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There is indeed a specific word Ukrainians are asking people to pronounce! This is what happens (Original Post) Swede Feb 2022 OP
ill help WarGamer Feb 2022 #1
Same as a bitch. LisaL Feb 2022 #3
I didn't want to say it... thought it was on the Du naughty list lol WarGamer Feb 2022 #4
DU has a naughty list? Swede Feb 2022 #5
the 4-5 "Alert Karens" who troll me daily would look for an excuse to alert. WarGamer Feb 2022 #6
. Iggo Feb 2022 #11
"Sukha" is dry. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #7
Well if you watch videos coming out of Ukraine they appear to be mostly swearing. LisaL Feb 2022 #8
since it's all in Cyrillic, the English phonetic spelling is pretty pointless, lol... WarGamer Feb 2022 #9
Yep. LisaL Feb 2022 #10
What is the proper pronunciation of the word "yupt"? FM123 Feb 2022 #13
Maybe the people who are eager to go to Ukraine and fight might think about LisaL Feb 2022 #2
It helps to have a US Passport though (if you're American) FakeNoose Feb 2022 #12
Russian speakers from other than Ukraine will have a distinctive accent. Swede Feb 2022 #14
Well I guess you will have to trust that they won't mistake your accent for that of a Russian. LisaL Feb 2022 #15
I don't speak Russian or Ukrainian. Swede Feb 2022 #18
Russian speakers will make obvious mistakes. Igel Feb 2022 #22
Interesting! Thanks for the explanation. nt crickets Feb 2022 #24
If you find a DU member who goes to fight, please Treefrog Feb 2022 #23
Try harder. canuckledragger Feb 2022 #16
Hold my lemonade while I pin this guy down...nt abqtommy Feb 2022 #17
That may be a vodka cooler? Swede Feb 2022 #19
Could be, but it's the guy on the ground who's gettin' cooled! nt abqtommy Feb 2022 #20
Shiboleth - a use of language regarded as distinctive of a particular group Xipe Totec Feb 2022 #21

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
7. "Sukha" is dry.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:24 PM
Feb 2022

"Suka" is the word you're looking for, although there are certainly regional variants and jocular mispronunciations. And it's more "yob" than "yupt," especially because it's often only the start of a long string. Swearing in Slavic languages should be its own minor within the study.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
13. What is the proper pronunciation of the word "yupt"?
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:56 PM
Feb 2022

I think I would like to learn to say that word.....

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
2. Maybe the people who are eager to go to Ukraine and fight might think about
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:19 PM
Feb 2022

this.
Looks like Ukrainians are rounding up people who they think have an accent. Fun times.
They are clearly in a very suspicious mood right now. And might not appreciate your efforts if you show up there to fight.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
12. It helps to have a US Passport though (if you're American)
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:48 PM
Feb 2022

I'm not sure how many Ukrainians can speak or understand English. The younger ones probably got some English in school, and the internet.

Swede

(33,233 posts)
14. Russian speakers from other than Ukraine will have a distinctive accent.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:02 PM
Feb 2022

They are looking for Russians.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
15. Well I guess you will have to trust that they won't mistake your accent for that of a Russian.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:04 PM
Feb 2022

Good luck.

Swede

(33,233 posts)
18. I don't speak Russian or Ukrainian.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:50 PM
Feb 2022

If I did I would have a Canadian accent. Ukrainians are looking for Russian speakers with a Russian accent.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
22. Russian speakers will make obvious mistakes.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:13 PM
Feb 2022

If they're not locals.

They'll do stupid things like pronounce "Kyiv" "Keef." That first vowel ... so not Russian.

There are also differences in aspiration and palatalization. Then the whole lenited / g / as a pharyngeal that DU's interface doesn't like.

There are differences in voicing sandhi.

Some things are easy to get right. But others are completely unconscious and deep-seated in Russian speech patterns by age 3. Hard to recognize them, much less undo them.

Curious back in the '90s, I dug up a bunch of the scholarly writings on the differences. A lot of the distinctions are subtle, exactly where in vowel space you put Ukrainian / y / and how it contrasts with / i / in Russian and Ukrainian.

I can read a fair bit of Ukrainian, but I open my mouth to read it and Ukrainian speakers want to know if I'm speaking Bulgarian. Or Serbian. They're too nice to suggest that it's Russian-botched Ukrainian overlaid with an American English accent.

As for mimicking a Ukrainian Russian accent? Just not even thinkable in my case.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
23. If you find a DU member who goes to fight, please
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:18 PM
Feb 2022

let us know.

I saw a person mention it on one thread, but I assume they changed their mind. Not that I blame them, but still.

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