US and Poland currently working on a deal on MIGs for Ukraine

[JoanofArgh]

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BREAKING:

Financial Times just confirmed that Poland and USA are still working on a deal that would see Poland donate its 28 MiG 29s to Ukraine and receive compensation from the U.S. in the form of used F-16s.

There is no time to spare! Do it tomorrow!

[dsc]

1. I am not enough of an expert to know

is that a good deal for Poland? Would our used F 16s be as good as or better than the MiG 29s. I assume Poland can fly them or we would teach them to fly them.

[JoanofArgh]

5. I googled . Sounds like F-16's are better.

Zelensky specifically asked for old Soviet planes , for some reason. he's getting what he wants.



Below 200 knots, the MiG-29 has incredible nose-pointing capability down to below 100 knots. The F-16, however, enjoys an advantage in the 200 knot-plus regime. At higher speeds, we can power above them to go to the vertical. And our turn rate is significantly better. By being patient and by keeping airspeed up around 325 knots, an F-16 can bring the MiG-29 to its nose. But the pilot must still be careful of the across-the-circle shot with that helmet-mounted display.”

McCoy and other two USAF pilots had the chance to fly in German Fulcrums and they explained some of the several limitations of the MiG-29. “Their visibility is not that good, their disadvantage is a real advantage for us. F-16 pilots sit high in the cockpit. All the MiG-29 pilots who sat in our cockpit wanted to look around with the canopy closed. They were impressed that they could turn around and look at the tail and even see the engine can. Besides visibility, I expected better turning performance, the MiG-29 is not a continuous nine-g machine like the F-16.”

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/f-16-vs-mig-29-when-the-mighty-viper-dogfighted-with-the-fulcrum-for-the-first-time/#:~:text=Below%20200%20knots%2C%20the%20MiG,turn%20rate%20is%20significantly%20better.

[Salviati]

10. The best plane is the one you know how to fly.

Ukraine uses MIG-29's and presumably has pilots who know how to fly them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force#Current_inventory

[Septua]

22. Bingo...

And the idea is not as simple as it sounds. One link from many.

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/is-poland-sending-fighter-jets-to-ukraine/

[uponit7771]

25. +1

[Brother Buzz]

11. Zelensky has a ready supply of veteran Mig-29 pilots pounding on his door....

"Put me in coach, I'm ready to fly, today"

[SheltieLover]

13. This!👆

[sprinkleeninow]

16. Yes! That! 👍

☮🌻🕊💙🇺🇦💛🕊🌻☮

"Slava Ukraini!" "Slava Na Viki!"

"Glory Be To Ukraine!" "Glory Be Forever!"

[SheltieLover]

17. ...

[COL Mustard]

18. Amen!!!

Get them in the game, ASAP!!!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[Kaleva]

8. The F-16 and Mig-29 are Generation 4 aircraft

They both were developed in the 1970's but are still considered capable aircraft.

[Walleye]

2. Get it done!

[monkeyman1]

19. why are they running there gum's about it ? DO IT !!

[Walleye]

21. Exactly!How hard can it be? Just fly the planes in

[ornotna]

3. This needs to happen ASAP n/t

[Bev54]

4. That is good because this is the type of aircraft they are trained on

To receive jets from US or Canada, they would need to train on, they are much diferent.

[PortTack]

6. Oh..GREAT news!! Thx for posting

[FakeNoose]

7. Wow! everybody wins ... except Pootie

[Hekate]

9. Good to know. And Gen. Millie was out there checking US donations of Javelins etc.

🌻

[Sunsky]

12. This is great news nt

[SheltieLover]

14. Do it!

[orangecrush]

15. Work faster.

[monkeyman1]

20. do it now & run a credit check later !

[mysteryowl]

23. Sounds good!

[raging moderate]

24. PS Happy Casimir Pulaski Day!

Hooray for Poland! Once again, Poland rises to the occasion!