Unless Meat Loaf said something nasty about Obama, I can't stop liking him.

[RandySF]

Look, we all have to accept that Obama was never going to get 100% of the vote. Clint Eastwood was off his rocker at the convention, but I can't stop liking him as a person or an actor. Same goes with Meat Loaf. He gave us one of the greatest rock albums of all time, and as far I know he's not an asshole. So unless he said something at the Romney event that disqualifies him as a person, I won't stop liking him or his music over an endorsement.

[hfojvt]

1. I want him. I need him

but there ain't no way I am every gonna love him.

He shouldn't be sad though, because two out of three ain't bad.

[Lex]

2. Okay, that's cool, but this thread is interesting

about Meat Loaf:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021645308

[Freddie]

3. I would do anything for love, but I won't do that

That = vote for Mitt!
Sorry, Mr. Loaf

[TwilightGardener]

4. "He gave us one of the greatest rock albums"--uh...

no. Unless you like camp and cheese. Or cheesy camp.

[progressivebydesign]

6. Yeah.. not even CLOSE to rock or the greatest rock album.

i put him in the category of the Pina Colada song guy.

[TwilightGardener]

8. Yeah--or Tom Jones.

[chaska]

22. Listen more carefully to Tom Jones....

Sure he's done some schlock, but he really is one hell of a singer. I found some old TJ LPs at a thrift store and was absolutely floored at some of the stuff he did back in the sixties.

[TwilightGardener]

24. I'm not criticizing his singing voice. He's a fine singer.

I just don't like anything he's ever sung. Edit to add: I generally do not like pop music, or pop singers like Jones, Neil Diamond, Barry Manilow, etc.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. For His Genre Tom Jones Was Near The Top

Can you say Meat Loaf was at the top of his genre.

[yardwork]

33. Like Meatloaf, good singing voice, bad taste in music.

[glacierbay]

18. In my opinion

best rock album ever.



Best live album ever, IMHO.


Pink Floyd's Pulse album, has the whole Dark Side of the Moon live. Great album.

[mattclearing]

61. Not even the best live Floyd album

That would be

With a nod to

[obamanut2012]

10. +1

[progressivebydesign]

5. Never liked him, he's a clown. Not a major figure in music, not even close.

His political views smack of someone who is inherently stupid, or has damaged his brain from drugs and alcohol. What is there to LIKE about the guy? Has he done a ton of charity work? Is he contributing to the world? I never liked his music, never will.

He chose romney because of "the cold war." Yeah.. okayyyy.

[chaska]

23. I agree.

Music that bad has to come from a republican. Witness Ted Nugent.

[dionysus]

7. i'm sorry you like Meatloaf

[obamanut2012]

9. He, along with John Rich the homophobe, is a Trump BFF

That, along with his embracing of a disgustingly anti women, anti LGBT, pro racist, pro theocratic candidate is enough said.

Why does he get a pass and not Ted Nugent? Hell, that fool Lindsay Lohan got more grief for endorsing Romney on her her than you're giving Meatloaf.

[yardwork]

34. It is interesting to see this kind of patriarchy in action.

"I dunno, I just like the guy." Conveniently ignoring that he is supporting the worst platform of our lives.

[obamanut2012]

37. You got it, Yardie

And, that's exactly what it is, too.

[glacierbay]

42. I see

so we can't like his music because his politics suck?

[yardwork]

43. The OP's exact words are "I can't stop liking him."

The OP expressed a personal like for the person, not just the music.

The music's bad too, but that is a different issue.

[glacierbay]

48. I can't argue that his music sucks

and so do his movies, Black Dog, with Patrick Swayze really was awful.

[gordianot]

11. He had one good album and great commercial but have no remorse like Christie for Boss.

Can you imagine the disappointment Christie feels by being constantly shunned by Springsteen?

[AtomicKitten]

12. Well his last performance was pretty entertaining.

[MjolnirTime]

13. That escapade with Romney the other day was good for us. Thanks, Mr. Loaf!

[datasuspect]

14. a guy like meatloaf hits the state fair circuit

and basically has to tour places like beaumont texas or bumfuck USA and take shitty roles in movies to pay the bills.

his days of packing arenas (was he ever at that level?) are long gone.

the hundred thousandaire checks GOP operatives stroke for him are like manna from heaven for a deplorable has been.

[mythology]

55. Given that Bat out of Hell is in the top 10 most sold albums, yes he was

And Bat out of Hell 2 went to number 1 in 28 countries. He still sells well in Europe, especially England.

