Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:36 PM

Breaking News: Chris Hayes just said that there is a "fire fight" at nuke plant, not just a fire.

Also that Biden was talking to Zelensky right now. It was also considered breaking news.

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Breaking News: Chris Hayes just said that there is a "fire fight" at nuke plant, not just a fire. (Original post)	okaawhatever	Mar 2022	OP
The Russians were shelling the plant AND firing on the firefighters trying to put out the fire.	highplainsdem	Mar 2022	#1
Yeah, gosh, let the nuclear plant burn...	PatrickforB	Mar 2022	#30
This is the red line	angrychair	Mar 2022	#2
Agreed. nt	okaawhatever	Mar 2022	#3
Reactors are supposed to go critical	Jerry2144	Mar 2022	#12
This is the same problem we've always had. "NATO cannot allow them."	pnwmom	Mar 2022	#14
I really think Putin has lost his mind.	COL Mustard	Mar 2022	#4
I am retired at my country place not that far really San Antonio.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#6
Yeah having another drink too	madville	Mar 2022	#8
San Antonio is a busy place.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#9
NORAD here. Going for the brandy and chocolate cake.	niyad	Mar 2022	#16
Have some of that chocolate cake.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#17
walnut or poppy seed?	niyad	Mar 2022	#18
Apple.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#21
Yummmm. with you on the poppy seed.	niyad	Mar 2022	#22
My Grandmother made poppy seed ones.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#25
Yum, now you're talking!	summer_in_TX	Mar 2022	#24
I will most any fruit but if I make them it is only apple.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#27
I'm no cook.	summer_in_TX	Mar 2022	#28
I will eat all that.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#29
We used to love to stop in West when my in-laws were alive.	summer_in_TX	Mar 2022	#33
I was a little kid in 1962	COL Mustard	Mar 2022	#42
I don't think the troops on the ground have that kind of CCC.	Gore1FL	Mar 2022	#7
You can see the rounds (tracers perhaps) in CNN.	underpants	Mar 2022	#5
Prepare yourself everyone	BradAllison	Mar 2022	#10
Talked to my Grandkids today for a long time.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#11
I think it broke her	NightWatcher	Mar 2022	#13
Putin is freaking out, as everything is failing for him, and he needs NATO to join in the fight.	TheBlackAdder	Mar 2022	#15
I don't think he's freaking out at all	dwayneb	Mar 2022	#19
His little 2-day war has turned into a quagmire in just 4 days. He has no graceful exit.	TheBlackAdder	Mar 2022	#20
Nobody wants to be associated with Russia now.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#23
Yep. Change must come from within Russia. Soon, when all are against Russia they must ask why.	TheBlackAdder	Mar 2022	#26
Maybe he will fall out a window.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#32
Stop trying to cheer my day up.	TheBlackAdder	Mar 2022	#38
You are welcome.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#39
Seizing the Power Plants is a tactic.	maxsolomon	Mar 2022	#31
I bet the Ukrainen fighters stop taking prisoners.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#34
In response to the power plant attack?	maxsolomon	Mar 2022	#35
I see them being nice to a point.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#36
OK.	maxsolomon	Mar 2022	#37
These fighters are under a lot of stress.	Texaswitchy	Mar 2022	#40
If there is a sudden radiation leak	DFW	Mar 2022	#41

Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:38 PM

highplainsdem (44,517 posts)

1. The Russians were shelling the plant AND firing on the firefighters trying to put out the fire.

But firefighters have now been allowed in. See my two threads about tweets from NEXTA.

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:30 AM

PatrickforB (14,002 posts)

30. Yeah, gosh, let the nuclear plant burn...

and fire on those firefighters!

What could possibly go wrong?

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:41 PM

angrychair (7,660 posts)

2. This is the red line

Accounts I've read on Twitter imply they are heavily damaging it.
This is the largest nuclear power plant in Europe.
If it goes critical it could kill thousands and make millions sick.

I lived in Europe during the Chernobyl disaster and despite being thousands of miles away we were still impacted by the fallout.

NATO cannot allow them to cause a nuclear disaster.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:44 PM

okaawhatever (9,344 posts)

3. Agreed. nt

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Response to angrychair (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:08 PM

Jerry2144 (1,595 posts)

12. Reactors are supposed to go critical

That’s how they make power. Critical means the chain reaction is steady and power is steady. In power reactors, critical is normal and good. I am sure those reactors are shut down and won’t be taken critical until the invaders are gone and any damage repaired.

What you should be worried about is if it loses all cooling to the fuel.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:25 PM

pnwmom (107,968 posts)

14. This is the same problem we've always had. "NATO cannot allow them."

How is NATO supposed to stop them, exactly?

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:44 PM

COL Mustard (4,922 posts)

4. I really think Putin has lost his mind.

If he's doing/allowing/sanctioning this, he's insane.

Not going to sleep well tonight, inside the Beltway as I am.

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:47 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

6. I am retired at my country place not that far really San Antonio.

Cuban Missile Crisis all over again.

Think I will get another beer.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:55 PM

madville (7,183 posts)

8. Yeah having another drink too

I’m retired from the US military, out here in rural north Florida, this can snowball quick

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Response to madville (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:10 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

9. San Antonio is a busy place.

We are maybe close to halfway between Austin and San Antonio.

Wish I was sitting next to my Grandmother again on that front porch swing.

That was a comfort last time.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:28 PM

niyad (101,372 posts)

16. NORAD here. Going for the brandy and chocolate cake.

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Response to niyad (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:34 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

17. Have some of that chocolate cake.

I have some kolaches here.

