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If an American man, 53 years old but a half marathon runner, with zero actual military experience but a really good shot with rifles, pistols and shotguns due to being raised in the rural south had about 5 grand in travel money and wanted to do everything he could to help the people of Ukraine, how would he go about it?
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)LonePirate
(13,419 posts)mucifer
(23,542 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,332 posts)whether being "a good shot" means they're prepared to kill another person when the time comes, and whether they have the support after it's all over to live with what they might do.
markie
(22,756 posts)someone here might have some real-life experience??
https://kyivindependent.com/national/want-to-help-ukraines-military-as-a-foreigner-heres-what-you-can-do/
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)it's exactly the type of info my friend needs.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)That's a long way to go to get shot at.
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)they are signing up volunteers and will give him documents that allow him to join the civil defense.
but... no combat experience... it's one thing to shoot at targets... it's quite another if the targets shoot back (not that I have ever been in that situation). I would think twice about going.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)Big difference I know but more than Sat at the range type stuff. My friend is not naive about the psychological implications of taking a human life and in fact that causes him more angst than the peril.
JI7
(89,248 posts)ForgedCrank
(1,779 posts)donate his 5K to any humanitarian relief he sees fit and be settled with the fact that there isn't anything else realistic that he can do.
If your "friend" heads over there to shoot at Russians, there's a good chance he's not coming back.
Maybe not a popular thing to say here, but that's going to be the final outcome if this thing isn't settled soon through diplomacy or concessions.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,839 posts)triple check
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,839 posts)I suggest a physical.
and ask a physical therapist on how to avoid muscle issues. i have a torn or inflammation muscle which still bugs me after 14 years.
Socks.
Foot pads.
plastic bags, including a few zip locs
20 feet of thin rope (laundry drying).
a roll of good fishing line. washers to make ends for fishing line.
vitamins: magnesium, zinc, D, C
a knife, a scissors
leather jacket
hooded sweatshirt
a large yellow handkerchief
dictionary
extra battery source
you may need to buy a new phone battery charger or 2
map
binoculars
get a crash course on infantry tactics from National Guards
crash course on first aid
ear plugs
double check everything here with the Guard officer
some gestures are a bit different in some countries. example in egypt, the gesture for finished as i am shopping or getting my booster shot
vaccines
dusseldorf airport is common for transfers. like a bowl of spaghetti. not too logical
laminated copy of passports, email, du password, phone numbers
copy of vaccines including corona
pcr test probably
rain, snow , cold
patience
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)already owns virtually everything in that list. Obviously it would cost money to fly it to Europe
Tetrachloride
(7,839 posts)make sure to read my previous post
i am mainly brainstorming. i dont have too much useful experience
if you go, better than me.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)but they are good thoughts from a good place. My friend thanks you
Bev54
(10,051 posts)They have people helping and provide a lot of information to others. Here is also a recent article about how to go about it:
https://kyivindependent.com/national/to-combat-russia-ukraine-invites-foreign-fighters-heres-how-to-apply/
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)Journeyman
(15,031 posts)for their comrades. Lives can be put in danger by both ill-formed decisions on the field and the need for others to attempt unforeseen rescues.
That said, every hand is welcome in an ass kicking competition, and wiser heads on the field can always find useful positions for all. Good luck, friend.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)Goonch
(3,607 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)If not, communicating with Ukrainians will probably be a huge issue.
So yeah, sending that money to some other organization would be a better choice.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)but a fast learner
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)If he arrives not knowing word one of Ukrainian, he will be very handicapped. Plus, of course, their alphabet is a Cyrillic one, not the Roman alphabet we use here.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)"pimslure course"? I'm guessing some sort of online language thing, and if he can take six weeks and actually becomes semi-fluent, that would be good. But honestly, a 53 year old is simply not going to learn a brand new language easily, or well. Trust me, I've been there at that age.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)programs. However it wouldn't teach one to read or write the target language.
yagotme
(2,919 posts)First would be easier to learn, but where is Ukraine going to be in 6 weeks? Decisions, decisions....
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)of course. But immersion is the best language learning tool so I'm guessing six weeks in Ukraine will be much more instructive
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)Someone is not being realistic here.
MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)Keeping him?
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)Please elaborate.
MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)To every possible scenario mentioned, you already have a solution to all the suggestions... Why do I need to elaborate? You even have a crash course in Ukrainian planned.
prodigitalson
(2,410 posts)sorry
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Whether used or not, it inject $5k into Ukraine directly without siphoning off money to airlines, intermediate hotels, Polish taxi drivers, etc.