Getting to the top once is hard, doing in two different eras is even harder. Yes it helped that Jim Steinman wrote those two albums, it's not like Jim Steinman's had a string of hits without Meatloaf.

I find it funny that so many people rush to hate anybody who supports Republicans and be seen as the most pure and fervent in their disdain. I can't get that worked up over who somebody else votes for. I have no problem watching Braveheart even though Mel Gibson is pretty clearly anti-Semitic. Likewise I don't buy the Black-Eyed Peas music even though they support Obama but that's because I happen to not like their music.

But let's say that Meatloaf had never had a really popular hit song at all. Are we really so shallow that we are reduced to looking at current music sales to provide validation that we're supporting the right candidate?

[datasuspect]

66. who is "we?"

it's the same reason the guy from SNL does cut rate insurance commercials.

they aren't relevant, except maybe in the way that seeing the current lineup of .38 special is relevant.

they pass checks out to b and c listers left and right nowadays. it's cheap to book them.

[Melinda]

15. Coincidence that Ann Rmoney made 'Meat Loaf" cakes on Rachael Ray?

I don't think so.....

Like his music, okay LOVED (still love) Bat out of Hell, can't stand his political choice this year. Plus, he's apparently trying to commit voter fraud: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/meat-loaf-voter-fraud-687451

Yup, he's gotta be a republican!

[DollarBillHines]

16. He was a label product, pure and simple.

Epic was shopping that tool all over the globe.

Epic shaped him, his back-story/image and his style.

They were wining and dining every critic in the country.

Epic knew that enough people would buy in and they would sell a ton of records.

Nothing wrong with that, it happens with great regularity today. There just aren't as many critics and the labels simply write their own press.

[larwdem]

17. hay

I like meatloaf too but only with mashed potato's

[datasuspect]

19. i like him better as the man with tits

in fight club.

[Starry Messenger]

20. Cool story bro.

[dems_rightnow]

21. I like Meat Loaf

Love Springsteen and Eastwood. Like Alec Baldwin and "Frasier". Didn't like Dixie Chicks.

All for reasons that have nothing to do with their politics.

[beac]

25. Endorsing Romney is about the nastiest thing I can think

of any American doing right now. And then there's the voter fraud.

Meatloaf is a vile, has-been POS potential felon. Selfish, ignorant pricks like him are what's wrong with this country.

[Cha]

59. Thanks for the Shot of Reality, beac! nm

[beac]

65. I'd rather have had the OP say "I still like his MUSIC but the man is an ass."

I have the same problem w/Eastwood-- some may still think he has talent, but how anyone can "like" him anymore is beyond me.

I just can't give people the "benefit of the doubt" based on their artistic product. How you behave in your day to day life will be the basis of my opinion of you.

[Cha]

67. Totally Agree! Our lives and are Country & Planet Earth

are too Important to give these mittloafs any quarter.

[HangOnKids]

68. Okay I Always Liked You

"How you behave in your day to day life will be the basis of my opinion of you." It's official, I LURVE you.

[WinkyDink]

26. What is it you "like" about Clint "as a person"? That he was vile to Sondra Locke? His 7 kids by 5

women?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Eastwood#Relationships

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. " He gave us one of the greatest rock albums of all time..."

ROFLCOPTER

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531

[dems_rightnow]

29. Well, it's 343 on that list

And #7 in all-time sales. I'd not call it great, but there's no mistaking "immensely popular".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. I Think The 343 And 7 Illustrate The Chasm Between Popular And Critical Acclaim

Let's just say Meat Loaf is not to his genre what JayZ and The Boss are to theirs.

[obamanut2012]

35. "Sugar, Sugar" by The Archies was the #1 song of 1969

And sold over six million copies.

And, that's just one song of quite a few LPs they put out. And that wasn't even a REAL BAND, but a cartoon.

[Spazito]

38. LOL and very true!

[yardwork]

44. Actually a kickass song and played by real musicians.

Bubblegum rock is a legitimate genre, and I like Sugar Sugar more than anything Meatloaf published.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. Me too.

Sugar Sugar is a classic.

[dems_rightnow]

46. Names you probably know

Produced and sang that tune. It's an interesting story.

[obamanut2012]

54. I know the background

It's still not a "real" band.

[MicaelS]

30. I have loved Bat Out of Hell I and II ever since they came out.

I'm to going to stop liking either one because Meatloaf has expressed political views I don't like.

