So we knew what putin was going to do ahead of time. What's plan B?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

So far, putin's continuing to execute his plan, adding more fire power. Not deterred by sanctions or anyone calling his actions war crimes.

Meanwhile, Ukrainians fighting for their lives at this very SECOND. People and children are dying. War crimes being committed.

So sadly guess the free world doesn't have a Plan B. Because if we do more we risk nuclear war? And if we did more before invasion -- that would have risked nuclear war too????? Can't prove it now of course, but in retrospect, this strategy sounds like it would have been really super smart. Need to dig up what one DUer talked about a lot

So bottom line Ukrainians sacrificial. Just too hard to watch this.

[rgbecker]

1. Not over until the fat lady sings.

[comradebillyboy]

2. There aren't any easy solutions to this problem.

Biden is not the ruler of all the Earth. He can't wave his magic wand and make it all better.

[uponit7771]

3. Right now its wait on 3rd echelon from Belarus to gather behind them, he's losing resources fast

... and I don't think this is going to last past 2 months.

The main resources is support equipment, the UKR have done a surgical job at blowing up the support trucks etc

[bluestarone]

4. Joe is doing everything possible at this time.

We DO NOT know what he is doing under the radar. Wouldn't surprise me if there is some secret communications going on with some people in Russian military staff to take matters into their own hands. Putin is a crazy blood thirsty bastard.WE just have to wait and see. ONE thing though, I WILL support ANYTHING Joe decides to do!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Now that's some powerful faith!!!

[HUAJIAO]

5. putin will not stop with ukraine. he is after all of the former soviet union. at least.

[AlexSFCA]

9. baltic countries are most at risk after Ukraine

there really is no end in sight.

[Deminpenn]

6. The US probably could've done more "strategic ambiguity"

about whether or not we would chose to enter the conflict. Ruling out American forces on the ground or in the air made Putin's decisions a lot easier.

What if Biden used tonight's SOTU to warn Putin the US might no longer sit idly by as he commits war crimes?

[Demsrule86]

10. He will not get congressional approval. I am sure behind the scenes...'military advisors' and

special ops are on the scene. Joe Biden has done a great job of uniting Nato and Europe against Putin. But there are limits to what he can do...unlike Putin who is a mass-murdering dictator and a monster like Hitler and Stalin.

[Deminpenn]

18. The AUMF is still in effect afaik

That can be used as congressional authorization.

I give Biden a A++++ for his leadership uniting NATO/Eurpose and playing a weak hand well. Just think if Biden had strung along the idea that the US might get involved, even if he had no intention of committing American troops, it might have strengthened his hand a little more.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Excellent point! Agree 100%. Hope he does that!

Although it does emphasize that we have already

[Gore1FL]

7. Plan A seems pretty effective at this point.

The Russian economy is collapsed. Citizens are protesting across Russia. Putin's Oligarchs are showing signs of spintering. They are under-supplied, ill-motivated, untrained, and facing stiff resistance. They are under, minimally nuisance cyber attacks. NATO is upping the military presence in bordering member nations. Ukraine is being supplied with arms.

This is the first week.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Ya except for humans dying and Z begging for help.

[Gore1FL]

12. It seems like other options include more people dying and Zelinski still begging for help

I don't know what course of action the west should take that is an actual improvement over what is already being done.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Sadly at this point your last line probably very true :(

[Emile]

8. Not over until someone takes out Putin!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Like who? Would have to be internal. If countries won't even defend

Ukraine because they weren't in the EU or NATO yet, they're going to assassinate a leader however horrible the leader is?

[Emile]

20. It would have to be internal. Even then it would have to be someone

that can get close to him. Putin is afraid of his own shadow and keeps everyone 20 feet away.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. So true.

[hamsterjill]

17. I'm a pessimist by nature I guess

My thinking is that Putin will only stop when something/someone bigger than Putin makes him stop. If he is successful in using the threat of nuclear war, you can bet that he won’t be the last lunatic to use that.

Fiona Hill’s words were profound to me. She said we are already in WWIII.

Those poor people. The Ukrainians are so proud, so brave and I want us to help them. I also feel some sadness over the young Russian soldiers who obviously aren’t clued in as to what the plan is, and the Russian people, who will suffer.

Putin is still just one man. One living, breathing, mortal man. And like Trump, I have never understood how one man can dictate so much suffering without being stopped by whatever means necessary.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. Thanks for the heads up on Fiona Hill interview. It was

eye opening and so refreshing to read what a true expert has to say. She stresses the need for an all out effort of worldwide businesses to pledge that they won't do business with Russia anymore. Along with how difficult this is to achieve.

And not sure if she was being facetious but she talked about how Putin, because of covid and having plenty of time, has gone into the archives and read the history and is totally convinced that Ukraine is a non-nation and belongs back into the Russian fold. This may come by him grabbing parts vs the whole Ukraine.

[lame54]

19. I think Putin's on Plan 9

[Kingofalldems]

23. So what's your plan?

And what do you mean by 'Ukrainians sacrificial'?