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Javaman

(62,530 posts)
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:59 PM Feb 2022

do you think val the impaler will use Nukes in Ukraine?

I'm beginning to think he just might.

Why?

he's painted himself into a corner with this fucked up invasion.

the russian economy is tanking

the russian people are protesting

the whole world is basically against him

do you think he will go for broke?

I worry that he just might.

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do you think val the impaler will use Nukes in Ukraine? (Original Post) Javaman Feb 2022 OP
If he does, he's instantly dead. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #1
I'm sure he'd wait till he was secure in his nuclear KPN Feb 2022 #7
Fair point. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #8
How so? LisaL Feb 2022 #10
Good question. nt BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #15
No dclarston13 Feb 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2022 #3
They'll be a coup if he tries. aeromanKC Feb 2022 #4
Not a chance SoonerPride Feb 2022 #5
Likely Jerry2144 Feb 2022 #6
There are plenty of damaging conventional weapons that Russia can use before having to resort PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #9
Do we think Hitler might invade Poland? C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #11
Tactical nukes yes. nt doc03 Feb 2022 #12
If there is a deal where Russia gets part of Ukraine to end the war marie999 Feb 2022 #18
I don't think so...mainly because I think he'll be removed from power very soon Buckeyeblue Feb 2022 #13
More likely he would use chemical weapons. They've been used before around the world. jalan48 Feb 2022 #14
He would irradiate the land he wants. Swede Feb 2022 #16
No, but we have to remain vigilant. Hoyt Feb 2022 #17
I doubt it. However, if he's actually off his nut, he could. MineralMan Feb 2022 #19
May not have to if they still hold Chernobyl. Lars39 Feb 2022 #20
Not really; I think he's using them as a threat. haele Feb 2022 #21

KPN

(15,645 posts)
7. I'm sure he'd wait till he was secure in his nuclear
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

bunker. In which case, I have to believe whoever he has to rely on to deploy nukes will decide “fuck that” because, well, they’d be instantly dead.

Response to Javaman (Original post)

Jerry2144

(2,101 posts)
6. Likely
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

There are people between him and the actual use. If he were to give the order, I am sure there are multiple people in the way of it getting executed. More likely would be that he gives the order and immediately gets taken out of the picture by their military or someone near him

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
18. If there is a deal where Russia gets part of Ukraine to end the war
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:26 PM
Feb 2022

and most sanctions are canceled, no problem. If the war continues and Russia can't win without them, yeah, he will probably use tactical nukes.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
13. I don't think so...mainly because I think he'll be removed from power very soon
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:11 PM
Feb 2022

If he was going to use them, I believe it would more likely be France, German, England and US targets.

But that would be his last ditch effort to either save himself or take everyone with him. But it's a group effort to send the nukes. He doesn't have a hidden button way down at the end of the table where he sits.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
19. I doubt it. However, if he's actually off his nut, he could.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:29 PM
Feb 2022

He might get some backlash from his Generals, though, and it's possible that they would take him out rather than follow that order, since it would mean that there would be retaliation from NATO nations.

It's a worry, though.

haele

(12,653 posts)
21. Not really; I think he's using them as a threat.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:42 PM
Feb 2022

Of course, he's obviously suffering from some sort of end of life or roid rage now, and doing some seriously stupid petty Mob Boss trying to hang onto a sinking empire sorts of shit, but I don't think he will be able to use the type of nukes most people are worried about. Mercenaries are his best weapon, so long as he can keep paying them. Does he still have dark web accounts that aren't frozen?
Maybe he can get some low level Major to fire off one or two truck launch short range small nuke, but if he has anything long or medium range that is either still operational or under the command of a high ranking general as stupidly, egotistically suicidal as Putin is now, I'd honestly be surprised.
It takes a lot of money, training, and maintenance to keep nuclear weapons functional. Especially older warheads and their systems

I doubt the liars and grifters who politicked their way to General would spend the money for that sort of thing once the Cold War was over and any subsequent nuclear armaments manufactured and placed in storage is pretty much useless to be used anytime soon without some seriously expensive maintenance. Like maybe in a year or so.
Especially since the FOR's military doctrine has pretty much been focused on small, strategic and guaranteed win conflicts over the past two/three decades.

Haele

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