I still love Clint Eastwood's films, both his work as both actor and director. I regard The Good, the Bad and the Ugly as the best Western ever made. Even surpassing the work of John Ford.

I'm fully capable of separating an artist's work from his / her politics.

[Spazito]

31. Well, just don't hide his paint stuff or else...

[obamanut2012]

39. I saw that episode, and when you make Gary Busey seem rational and sane

You're in trouble. Meatloaf has some huge anger issues.

[Spazito]

40. Yes, I agree and when you combine this with his bizarre appearance with Romney...

the man definitely has some major issues, I hope he seeks help for his own sake.

[obamanut2012]

56. A Republican relative supporting Romney sent me this on Facebook today

"Y'all can have Meatloaf and give us Katy Perry. I hate her music, but at least she isn't bonko."

[Spazito]

58. LOL!

Now if only your relative would go one step further and recognize Romney and Meatloaf have much in common when it comes to "bonko"!

[obamanut2012]

60. lol

[pinboy3niner]

63. Tell him Katy has a ballot for him

She took the liberty of filling it out.

[obamanut2012]

69. lol

[Son of Gob]

41. Here's the full scene

[randome]

36. Never put an artist on a pedestal.

I agree with you -for its time, Bat Out Of Hell was a great album. Those who don't think so now aren't seeing the picture for how it was received then.

Eastwood's westerns are my all-time favorite.

Neither Eastwood nor Meat Loaf have any sort of 'pull' over me, though. The person should forever be separate from the body of work.

In fact, I'd say it's a safe bet to not even bother to learn about an artist's personal life or opinions.

[lunamagica]

45. Eh, I have no opinion on Meatloaf. Eastwood, I never liked as a person. (what's there to like?) but

the so called Spaghetti Westerns are some of my favorite movies.

[pinboy3niner]

47. Mmmmmm, spaghetti!

And Ennio Morricone.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. Yuck. One decent song in a long over rated career.

Wasn't a fan before he got drunk and sang to Romney. And I'm sure not a fan now.

[zbdent]

51. apparently, Meat Loaf WOULD do that

and it probably wasn't for "love" ...

Or, at least, he "would do that" for Mitt ...

[KharmaTrain]

52. The Genius Of Bat Out Of Hell Was Tood Rundgren...

He produced the album and his band, Utopia, appear all over the thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Out_of_Hell

Todd Rundgren, however, found the album hilarious, thinking that it was a parody of Springsteen.[13] The singer quotes him as saying: "I've got to do this album. It's just so out there." They told the producer that they had previously been signed to RCA.[8] In one 1989 interview with Classic Rock magazine, Steinman labeled him "the only genuine genius I've ever worked with."[6] In a 1989 interview with Redbeard for the In the Studio with Redbeard episode on the making of the album, Meat Loaf revealed that Jimmy Iovine and Andy Johns were potential candidates for producing Bat Out of Hell before being rejected by Meat and Steinman in favor of Rundgren, who Meat initially found cocky but grew to like.

[SomethingFishy]

53. Shhhh you might interrupt the

"Meatloaf for dinner" crowd.


Yeah it was a stupid endorsement. I'm not going to chuck my copy of Bat just because of one guy. At the time the album came out no one had heard anything like it before. Like Dark Side of The Moon, everyone and everything fell into place at the right time. It was the right writer with the right producer, the right singer, the right musicians and the right engineer all in the right place at the right time.

If I found out the woman who sang "Great Gig In The Sky&quot Clair Torrey) was a Republican I sure wouldn't let it cloud my judgement of DSOTM.

[krawhitham]

64. I completely disagree

Jim Steinman was the Genius Of Bat Out Of Hell, and the Genius Of Bat Out Of Hell II

Bat Out Of Hell II sold more copies and won a Grammy, Jim Steinman wrote and produced the 2nd album

Bat Out Of Hell III bombed horrible because Jim Steinman was not involved. Yes Meat did cover some of Jim's songs (seven), but Jim was not involved in the making of the album

Bat Out Of Hell I sold 14 million copies
Bat Out Of Hell II sold 20 million copies
Bat Out Of Hell III sold 500,000 copies

That said Jim Steinman never had more success than when he was teamed with Mr Aday

[GoneOffShore]

57. If I liked his stuff, I might care. Otherwise, this makes no difference.

On the other hand, I kind of used to respect Eastwood. Not so much over the past few years.

YMMV as the saying goes.

[forestpath]

62. He's trying to help Romney get ELECTED. Don't see how anyone here could still like him.