If these # of Russian dead are correct it shows that if you are a Russian soldier you have a ...

[Botany]

.... 5.5% chance of dying if you get sent to Ukriane.

11,000 kia/200,000 # of Russian troops = .55 = 5.5%



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Thanx to DUer AntiFascist for posting this: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142884076

Another Russian general, Andrei Sukhovetsky, also a deputy commander of the 41st army, was reported killed at the end of February.

Ukraine says its forces have killed more than 11,000 Russian troops. Russia has confirmed about 500 losses.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-07/second-russian-general-killed-in-war-ukraine-says

[Sherman A1]

1. I would not be in a hurry to accept the numbers given by either side or

To formulate hypothesis based upon them l

[Botany]

2. I agree .... that is why I put down "if these #s are correct"

But it does go to show you if are a Russian soldier sent to the war in Ukriane you have
a really good chance of dying or being wounded. A Russian or a group of Russians need
to take out Putin and end the madness and the Russian troops need to revolt too.

[Sherman A1]

3. Anyone going to a war zone has an increased chance of becoming a statistic

I’m not sure if the percentages indicated are higher or lower than other conflicts. I’m sure that information is available somewhere on the internet but I really haven’t looked for it.

There are many factors in play at this point both on and off the battlefield which will affect both individual and unit morale and cohesion. Time will tell.

[COL Mustard]

5. But you know the Russian number is too low

They were claiming 498 KIA recently. I think they've lost that many in a day. It's a horrific loss rate for those conscripts, and there's no way for the Russians to keep that hidden. The troops apparently are able to call home and report on the situation.

[Botany]

6. "truth is the first casualty of war quote"

All I know that as long as there is one Russian soldier or one Russian pilot or one Russian sailor in, off
shore, or above Ukriane I want them to either surrender, quit, or be dead.

Long Live Anastasiia Yalanskaya Ani stas sheeya Yalan sky-a



As Russian troops closed in on the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, Anastasiia Yalanskaya insisted she would stay, even while her friends and family fled around her.

The 26-year-old Ukrainian woman was delivering food to a dog shelter in Bucha, 30 kilometres outside Kyiv, on Friday when she was shot and killed alongside two men she had been volunteering with.

Yalanskaya’s friends and family say her car was deliberately targeted at close-range by Russian troops. Global News has been unable to confirm the circumstances of her death.

On Tuesday, she wrote about helping a kindergarten in Brovary, just outside Kyiv, where 40 children were without food and diapers, as well as bringing aid to a military hospital and bringing food for volunteer dogs.

In the preceding days, she chronicled her volunteer work and spoke of her talks with the Ukrainian Armed Forces at checkpoints, saying she was proud of being Ukrainian “for the first time in my life.”



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Anastasiia Yalanskaya

I can't even pronounce her name but I will learn to pronounce it because the world needs to hear her story.


https://globalnews.ca/news/8661361/volunteer-death-kyiv-ukraine/

[Tomconroy]

4. It does seem too high. I think there are usually 2 or 3 times

wounded in any conflict as dead. That would make total casualties 30 to 40 thousand.

[jcgoldie]

7. I love the flower thing

Everyday I read something from Ukraine that makes me love those people more. Fucking badass.

[Johnny2X2X]

8. US estimates 4,500 Russian troops killed

But not that number is given with low confidence.

I know it sounds crass, but the hardware losses mean more to the Russians than the loss of life. If they've really lost several hundred vehicles/aircraft/tanks it's an absolutely devastating number to their military.

I think it's clear that Russia thought they'd take Kyiv in a few days, they probably sent their best people and best equipment in first, their best was largely decimated.

The whole key to this going forward though is logistics and supply lines. As long as supply lines into Kyiv stay open, Russia has no shot. If Ukraine can cut off Russian supply lines into the country Russian convoys are sitting ducks.

There are certainly people behind the scenes trying to think of what an off ramp looks like for Putin, he can't accept total defeat, so someone is going to have to come up with something for him that he can pretend is a win.

[Botany]

9. "What an off ramp looks like for Putin"

Some Russian or group of Russians need to do something about Vlad and his ability to breath

[Johnny2X2X]

10. That's not going to happen

And even if it did, Putin has people around him that are just as bad or worse than he is that will take over.

[mainer]

11. To that, add the number of wounded and captured

And your chances of returning unscathed anytime soon is even worse.

[uponit7771]

12. K&R, ... and the wounded are usually 5 to 10 times that much IE Putrids call for Syrian troops

[Irish_Dem]

13. Could these possible factors make the death numbers accurate?

I posted this on another thread. Could these factors contribute to the high Russian death count?

1. There was a video here a couple of days ago showing a young Russian solider, captured by the Ukrainians, on a phone call to this mother. He was telling her, very upset, that the Russian officers were killing injured RU troops in the field, not giving them medical care. He said the Ukrainian soldiers were being taken to the hospital.

Given the level of incompetence, and hubris of the Russians, I could see them not bringing field hospitals, medics, medical supplies. I don't know if the video is accurate, but I think it could be. This would mean more Russian deaths

2. Could there be Russian fragging? I mean both ways, officers killing low level troops and vice versa? Some here have suggested recent RU general deaths could be fragging.

We have heard rumors that the RU generals are angry with the way things are going, they are blaming the troops in the field. And as a way to motivate them Russian style, shooting some of them?

We can assume that Putin is putting his generals under a great deal of pressure. The Russians are notorious for their disregard for all life, including their own soldiers. The RU troops are probably angry about being lied to about the invasion, having no food, no fuel, being cold and tired by this time. Their paychecks are now worthless. Shooting the injured does not make for good morale either.

Generals, other officers, and troops with mutual high hostility in the field does make a good situation.