Putin's days are numbered....maybe in double digits......just now on MSNBC

[ashredux]

John Brennan, was on MSNBC discussing Ukraine and Putin’s dilemma. At the end of the segment he said he believed Putin’s days were numbered. And then he said, almost as an afterthought, and it could be within double digits. The fact that he used double digits made me think something is brewing. Just saying…..

[mn9driver]

1. Single digits would be better.

His inner circle is probably drawing straws right now.

[elleng]

3. Been hoping someone(s) would do that.

[onecaliberal]

10. Me too.

[Mr. Evil]

60. Yes.

And give him the Mussolini treatment.

[mysteryowl]

70. ...or the Caesar treatment

Hey, "Mr. Evil" are you evil? What does your screen name mean?

[Mr. Evil]

74. It doesn't mean shit.

It's neighborly Heavy Metal humor.

666, the number of the beast,
664, the dude next door.

[mysteryowl]

76. In my younger days I was into...

RUSH
Ted Nuggent
Alice Cooper

Those days are done for me though. Actually, now I am learning about Hip Hop Rap.

[Mr. Evil]

79. Love Rush and Cooper.

I wouldn't listen to TN anymore if I was threatened to have red-hot ice picks jabbed into my balls. I'm a life-long Metalhead. Ever since Black Sabbath's 1st album. I didn't understand it at the time but, I knew I sure as hell liked it! That was 1970. I have no plans to cease loving Heavy Metal. Lately I've been listening to Japanese Metal bands almost exclusively. They are awesome. Babymetal, Lovebites (all female and incredible), Unlucky Morpheus, Yousei Teikoku, etc. Check them out on YouTube. You'll be thoroughly entertained!

[mysteryowl]

81. Thanks for the tip(s) I will check them out on youT.

[dlilafae]

92. I was into French Rap

for awhile. Didn't understand a damned word. hahahaaa.

[Mr. Evil]

93. Hah!

If the melodies are there, you can learn the words later.

[dchill]

6. I got yer single digit right here!

[lagomorph777]

17. DUzy!

[LuckyCharms]

28. .

[COL Mustard]

57. Don't point that thing at me!

[FailureToCommunicate]

59. ...

[ProudMNDemocrat]

20. Ettu Brute?

Supposedly Julius Caesar's final words on the floor of the Roman Senate as dramatized by the Bard himself, William Shakespeare.

Putin's might not be so eloquent.

[Jarqui]

27. More likely Tu brutalis in Putin's case ... nt

[AntiFascist]

75. The Ides of March could still be double digits

[ProudMNDemocrat]

82. As the soothsayer did say...

Beware the Ides of March.

[SunSeeker]

21. Maybe his inner circle is lethally equipping one of Putin's mistresses as we speak.

[TimeToGo]

34. Yea - 99 days is 99 too many

[uponit7771]

2. Yeah, as soon as he declares martial law in Moscow and the EFFECTS of the economy being ...

... cratered are felt he'll have little choices.

Only RU propanda now showing but they're not shutting down external internet.

RU is going to go through some things

[getagrip_already]

4. The duma/parliment/whatever they call it these days is calling an emergency session.....

They can not be happy. They are going to be facing a revolution if this doesn't end quickly. People will be starving and nothing is going to move.

Even the military has its limits.

[ColinC]

5. Does the Parliament have the ability to remove him?

If so, I wonder what the chances are.

[temporary311]

9. If they have the ability, do they have the power?

If they do whatever their version of impeachment is (assuming they can) and he ignores them, I'm not sure what they can do. Guess it would come down to the military.

[ColinC]

11. He would certainly no longer be a constitutionally legitimate president

And I would assume the military would be required to take that seriously.

[getagrip_already]

16. It's firmly under his control....

So the fact that they are addressing it at all is unusual.

It's unlikely they will issue a firm rebuke.

But any expression of no confidence, or a lack of any crack down on dissidents, could send a strong signal to the military and prepare the people for change. No action would be a definite action.

The most likely course is they could just issue a series of martial law proclamations. Who knows. But the people won't like that one bit, and they don't seem to be afraid of him.

