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[chia]

1. Wow. K&R

[TheBlackAdder]

22. Perhaps Facebook stopped boosting those type of posts too.

[blm]

2. Major trollage.

[Scrivener7]

3. I love how everyone is surprised by this.

[underpants]

6. But but Ben Shapiro has such a wonderful social media marketing strategy

He used to mention the abuse towards him because he’s Jewish then suddenly he has massive daily hits. Regardless of his nonsense, his voice (on radio) is beyond annoying.

[monkeyman1]

72. we know which party is the Russian asset's are for sure now don't we ?

[underpants]

77. No question. Nt

[orwell]

7. Not me...

...I've been shouting this for years but nobody wanted to listen.

When you understand how social media algorithms are structured it is painfully obvious what has been going on.

This is essentially what elected Dumpf...

[Scrivener7]

12. Yep. And all the loyal "I just use it to talk to my grandchildren" folks helped.

[FoxNewsSucks]

15. Absolutely.

They share the blame, for being too lazy to send an email or dial a phone.

[orwell]

26. That one drives me crazy...

...I am a computer consultant who never joined Facebook. I pleaded with people, friends, customers, almost anyone I could to avoid joining Facebook. I knew early on from studying what was going on with "Zuck and Co" that the probability of a weaponized propaganda platform was extremely high. It was like the gamma knife of advertising.

Not only was the data collection astonishing, but the platform's algorithm was designed to entice the user into an almost hypnotic state of dopamine addiction to the screen. The business model is built on user engagement.

You are the product.

This is true of Google, Twitter, Microsoft Windows 10, and many other "free" services. I admit to using Google a lot but I know the tradeoff I am making.

Facebook however is orders of magnitude more wicked.

Facebook is the most powerful propaganda tool ever invented. People who think they are immune, aren't.

Fuck Zuck...

[Scrivener7]

27. If exposing Cambridge Analytica's role in the 2016 election didn't convince them

- including its permission-free collection of all the data of just about all US voters on the platform, and the psy-op team that tailored messages to those voters through Facebook in order to push them to the right - nothing will convince them.

[orwell]

31. Spot on...

...it was also instrumental in the Brexit catastrophe.

This is the global CON disinfo platform...QAnon, Brexit, Drumpf, Bannon, and the rest of the filth and sludge that oozes from the Wrong Wing.

Cambridge bragged that it could change outcomes through algorithms. It isn't bragging if you do it.

[Scrivener7]

34. And people think they were disbanded. But they just changed their name and

just got better at not bragging about it.

[Saboburns]

43. You 4 are showing how much you don't understand how Facebook works.

Us democrats on Facebook don't see, want to see, or distribute Republican/Russian propaganda. Not ever a little bit of it.

You see we share, distribute, and consume news and stories based in reality, and good PR for Democrats and the Democratic party. And by not joining in you are contributing to the problem. WE COULD USE YOUR HELP.

So please stop shaming Democratic leaning Facebook users. BY DOING SO YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION.

Get on Facebook and help us out.

[ret5hd]

48. You still make money for Facebook.

[Scrivener7]

57. Lol!

[WA-03 Democrat]

62. Facebook is the problem

They take rubles to spread anti democratic propaganda. Giving them more eyeballs is not the answer. Shutting them down is. There are alternatives.

[Saboburns]

67. I spread truth and anti-propaganda. (you could too!)

Here's my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/chris.burns.39750

I propose an offer. I'll give you $100 for every anti-democratic propaganda you find on my Facebook page. And you give me $1 for every truth and pro-democratic PR you find on my Facebook page.

What do ya say??

Again I ask for your help, Join and use Facebook. Help us to combat anti-democratic propaganda.

Do your part!

[WA-03 Democrat]

69. I don't have a FB account and will never get one-I am doing my part!

You are enabling an anti-democratic company that helped Trump get elected through Russia and Putin. Here's the best and shortest speech to you updated to help you understand the tool.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/22/sacha-baron-cohen-facebook-propaganda

The platform is the problem. Every one of your post is on the platform that gladly helps dictators and authoritarian regimes globally.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/07/tech/facebook-myanmar-rohingya-muslims-intl-hnk/index.html

Delete your Facebook account-you will be happy you did!

[Saboburns]

71. Shaming good Democrats for using Facebook is part of the problem.

You, then, are part of the Facebook problem.

Join Facebook to become part of the solution.

Do your part!

[NBachers]

68. I'm a loyal "I just use it to talk to friends, family, and grandchildren" user. I also have an

extremely active ActBlue account, which these days is in response to many of the candidates and Democratic groups I access through Facebook.

Go ahead and attack me about this and we'll see how far you get with it.

[Scrivener7]

70. "And we'll see how far you get with it"? What the hell does THAT mean?

I have no intention of attacking you. If you find my truthful statement to be an attack that requires weird threats from you, that's your issue.

