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Really SALON?! Chris Hedges? (Original Post) Budi Mar 2022 OP
gone full Greenwald musette_sf Mar 2022 #1
If they were baited it's trump who did the baiting. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #2
Salon's been around long enough to know better. Budi Mar 2022 #6
"Biden made him do it" dalton99a Mar 2022 #3
And Salon running it. Budi Mar 2022 #8
They used to employ Glenn Greenwald, too. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #9
Glenn Greenwald. Bff to Assange. Wikileaks straight from Putin's media propaganda machine Budi Mar 2022 #14
Salon's still decent, but it does seem that they are allowing .... LenaBaby61 Mar 2022 #19
Wasn't Chris Hedges a DU member? PatSeg Mar 2022 #25
I didn't know until just now. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #38
Poor, unsuspecting Russia Omnipresent Mar 2022 #4
Another useful idiot. johnp3907 Mar 2022 #5
BLACK LIST SALON !!! uponit7771 Mar 2022 #7
"@Twitter should tag Salon as Russian media." Budi Mar 2022 #11
We are going to begin to find out whose loyalties were never really with us. gldstwmn Mar 2022 #10
Theyy ALL deserve to be outed for capitalizing profits off Putin's insanity. Budi Mar 2022 #12
Absolutely. There should be no tolerance of those who sympathize with Russia. gldstwmn Mar 2022 #13
I'm so gratified to see these pro Russia shills getting called out, after all this time. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #15
Salon Magazine dotcom was my 1st source of reason during the Bill Clinton trials.. Budi Mar 2022 #17
You don't have to bait a megalomaniacal paranoiac. dchill Mar 2022 #16
Salon sold its soul Budi Mar 2022 #18
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Mar 2022 #21
Russia, and apparently, Taylor Swift. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 #20
Taylor Swift is a good liberal obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #24
I know. It's a joke. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 #27
... lame54 Mar 2022 #26
Calling Putin weak lame54 Mar 2022 #22
What did Ukraine think, wearing that short skirt? obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #23
This Bucky Mar 2022 #39
Maybe read the article before jumping to this conclusion? intheflow Mar 2022 #28
I read the story. shrike3 Mar 2022 #29
One base 100 miles from Russia's border seems like a particularly weak argument for betsuni Mar 2022 #33
My feelings exactly. shrike3 Mar 2022 #36
Disinformation to shape public opinion seems to happen everywhere, jalan48 Mar 2022 #31
I really don't expect anything better from Salon. comradebillyboy Mar 2022 #30
So, meanies U.S./NATO broke promises, making Russia feel "threatened, betrayed and angry." betsuni Mar 2022 #32
Exactly. Any source headlining Hedges, gives away their purpose. Budi Mar 2022 #35
Salon has a couple of excellent women SharonClark Mar 2022 #34
What a disappointment. I used to really like him. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #37
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. Salon's been around long enough to know better.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:39 PM
Mar 2022

They can go fk right off. And take Peter Daou with them.

Useless money & media sellouts

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
14. Glenn Greenwald. Bff to Assange. Wikileaks straight from Putin's media propaganda machine
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:48 PM
Mar 2022

Figures. Snakes find each other.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
19. Salon's still decent, but it does seem that they are allowing ....
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:12 PM
Mar 2022

More reich-winged content on the site. Too much for my taste, so I'm reading Salon less often.


 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. "@Twitter should tag Salon as Russian media."
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:42 PM
Mar 2022

Commentor noted. 👍

They couldn't find anything at all newsworthy to print?

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
10. We are going to begin to find out whose loyalties were never really with us.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:42 PM
Mar 2022

They are here and there are more of them than we realize.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. Theyy ALL deserve to be outed for capitalizing profits off Putin's insanity.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:44 PM
Mar 2022

SALON. Something for everybody!

Now we know.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
13. Absolutely. There should be no tolerance of those who sympathize with Russia.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:46 PM
Mar 2022

They should become pariahs.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
15. I'm so gratified to see these pro Russia shills getting called out, after all this time.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:52 PM
Mar 2022

Thanks for all you do, DU!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
17. Salon Magazine dotcom was my 1st source of reason during the Bill Clinton trials..
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:03 PM
Mar 2022

When they went full backflip I do not know.
Did they sell off to a bigger billion$$$ Corporate structure along the way somewhere?

I haven't bothered with them since they went full anti-Democratic Party in 2015/16.
About the same time Putin made his propaganda media move.

Guess that answers THAT question.
"Money & Media"

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
23. What did Ukraine think, wearing that short skirt?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:19 PM
Mar 2022

Why did the US buy it for her and make her wear it so I wanted to savage Ukraine. Not my fault!

This is the exact thinking.

intheflow

(28,504 posts)
28. Maybe read the article before jumping to this conclusion?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:38 PM
Mar 2022

Hedges lays out his antiwar argument in the first paragraph:

Preemptive war, whether in Iraq or Ukraine, is a war crime. It does not matter if the war is launched on the basis of lies and fabrications, as was the case in Iraq, or because of the breaking of a series of agreements with Russia, including the promise by Washington not to extend NATO beyond the borders of a unified Germany, not to deploy thousands of NATO troops in Eastern Europe and not to meddle in the internal affairs of nations on the Russia's border, as well as the refusal to implement the Minsk II peace agreement. The invasion of Ukraine would, I expect, never have happened if these promises had been kept. Russia has every right to feel threatened, betrayed and angry. But to understand is not to condone. The invasion of Ukraine, under post-Nuremberg laws, is a criminal war of aggression.

Lays more blame on Washington - under TFG - than Russia, and that rings true to me. The entire rest of the article is Hedges laying out the horrors of war. It's a very strong antiwar opinion, but the tweet is from someone who has "Zelensky" in their handle so I guess it can't be critically questioned or examined.

Closing paragraph of piece - NOT pro-Putin or Russia:

This provocation, which includes establishing a NATO missile base 100 miles from Russia's border, was foolish and highly irresponsible. It never made geopolitical sense. This does not, however, excuse the invasion of Ukraine. Yes, the Russians were baited. But they reacted by pulling the trigger. This is a crime. Their crime. Let us pray for a ceasefire. Let us work for a return to diplomacy and sanity, a moratorium on arms shipments to Ukraine and the withdrawal of Russian troops from the country. Let us hope for an end to war before we stumble into a nuclear holocaust that devours us all.

shrike3

(3,803 posts)
29. I read the story.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:41 PM
Mar 2022

I'm sorry, but I don't see how a sovereign country putting in a NATO base is baiting Russia to war.

betsuni

(25,657 posts)
33. One base 100 miles from Russia's border seems like a particularly weak argument for
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:28 PM
Mar 2022

supposedly baiting Russia to war.

betsuni

(25,657 posts)
32. So, meanies U.S./NATO broke promises, making Russia feel "threatened, betrayed and angry."
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:23 PM
Mar 2022

The permanent war economy is the root of the conflict with Moscow, Western companies and government will profit. The American press used bellicose rhetoric, demonized Putin, made Ukrainians "demigods." Russia was provoked and baited, but invading Ukraine is a crime. War is very bad. Let us pray for a ceasefire.

If the point of the article was the horrors of war, he should've discussed that without the passive-aggressive both sides thing.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
34. Salon has a couple of excellent women
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 06:26 PM
Mar 2022

writers but I’ll never forgive them for H. A. Goodman, the Bernie-loving Hillary hater who went full on trumper, and Goodman’s acolyte Walter Bragman.

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