[NJCher]

29. but, sputter, but, but

They are going to be facing a revolution if this doesn't end quickly. People will be starving and nothing is going to move.

Sanctions don't work!

[ColinC]

37. Do you have a link to a news source about this?

I have been unable to find anything in Google from this.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. It's widely reported, like on Canadian radio news. They will be outlawing the word "war", "invasion"

and "attack", with reference to the (officially preferred terminology) "special operation". There will be prison terms of up to 15 years for using those words or it might be 15 years for sharing info not from official Russian sources. I think they are going to pass at a gallop both criminalizations.

The rumour is that martial law is on the table and might be passed into law Friday.

Duma has passed a draft of their "fake news" law:

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-duma-false-news-war-law-invasion/31734629.html

[ColinC]

55. Thank you!!

[getagrip_already]

43. here is a du link....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216430271

But I've seen it elsewhere as well.

[ColinC]

54. Thanks!!

[onetexan]

51. Whoa. if anyone can read the tea leaves & sees something there it would be John Brennan.

[Eyeball_Kid]

64. I heard earlier today that the Duma would meet to pass a new law about political dissent. I hope...

... this is a false story:

The law on the docket is that those who are arrested for protesting the war will be detained and then DRAFTED INTO THE MILITARY and sent to the front lines in Ukraine.

Let's not assume that the emergency session is good news, or that the Duma wants to throw something at Putin. There are a lot of people in authority in Russia who can match Putin on the crazy scale.

[Eyeball_Kid]

71. IMO, here's the ugly truth about Putin:

He's narrowed his options so much that he CANNOT negotiate a cease fire or an end to hostilities. He's so worked up and raging at his lack of a quick success in UKR that he's consumed with punishing his victims for their natural desire to resist and defeat the invaders (i.e., Putin). He's quite willing, and even committed, to turn Ukraine into rubble because they refuse to bend to his will.

So.. he cannot quit and evacuate UKR because he refuses to accept defeat in any form.

He cannot negotiate a cease fire because he won't like the terms presented to him. Anything short of complete victory, to Putin, means complete defeat.

He cannot win the war because, in the long run, Ukraine will play cutthroat. Russia will die from a thousand cuts.

He cannot recognize UKR as a sovereign nation because he already declared that it is not, and he was not saying "maybe."

He has no leverage to negotiate an end to sanctions, so he's using the false threat of nuclear war to intimidate. That won't work. Adults are in charge in the West.

Anything short of complete victory will be seen by the Duma, the world, and his military as complete defeat, and will fatally weaken Putin.

So here's what's left: Putin must be removed from office BY FORCE. Those interested in a better future for Russia will have to concede that removing Putin is best for their nation. And since there are no means for peaceful transfer of power, Dictator Putin will have to be violently removed.

So.. he is doomed to failure. His fate is sealed.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

84. The 1910's were hard in Russia

Before the fall of the Romanov Tsars.

History repeating itself in the Internet age.

[dchill]

7. Where will the Trumps run to now?

[leftieNanner]

12. They would not have been welcomed in Moscow anyway

The Orange One is no longer useful for Putler.

Figure they might head to the Middle East. Just so long as there is no extradition treaty with the US.

[SouthernDem4ever]

85. That sick fuck trump had the nerve to say this would not have heppened if he were elected

only a sick narcissistic fuck would think that is a normal way to think. If his sorry ass could have stopped this, he should have whether he's president or not - which makes his stupid comments at the best worthless and at the worst evil.

[Ford_Prefect]

53. Orban my have a Dacha to spare near the Balaton Golf Club.

[birdographer]

65. I was thinking about trump

If Putin is disposed of by his inner circle, I wonder if trump will wonder if his cronies who really just want him gone (but won't admit it) will see a way out of their own dilemma. If it can happen to Putin, it can happen to him.

[dchill]

78. Interesting...

[Grasswire2]

95. Trump has Secret Service protection, remember. nt

[Captain Zero]

96. I ve been counting on Trump to crash and burn

if Putin goes.

[JHB]

72. I'm sure he can still swing a deal for a resort/residence on one of the islands...

...north of the arctic circle.

