earth can you say students are not the victims of the conflict?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)They can accept whomever they want. Nationals of Russian allies in this conflict are bottom of the list, apparently. Oh well, sucks to be them.
LisaL
(47,182 posts)But that is neither here nor there.
TheProle
(3,311 posts)that might be a distinction without a difference to you, but they are not "siding with Russia."
uponit7771
(92,734 posts)TheProle
(3,311 posts)But it's no reason for Indian students to be abused or disallowed to evacuate.
malaise
(283,050 posts)23 Jamaicans had all sorts of racist crap thrown at them before they walked nine hours to Poland. They were trying to leave by bus or train There are racists fascists in Ukraine as well.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-refugees-racism-russia-invasion-b2024175.html
Scores of African migrants in Ukraine are being blocked from fleeing to safety as Russian attacks continue to devastate the country, those trying to make border crossings have told The Independent.
Black people living in the region say they have been left to languish, with some taking to Twitter in recent days to share accounts of abandonment.
WhiskeyGrinder
(24,683 posts)58Sunliner
(5,623 posts)They actively criticize Ukraine. I have no idea what is really happening. It looks like people are being dragged out of a position from sitting on the ground in the traffic area. You have no way of knowing where this is happening, if it wasn't staged, or who those people actually are. You should remove this post.
Percy
(721 posts)I'm all for finding the truth and facts in this dangerous situation. Treating college kids this way because they are Indian or from Africa is horrific and can not be condoned -- if that's what's going on.
The videos are from the scene and are horrific.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-60552271
Link to tweet
58Sunliner
(5,623 posts)All I see is a group of people who are upset. That's it. No abuse. For all I know they don't have visas or passports to enter wherever that train is going to. And the govt specifically said that women and children were prioritized. Not men 18-60. I saw a post where the Nigerian govt put out a notice asking it's citizens to use certain train stations only. Is it true? Let me just post it and then it will be.
Percy
(721 posts)In addition to describing the events, there are multiple videos, including the one where Indian students are being physically assaulted at the border, shots are fired, and the kids are screaming.
And another video piece with the Southeast Asia BBC producer discussing the situation.
What you do with the information is your choice, of course.
58Sunliner
(5,623 posts)I am ashamed that the BBC did not bother to prove the circumstances. Bad journalism. There is still no context. I have seen several videos of people trying to just cross into a foreign country without going through the border patrol. You know if I did that during war time I would expect to risk getting shot. And I am a white middle aged woman. I would not expect to be treated fairly if I went to a train station that was prioritized for women and children if I were a male 18-60. But again I have no context, just a lot of hyperbole.
jalan48
(14,848 posts)Brazilian players. I'm not going to post the articles but info can be found by searching the internet. Things aren't always as black and white as we want them to be.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)jalan48
(14,848 posts)support for right wing authoritarianism spreading all over the world.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Italy and probably Serbia have been the worst for football. Russia is a horror for racist supporters as well.
Baitball Blogger
(49,815 posts)lpbk2713
(43,204 posts)Proceed at your own risk.
Percy
(721 posts)Mistreating kids like this is a story that will reach deep. On top of it there were shots fired so the kids were terrified and traumatized. The memory will last a long time.
HipChick
(25,546 posts)Percy
(721 posts)It's truly appalling. I'm so sick of racist bs. It's infuriating and so disappointing.
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Brainfodder
(7,184 posts)Doubting it as distraction/propaganda angling BS any way.
But emails!!!!