[Cha]

75. Good on ya, NBachers.

[Dr. Shepper]

4. Nice showing by

allkpop

[CommonHumanity]

5. That says it all.

Case closed. Now we need to just let everyone in our country see this! But how?

[Wingus Dingus]

8. Neat.

[Kali]

9. except

shapiro is still there in the top ten

[demmiblue]

38. Twice today (along with Graham, The Daily Wire, Bongino and Fox):

Here is today's:

1. Ben Shapiro
2. Ben Shapiro
3. Franklin Graham
4. Delish
5. Daily Wire
6. Dan Bongino
7. Fox News
8. TMZ
9. ComicBook. com
10. Business Insider

Link to tweet

[GoCubsGo]

10. I understand they also banned Twitter.

I suspect the differences before and after will be at least as stark, if not more so.

[Tommymac]

19. The bot farms can still post to Twitter. They just banned the Russian public from reading it.

So not much difference will be seen there.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. There's something to this

Russian money has been cutoff, Right Wingers in the US don’t know quite what to do without Russian support. Russia has spent decades developing US assets, they pay them, support them, or have blackmailed them. Now that that is all gone in an instant RWers are scrambling to know what to do next.

[Scrivener7]

14. Mitch has been looking more nauseous than usual lately.

[lonely bird]

17. Well, he certainly makes other people more nauseous

[c-rational]

30. Maybe that has to do with the Kentucky Public Schools which invested in the Russia stock market.

As I understand, it is now down 80%. Yet the teachers in Kentucky do not seem to make the connection to their bad luck and Mitch's political ties.

[Scrivener7]

32. KY teacher's pension says they sold their Sberbank shares before the invasion.

[RussBLib]

35. but the California pensioners might not be so lucky

has still to be verified, but I think CalPERS had even higher exposure than KY did.

[Scrivener7]

36. Yeah. Seems like this is going to take a while to shake out the correct information.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

54. As of last week they still own a bunch of Lukoil which was down 90%. n/t

[Scrivener7]

59. Yikes.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

61. I'm thinking the Pentagon should buy it from them.

And maybe buy up the rest of Lukoil as well.
And burn it down to collect the insurance.
They could hire trump to do it. He's good at running things into the ground and going bankrupt.
The only question is: would we ever really pay trump for doing that job?

[uponit7771]

55. +1, I've been screaming for years about MAGA Media messages flooding message zones and

... this is how they do it.

Just damn, I'm convinced of this now

[Wounded Bear]

13. The power of bots...

[Alice Kramden]

16. Good to see the numbers

However I was not wondering, I knew it in my gut

[Achilleaze]

18. Republican traitor trolls suck

bigly

[LakeArenal]

20. FB during Hillary's campaign? Who thought all that was real people.

The toxicity is like honey-glazed poop to so many people.

[58Sunliner]

21. I'm surprised and I shouldn't be.TY.

[Scrivener7]

23. I'm sorry, but it is the responsibility of Facebook and Twitter to prevent this kind of

thing, and if they can't do it, they should be made to cease operation.

They nearly destroyed us. And when this is over, they will go right back to business as usual.

The sad thing is, there is no will to force them to take care of their own backyard because people would mistake the inconvenience of not having the platforms as a hardship and would freak out.

Meanwhile, the behavior of the platforms, if not cleaned up, will inevitably lead to some REAL hardship.

[uponit7771]

56. +1,

[BigmanPigman]

82. Hear, hear!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

24. K&R!!

Kicking it again, and I'd recommend it multiple times if I could!

[H2O Man]

28. Recommended.

They are even found on internet boxing forums, in reaction to the four world champions who are there fighting the Good Fight.

[demmiblue]

29. I don't think that makes as much of an impact as one would think. Here is yesterday's:

1. Breitbart
2. NPR
3. Ben Shapiro
4. Reuters
5. Sean Hannity
6. TWICE
7. Fox News
8. Ellen DeGeneres
9. New York Post
10. Franklin Graham

Link to tweet

And the day before (Kanye was trending due to his vile music video, hence TMZ. And Occupy Democrats are spammers):

1. Dan Bongino
2. Steven Crowder
3. Occupy Democrats
4. TMZ
5. Occupy Democrats
6. Occupy Democrats
7. TMZ
8. Occupy Democrats
9. TMZ
10. TMZ

Link to tweet

[onecaliberal]

33. Not surprised at all.

[eShirl]

37. Does this mean I'll stop seeing those fucking Franklin Graham TV ads?

I hope so.

[PatrickforB]

39. Well, it isn't just Facebook, or Meta, either.

I was on The Hill the other day, and read an article about how the Cherokee Tribes are working to get a delegate into the House of Representatives.

I think this is a great idea, as in 'about time!' and posted to that effect.