[Wicked Blue]

8. From his lips to the ears of the goddess Nemesis

[relayerbob]

13. I'm certain of it

Have been since about DAy 2 of the invasion.oligarchs losing their money, generals being humiliated on the battlefield. And every Russian in the know, understands that Russia will be utterly crushed by this, Ukraine isn’t going to roll over, and the sanctions won’t stop.

[maxsolomon]

14. Too much happy-clappy.

He's been in power 20 years plus. That is absurdly optimistic.

[Corgigal]

15. Could be true,

could be psychological warfare. This statement must have had CIA approval.
This statement, and all the intelligence released about going into Ukraine, got to make the tiny paranoid man..paranoid.

[Haggard Celine]

77. That's a very good possibility.

Paranoid people make mistakes and are easier to manipulate.

[usonian]

18. You live for regime change (USA), You perish by regime change. (Russia)

What propaganda, buying the president and subversion didn't do, economic sanctions just might.

Oligarchs had it too damn good here, wanted it all, and we beat them (except for MLB owners, but that's another matter)

Oligarchs are hurting in Russia and you know the price of failure.

[Poiuyt]

35. Great reference!

[not fooled]

49. Kronsteen even looks a little like putin

with more hair.

[link:|]

[jobendorfer]

80. Yeah, but Vladek Sheybal was a gentleman in the true sense of the word. n/t

[Yorkie Mom]

19. That sounds like a very dangerous statement.

[roamer65]

22. The FSB leaked the information on assassination attempt on Pres Zelenskyy.

There is dissent in the FSB.

[jobendorfer]

42. I interpreted that differently

Of course, there are a number of quite valid ways to interpret that news report -- I could easily be wrong here -- but I assumed that this news, which was sourced by the Ukrainian government, was disinformation designed to sow mistrust between Putin and the FSB. But I certainly agree with the assessment that the invasion is not going well, the Russian economy is cratering, that NATO and the EU are united in ways they have not been for well over a decade, and that Russia is likely to end up with *more* EU/NATO members on its borders than it had a month ago. Which means Putin's cronies have to be asking him, "What's the exit strategy here?" His specific answer is far less important than the speed with which he makes it.

John

[roamer65]

46. I think there is dissent.

Many are of mixed Ukrainian and Russian heritage over there.

[marked50]

23. Double digits is way too long. That's 99 days or less- yikes

[brush]

24. OK. Ok. Our intel has been very accurate so far in predicting what would happen...

with the Ukraine situation. Brennan may very well be privy too brewing coup plans. They do it quickly there. Khurshchev was in one day and gone the next. Brezhnev died in office and so did the next two after him, but Gorbachev, the formidable reformer didn't last long after the fall of the iron curtain.

Yelsin replace him but yielded to Putin who has been in place for 22 years.

That's long enough.

[Lonestarblue]

52. Trump removed Brennan's security clearance.

I haven’t read anything about it being restored by Biden, so he may not have access to national security info. I watched that segment, and my impression was that Brennan’s claim that Putin’s days would be numbered in double digits was almost an afterthought. I hope his days number in the single digits and he is soon gone and this heinous war is stopped.

[hamsterjill]

94. If Brennan actually knew something

He would be smart enough not to say it. He’s a commentator expressing an opinion. Hopefully, he’s right. But I doubt he has any inside info.

[Torchlight]

25. This has been my thought too, but decided it too imaginative to voice in any real way.

A member of Russia's version of the state department publicly said (yesterday or the day before?) that the invasion is a national embarrassment. Hundreds (and that's a conservative low-ball on my part) of protestors taken in, protests around the country and not limited to Moscow or St Petersburg, a quickly and immediately-felt contracting vice of economic sanctions. I doubt the population of any country would accept these terms for any real length of time absent the national will to wage an expansive and costly war-- which only Ukraine seems to posses at the moment.

I think Putin knows this as well. I think he realizes that a quick and immediate military victory is his life-line to remaining in power. If he loses the will of the Russian people, game over and we could get Nicolae Ceaușescu, Part II.

