Russian military convoy stretches over 17 miles north of Kiev.

[L. Coyote]

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[lindysalsagal]

1. That convoy's gotta be stopped. I certainly hope someone is planning something

they're not reporting.

[L. Coyote]

25. Perhaps the biggest risk-calculation/moral dilemma of the war so far.

At some point, expect bridges to be blown up in front of them, maybe the Teteriv river bridge on the PO2 just south of Ivankiv, 50.919, 29.9018.

Putin is betting the West will not directly intervene, obviously.

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[BannonsLiver]

40. Richard Engel is a fucking moron.

Setting aside his deranged views that would start WW3, the West has NOT sat by in silence during this invasion. Russia is a world pariah, their economy has been brought to its knees thanks to catastrophic sanctions and billions of munitions and now, combat aircraft, have been deployed to Ukraine.

[Thomas Hurt]

2. IEDs, drone strikes? have to see how it goes.

[Samrob]

3. Shouldn't they be sitting ducks for someone?

We carpet bombed retreating Iraqis in Desert Storm. Whatever happened to pre-emptive strikes? Why wouldn't Ukraine pick some of these tanks off using drones?

[maxsolomon]

5. who does what now?

does Ukraine have drones that can disable armored columns?

are you suggesting someone else do a pre-emptive strike?

[AntiFascist]

55. Turkey has given them more of their UAVs that have taken out tanks n/t

[Sgent]

12. Ukraine

should have plenty (1000's) of handheld Javilines and the Swiss version of the same, but I don't think they have any long range artillery or attack helicopters. Germany really, really fucked them on that.

They have the Turkish drones but those are only useful against lesser armored vehicles (transports, etc.), not against tanks.

This war could get up close and personal soon. If I were Ukraine I would want to engage close enough that air support and artillery wouldn't be useful to either side.

[EndlessWire]

16. I don't know if this is helpful

but a second country is sending another 2,000 anti tank weapons. That would make a total of 7,000 anti tank weapons.

[Aristus]

4. Seriously, get an A-10 Warthog in there and create a new Highway of Death.

[dalton99a]

11. +1. Or at least blow up the damn road to slow them down

[Brother Buzz]

14. Minimum, two teams of four working from opposite ends

One coming, one going, one spitting, one loading

[questionseverything]

15. If we don't do what we can from overhead

What good is being the most powerful military in the world?

[L. Coyote]

19. Let's not start a global nuclear war.

First of all, we have not declared war as required if we want to intervene.

[WarGamer]

23. Nope.

S400's on the Belarus and Russian borders with Ukraine...

range of 400km... and can track and kill anything from a helicopter to an F35.

Not going to happen.

[aeromanKC]

6. Put a bomb on that drone!!

[Etherealoc1]

7. Drones anyone?

The target is as clear as day.

[Lovie777]

8. They got enough oil? ....

food, water, necessary tools re cleaning bodies and bathroom stuff. I have read that many Russian soldiers are going hungry.

[Deuxcents]

9. Yes! Somethings gotta stop em..

I get anxious about reports like this as it’s the look of death to the innocents. One small man’s ego has got to be stopped soon..real soon.

[lame54]

10. Just have a cop pull the first one over...

They'll be stuck forever

[EndlessWire]

17. LOL! n/t

[Carlitos Brigante]

26. .

[cinematicdiversions]

13. I got an idea

[KS Toronado]

46. LOL

[Nevilledog]

18. I think the military would call that *opportunity*

[lpbk2713]

20. Takes up both lanes in some places.

That's a lot of vehicles and a lot of troops.

[L. Coyote]

21. We've been watching them approaching Kiev from the north.

I found this location yesterday in Google earth, 51.0068, 29.99, north of the Teteriv River approaching Ivankiv from the ENE:



Another image is 51.016, 30.0198, easy to spot building beside the road.



This location is 51.0169, 30.0237.



Finally, the fourth picture yesterday is between the others, at 51.0124, 30.007. The centerpoints of the four images span 3 km. Note some of the vehicles are off the road. They are resting it seems.

