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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums#DragonBear Pushing Russia into even more dependence on China may not be exactly smart.
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True Dough
(17,305 posts)But the question remains, how can the rest of the world prevent Russia and China from doing more business?
Yorkie Mom
(16,420 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)I guess X has the brains? Putin has never been good looking but Russians, in general, seem to be very attractive people.
hunter
(38,316 posts)The situation will be similar to Germany after World War II. Russia's war machine will be dismantled, including its nuclear weapons.
Putin was a KGB officer in East Germany before and during the fall of the Berlin Wall. It's ironic that Putin's recklessness has likely precipitated a similar partitioning of Russia. Neither China or the West wants to govern Russia, but they do crave its natural resources.
The Ruble as it now exists will ultimately be worthless. It's propped up now by speculators who are betting that Russia will survive this crisis as a fully sovereign nation. Nevertheless both China and the West will insist on hard currency for business.
China may talk about supporting Russia but it doesn't seem likely they'll support the Ruble itself for the sake of any special relationship. Putin's recklessness and the overt corruption of Russia's oligarchy is bad for business.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Russia's issues are acute, China's are chronic.
We've talked about Russia plenty, enough said.
China's real estate bubble and market distortion, plus their overreliance on construction as a growth engine, will all take years to unwind. Not to mention the mess of their banking system and cooked books.
Yorkie Mom
(16,420 posts)Beijing is re-writing the Ukraine narrative
The Chinese government is scrubbing the countrys internet of sympathetic or accurate coverage of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and systematically amplifying pro-Putin talking points.
Why it matters: Chinas wide use of its propaganda and censorship muscle helps insulate Beijing from a domestic backlash against its support for Putin and leaves its citizens with an airbrushed, false version of events, similar to whats seen in Putins state-controlled Russia.
What's happening: Chinese media outlets were told to avoid posting "anything unfavorable to Russia or pro-Western" on their social media accounts, and to only use hashtags started by Chinese state media outlets, according to a leaked censorship directive.
*Online comments expressing sympathy for Ukraine have been deleted; even the anti-war speech given by the Paralympic Committee president during the Paralympics opening ceremonies was censored in Chinese television broadcasts.
*Pro-Putin social media posts on Chinese social media were allowed to proliferate, as were posts blaming the U.S. and NATO for the conflict.
*Chinese state media have widely aggregated content from Russian outlets including RT, a Russian state-controlled international broadcaster.
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"What we are documenting here is not how all Chinese people themselves think," Wu emphasized. "This is censorship and information control."
More: https://www.axios.com/beijings-ukraine-censorship-35a02a04-91b2-4efb-8a91-a9d111a2a3a0.html