Kolaches are a Czech pastry.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:40 PM

niyad (101,372 posts)

18. walnut or poppy seed?

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Response to niyad (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:46 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

21. Apple.

I made them so I made apple ones

Also some pigs in a blanket.

I do not like poppy seed.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:48 PM

niyad (101,372 posts)

22. Yummmm. with you on the poppy seed.

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Response to niyad (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:51 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

25. My Grandmother made poppy seed ones.

I will eat other fruit fillings but apple is my favorite.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:49 PM

summer_in_TX (2,223 posts)

24. Yum, now you're talking!

What are your favorite types?

Sorry, momentary distraction.

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Response to summer_in_TX (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:54 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

27. I will most any fruit but if I make them it is only apple.

It is a lot of work.

A whole days work.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:59 PM

summer_in_TX (2,223 posts)

28. I'm no cook.

But I sure love eating them!

Plum, apricot, cream cheese, oh my!

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Response to summer_in_TX (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:27 AM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

29. I will eat all that.

We have picky eaters here so apple is neutral filling also.

The sausage for the pig in blankets comes from our neighbor's smokehouse

He had to make extra for him.

All day job.

But worth it.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:34 AM

summer_in_TX (2,223 posts)

33. We used to love to stop in West when my in-laws were alive.

They lived in Fort Worth, we lived in Austin at the time. What a treat to stop at the Czech bakery.

It's too bad it's so labor intensive, although I guess if it were more available, I'd be in trouble. Hard to pass up.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:54 AM

COL Mustard (4,922 posts)

42. I was a little kid in 1962

My dad was in the Army and we were stationed at Ft. Sam. Fortunately I don't remember those days but it was a scary time for the grownups.

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:55 PM

Gore1FL (20,596 posts)

7. I don't think the troops on the ground have that kind of CCC.

Putin isn't directly giving the orders for this. This is some idiot commander on the ground with probably no idea what he's hitting.

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:46 PM

underpants (176,727 posts)

5. You can see the rounds (tracers perhaps) in CNN.

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:59 PM

BradAllison (1,879 posts)

10. Prepare yourself everyone

Tell your loved ones now.....

A suicidal nut has nukes and is desperate to use them.

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Response to BradAllison (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:07 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

11. Talked to my Grandkids today for a long time.

And my cousin.

All all them in Canada.

My cousin came to have some surgery and welcome two great grandchildren.

I blame Trump for a lot of this.

Kissing up to Putin.

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:14 PM

NightWatcher (39,343 posts)

13. I think it broke her

Link to tweet

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:27 PM

TheBlackAdder (26,595 posts)

15. Putin is freaking out, as everything is failing for him, and he needs NATO to join in the fight.

.

I believe if a NATO country attacks another, the mutual defense clause does not kick in.

I think that only kicks in if a NATO country is attacked first.

.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:41 PM

dwayneb (691 posts)

19. I don't think he's freaking out at all

This monster is enjoying every minute of the chaos and devastation he is causing.

Failing? I don't see that at all. The Russian attack appears to be clumsy but in the end they will annihilate Ukraine. Install Russian friendlies in every city and his puppet in Kyiv.

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Response to dwayneb (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:44 PM

TheBlackAdder (26,595 posts)

20. His little 2-day war has turned into a quagmire in just 4 days. He has no graceful exit.

.

The first Chinese back is freezing them out and more will follow. India will be next.

.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:48 PM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

23. Nobody wants to be associated with Russia now.

Nobody.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:53 PM

TheBlackAdder (26,595 posts)

26. Yep. Change must come from within Russia. Soon, when all are against Russia they must ask why.

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When 90% of the countries are against Russia's actions. If China and India join in, that's something that cannot be refuted, no matter how much propaganda Putin throws at them. Instituting Martial Law will just amplify the growing distrust in Putin.

If a foreign nation tries to take him out, that would be calamitous.

.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:33 AM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

32. Maybe he will fall out a window.

Could happen.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:49 AM

TheBlackAdder (26,595 posts)

38. Stop trying to cheer my day up.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #38)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:52 AM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

39. You are welcome.

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:33 AM

maxsolomon (30,644 posts)

31. Seizing the Power Plants is a tactic.

They can cut off power to the population. I doubt they're trying to destroy it. It makes more sense to control it.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:35 AM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

34. I bet the Ukrainen fighters stop taking prisoners.

Yes.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #34)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:37 AM

maxsolomon (30,644 posts)

35. In response to the power plant attack?

I mean maybe but I don't see the connection.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:45 AM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

36. I see them being nice to a point.

But everyone has their limits.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #36)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:47 AM

maxsolomon (30,644 posts)

37. OK.

I hope they keep taking prisoners. That would be per the Geneva Convention.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #37)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:59 AM

Texaswitchy (2,962 posts)

40. These fighters are under a lot of stress.

People can snap.

One of my Uncles help liberate one of the death camps in WW2.

The American soldiers were so angry that they shot a lot the German soldiers at the camp.

Line them up against a wall and shot them.

My Uncle who could speak German spoke to them first.

Things happen.

The war is only going to get worse.

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Response to okaawhatever (Original post)

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 01:03 AM

DFW (51,157 posts)

41. If there is a sudden radiation leak

It won’t care who is in its path. Maybe Putin can cover it jp for a while, but at some point word will filter back into Russia.

I think Putin’s miscalculations may earn him the same fate as Julius Caesar. They’d never admit it public, of course. They’d say he slipped and fell on a pin cushion, and give him a hero’s funeral. That’s how it’s done there.

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