[L. Coyote]

42. More satellite photos, location further south now is 50.6202, 30.1883, at the Antonov airport.

Image in this Morning Joe video: '40-Mile Long' Russian Military Convoy Approaching Ukraine Capital

The correct description is stretched out over 40 miles. The 50.6202, 30.1883 position is the north end of the runway at the Antonov airport, where the world's largest plane was burned. The following image is nearby on the same T1011 highway at 50.6252, 30.1751.



Another satellite capture shows 50.879, 29.9955, to the NNW on the PO2 highway just south of Rudnya-Shpylivs'ka.

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[L. Coyote]

44. Another photo's location identified, on the PO2 highway at 50.8996, 29.9497.

This is south of Ivankiv five kilometers.

[WheelWalker]

22. A "target-rich environment" is the phrase that comes to mind.

[L. Coyote]

24. There is more in this long Twitter thread:

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[L. Coyote]

27. Ukrainian pilots have arrived in Poland to take delivery of used fighter jets

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[crickets]

30. EU jets - there they are! Thank you for posting this.

Though I wonder if they'll be able to use them on the convoy.

With the air corridors to Kyiv closed by Russian anti-aircraft weapons and fighter jets, U.S. and European powers have started pushing weapons into the country by road.

Sounds like *shh* a drone or two might be arriving soon.

President Joe Biden also ordered the release of up to $350 million worth of weapons from U.S. stocks to Ukraine on Friday. Speaking with reporters at the Pentagon Monday, a senior U.S. Defense Department official declined to go into detail about what will be included, but said “there will be capabilities in there to help them with both their ground defensive capabilities as well as airborne defensive capabilities.”

[Igel]

28. And an update ...

Not sure how the link works to the Guardian's "live blog".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/28/russia-ukraine-war-latest-news-update-conflict-belarus-putin-nuclear-deterrence-order-kyiv-russian-invasion-live-updates?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-621d69d08f08a5262b543d02#block-621d69d08f08a5262b543d02

Link seems a bit long.

Satellite images taken on Monday show a Russian military convoy north of Kyiv that stretches for about 40 miles (64 km) in an area north-west of Kyiv. It is substantially longer than the 17 miles (27 km) reported earlier in the day, according to the US company Maxar, Reuters reports.

Now, I can read this and think, "Oh, shit, it's *not* just 3 or 17 miles long." *Or* I can read it and think, "It's not bloody likely that they've tripled the number of vehicles. That means it's just the same vehicles spread out. Now, three abreast, it's hard for somebody to drive alongside and hit it with a molotov cocktail; three abreast, a javelin will hit the outside tank but not the other two. But if they're just spread out over 40 miles instead of 17 or 3 ... Why? What made them spread out? *Was* it too rich a targetting environment? Did something cause groups to *have* to spread out for safety? For refueling?"

In the end, dunno. One Russian turn of speech I like is the distinction between "I don't know" and "I can't know." The first allows for negligence. The other is redolent, civility put, of "How the hell am I supposed to know?" but without the irritation.

[L. Coyote]

34. The "40 miles" claim seems to be a translation error. Vehicles are stretched over long distance but

if they were all together it would be more like a four-mile-long army. Maybe intentional fog of war?

Another miscalculation, Russians expected frozen ground this time of year, but they can't just run across the fields without bogging down because the ground is no longer frozen.

They haven't moved much since yesterday. This photo is on the south edge of Ivanki, 50.9214, 29.8979 at the river crossing:

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[Poiuyt]

37. CNN is claiming a 40 mile convoy too

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-28-22/h_3049de313fb0ff65378d688c9ecdb97f

Dramatic satellite images released by Maxar Technologies on Monday evening showed a massive 40+ mile long convoy of Russian military vehicles snaking along roadways northwest of Kyiv.

It’s easy to trace where those hundreds of tanks, towed artillery, armored and logistical vehicles came from. Just follow the roads.

In Ukraine, northwest of Kyiv, all roads lead to Belarus. The roadway and bridge at Chernobyl — the town, not the failed nuclear reactor — ends in Belarus. Every other major road northwest of the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, ends in Belarus, which borders northern Ukraine.