And I got nailed. So many racial slurs, racist comments, stereotypes it wasn't even funny.

Most were one liners with no real content.

They were likely all trolls, with maybe only a couple of actual Americans in there.

The point is, these dirt bags get paid by Putin, Xi and other strongmen dictators to stir up our pot.

[demmiblue]

40. Today's Top 10:

1. Ben Shapiro
2. Ben Shapiro
3. Franklin Graham
4. Delish
5. Daily Wire
6. Dan Bongino
7. Fox News
8. TMZ
9. ComicBook. com
10. Business Insider

Link to tweet

[yaesu]

41. If you get enough russian bots you can even make pigs fly, nt

[Shipwack]

42. Very interesting, but one thing doesn't make sense...

One of the things that keep me from believing this 100% is that -if- the right wing posts popularity is due to Russian troll farms (which I agree are a real thing), wouldn’t the Russian government make an exception to the ban for their own operations? 🧐

[XacerbatedDem]

44. They could be banning facebook to the public, but letting the gov do what they want.

[uponit7771]

63. Cutting FACEBook off from Russia would be indiscriminate at first, like blocking FB from every ...

... getting past certain network points.

[twodogsbarking]

45. Gee, that doesn't happen it the US, does it?

[Botany]

46. In the summer of 2019 facebook (russian) posts got a bunch of mouth breathing racist a-holes to ...

... turn out at a monument to the brave sons of the Confederacy in the town of Brandenberg, KY
on the banks of the OH River because a barge load of BLM/ANTIFA people were coming down the
OH River from Cincinnati to attack the statue.

BTW the city of Louisville & the University of Louisville gave the 2nd place trophy to Brandenberg,KY
because they didn't want the damn thing.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/hundreds-gather-in-brandenburg-kentucky-to-protect-confederate-monument-from-potential-vandalism/article_66f0a248-ad15-11ea-b82f-33b35a7a6dde.html

[ret5hd]

47. Night and day.

Hey Facebook…tell us you’re an enabler without saying you’re an enabler.

[TeamProg]

49. That is really something, wow.

[Budi]

50. Will be interesting to see if there's a sudden drop in "Unitemized Donor" campaign contributions

Multiple donations kept just under the reportable amount, like $27, $5, $3, under $200 I believe, are listed as Unitemized Donations, & the FEC doesn't look at them.
The use of bot or stolen names (STRIPE credit card processing Peter Thiel) & prepurchased cards loaded & set to repeat small donations monthly, is now a known fact in tracing campaigns & PACS that suddenly have an astonishing amount of those "Unitemized Donors", to avoid revealing who they are from.

Will have to watch how this affects the foreign flow of campaign funding.

Btw. Facebook also has an app where one can donate to a candidate. Its in the candidate's campaign ad.
Like paypal but Facebook for Political donors.
And if one keeps their multiple donations under the limit, FEC simply lists those as Unitemized Donations & doesn't look at where or how often that low $ donation is from.

[reACTIONary]

51. This isn't a credible analysis...

... Russian FB trolls don't log in from Russia. And bot nets are located all over the world. Dropping Russian access to FB does not stop Russian trolls.

It might stop Russian resistance from being able to organize.

[C Moon]

53. That's insane!!

[calimary]

60. No shit.

[uponit7771]

64. I've been screaming for years about GQP flooding message zones I didn't think Facebook would

... allow them to do it through their medium.

Face book execs ... ***HAVE*** ... to know about this and are doing little to nothing about it

Fuck them

[Hekate]

58. Fascinating...

…said Mr. Spock

[malaise]

80. More like scary n/t

[Hekate]

81. Very scary. The majority of us voted for Democratic presidential candidates. We keep getting GOPers

I needn’t go on. But when I read stuff like this I am reminded that we are still screwed.

[Dawson Leery]

65. kick

The entire right wing in a racket.

[Johnny2X2X]

66. Republicans haven't ran without Russian bot support for years

Can they win without an army of Russian boys and trolls pushing for them non stop on social media?

[Celerity]

73. the latest update shows that tweet to not only be off, but also failing to understand simple logical

cause and effect.

Russian is blocking its OWN people from reading Facebook in Russia. It is not blocking its own cyber trolls from reaching out into the West's social media.

Link to tweet

[Hav]

79. Yeah, your and demmiblue's Post show that the Initial claim

was mostly bs based on a snapshot in time.
Too many want to believe that these rightwing figures don't have an insane reach and following.

[gldstwmn]

74. This is what got Trump elected and divided our country. It's hard to believe I know.

While their battlefield ops seem quite a mess disinformation and propaganda is something Putin is very good at.

[AJH032]

76. The Russian troll farm is out in full force

Need only look at the @POTUS Instagram account to see.

[czarjak]

78. The Big Tell: "Russia, if you're listening"

[UCmeNdc]

83. K&R