[NJCher]

38. Dictator Demise Menu

Hundreds (and that's a conservative low-ball on my part) of protestors taken in,

Did you see the clip on television of Russian protestor kids in jail? Yeah, they were sitting behind bars still holding their Crayon protest signs.
I swear it's true.

Nicolae Ceaușescu, Part II.

Ceausescu was tried and convicted of economic sabotage and genocide. Met with the firing squad on CHRISTMAS!

So that's rather savory. On the other hand, I kinda' like the spidey hole scenario.



A bit of a comedown from this:

[KPN]

26. Hurry up please. Things are getting to the

point of being scared — about where this is going — is the prudently realistic feeling.

[Boomerproud]

31. I'm with you and I hate being afraid.

[orangecrush]

50. +1

[Crunchy Frog]

30. I'll believe it when it happens.

[NoMoreRepugs]

32. I would think the single most important group is the military leadership.

Leaders come and go - the military in a country like Russia (like the U.S.) is FOREVER.

Just an opinion….

[BlueIdaho]

66. And right now the Russian military is being humiliated.

That won’t play well with the Russian brass. They may be considering ousting Putin before he starts executing them for failure to perform.

[NoMoreRepugs]

91. I'm leaning towards that theory myself.

[milestogo]

33. 99 days is a hell of a long time for a war against civilians.

[11 Bravo]

36. Only twelve more days 'til the Ides of March!

Et tu, Dmitri?

[2naSalit]

73. I was...

Thinking about that earlier today.

Seems a lot of people are thinking this very thing. Time will tell.

[Slammer]

39. removal

One Russian oligarch who lives in London offered a couple of days ago $1,000,000 to any Russian officers who remove Putin from power.

[Richard D]

62. 1 million . . .

. . . is not enough. Maybe 30 million would get some quick action.

[hedda_foil]

41. Poutine will be out tomorrow. Bet your double digits that tomorrow, he'll be gone.

Time to bow out, Vlad!

[Joinfortmill]

44. Good

[Warpy]

45. They might keep him on as the face of tyhe war

which would seem to be a colossal failure of both Russian intelligence and the military, none of whom are going to want to accept any responsibility for it.

[StClone]

47. And for Trump?

[gibraltar72]

48. I posted in late Feb.

he wouldn't make it through March. Liable to fall off a balcony.

[peppertree]

56. Coup is in the air...

[58Sunliner]

58. I fervently hope this is true.

I am beside myself thinking about the murder and destruction that sick, twisted, scum has wreaked upon innocent lives for decades now.

[highplainsdem]

61. God, I hope so!

[The Wizard]

63. Will he try the Forrestal

exit route?

[Chakaconcarne]

67. wonder how this squares with macrons statement

regarding his meeting with Putler? Sounded pretty ominous.

[bucolic_frolic]

68. Russia and Putin are hog-tied

Everything is frozen. The banks, money, oil flows. Oligarch owners can't be happy. The military may be destroying everything in Ukraine, but they're bogged down. Foreign goods are not entering the country. I'm not even hearing that Russian hackers are active. Near universal condemnation has Russia in a vise. Their path is short with little room to maneuver. There is no moral escape from what they've done. Their response is .... marital law? What is that Stalingrad II? Yes I'd say it's a safe bet that whatever the outcome, Putin has little leverage. The fear he can create is nuclear weapons. That's how I interpret Director Brennan's double digits comment.

[royable]

69. Here's hoping that the first of the double digits is a zero. n/t

[yaesu]

86. the problem is he wants to take the rest of us with him. nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

87. A lot can happen in...up to 99 days. Nt

[Kablooie]

88. I hope he's right but...

I just heard on Fresh Air, a specialist on US-Russia relations who said that Putin has set up the government so that all the top level officials depend on him to keep their jobs. If something happened to Putin they would all go down too.
Putin set things up this way specifically so they wouldn't turn on him.

He did say that Putin has lost all credibility permanently and this will be a huge headache for Russia in many ways for years to come.

[erronis]

89. One reason that the russian air force has not been deployed as expected - Putin fears a putsch.

If there is any branch of the armed forces that could take out this dictator it would be several attack bombers.

[Quixote1818]

90. Does Brennan still get classified briefings? nt