[L. Coyote]

39. So is NPR and others, but I see no evidence this is so. We do have satellite images.

The images are taken over a course of several days as the convoy moved south. Yesterday they were at Prybirsk, now they are at Ivankiv, about 20 km of road in length. Some reports say there are now some near the Antonov airport north of Kyiv, 40 miles south of Ivankiv. But they are not all in all these places at once.

This got misinterpreted "stretched over at least 17 miles" I suspect. When they were all parked together it was 3.5 miles.

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[L. Coyote]

29. Why Vladimir Putin has already lost this war

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[L. Coyote]

31. Show Russians what is really happening in Ukraine

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[struggle4progress]

32. "We looking People's Republic of Donetsk and Lugansk to keep peace there!

But go first Kyiv and find map store so get map to Donetsk and Lugansk!"

[L. Coyote]

33. Precisely, this is a blatant invasion and one has to be concerned about genocide.

I would not want to be a Jewish comedian in Ukraine today.

[EX500rider]

35. Sounds like the US needs to send some cluster munitions to Ukraine

That's the correct use for them.

[L. Coyote]

36. This image is north of Ivankiv, at 50.9682, 29.9166, on the city bypass highway.

[L. Coyote]

38. Ukraine to receive 70 fighter jets

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[L. Coyote]

41. #Anonymous - Russian convoy heading to Kyiv has been tracked. xTrace

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ATW - xTrack data will be public super soon ..............

[MineralMan]

43. Looking closely at those photos, most of the vehicles appear

to be transport trucks. Probably full of supplies and maybe personnel. Not tanks. Not rocket launcher vehicles. It would probably better to disrupt the roadways they're traveling on than to attempt to destroy vehicles in most cases.

If you go to the Twitter thread and click on the photos on a desktop computer, you can see the vehicles clearly.

[L. Coyote]

45. Many Russian battle units have "surrendered without a fight." Fog of war?

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[L. Coyote]

47. An app to track the Russian convoy build-up north of Kyiv:

This is surrounding the airport apparently, not exactly 40 miles long!

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[DemocraticPatriot]

48. The major networks kept reporting tonight that it is "40 miles long",

which was already debunked on Twitter reporters at the scene, who said "3.5 miles long, but 40 miles from Kyiv"



Don't know what to believe. If the Russians keep shoving more units into the back of this traffic jam, who knows how many miles long it is, by now...


For those who keep saying "why don't the Ukranians attack it", 40 miles is pretty far from Kyiv, where they are concentrated on defending their city--- but I think this convoy will be attacked very nicely, when/if they can move to a better range...


God bless the Ukranian patriots, men, women and children

[L. Coyote]

49. Last infrared radar I saw has them around Antonov airport now.

So, they've move 40 miles from the first satellite image up thread, for what that's worth.

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[L. Coyote]

50. PHOTO: Russian military column tried to enter Bucha, a suburb to Kyiv, last night.

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[AntiFascist]

51. Maxar later updated their report on the convoy length from 17 miles to 40 miles...

I can't verify how true this is, I just know what is being reported:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-convoy-north-kyiv-stretches-40-miles-maxar-2022-03-01/

WASHINGTON, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Satellite images taken on Monday show a Russian military convoy north of the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv that stretches for about 40 miles (64 km), substantially longer than the 17 miles (27 km) reported earlier in the day, a U.S. private company said.

[L. Coyote]

52. No they did not. They reported how far it stretched, not the length, because some moved 40 miles.

They did not all move together at once in a tight formation, for obvious reasons.

Why is this so difficult to grasp? If I have three cats and I herd them together, I have a cat convoy three-feet long. If I set off a firecracker, do I have a two-hundred-yard cat convoy?

[AntiFascist]

53. "How far it stretched" IS a length. This is a matter of semantics. n/t

[L. Coyote]

54. Convoy "was stalled by Ukrainians blowing up a bridge and "direct attacks" against the vehicles"

Satellite imagery VIDEO:

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