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Russian Army using civilian trucks as transports now, yeah ... its that bad (Original Post) uponit7771 Mar 2022 OP
Don't count the chickens yet. Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #1
I wouldn't put too much stock sarisataka Mar 2022 #2
There is video of civilian trucks being shipped in on trains. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #3
Would those be akin to all the videos sarisataka Mar 2022 #5
Given that some Western intel sources are talking about this.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #6
+1, I agree with the one analyst on OSINT ... the conventional war looks like its lost to RA uponit7771 Mar 2022 #8
Maybe they stole them because the fuel tanks were full Walleye Mar 2022 #4
Saw a video last night if s Russian convoy that included civilian trucks Kaleva Mar 2022 #7

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
2. I wouldn't put too much stock
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:16 AM
Mar 2022

In this analysis.

IME even well supplied troops in combat will look for opportunities to have more equipment. I have, more than a few times, seen troops use "acquired" equipment.

Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
3. There is video of civilian trucks being shipped in on trains.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:28 AM
Mar 2022

Make no mistake, the Russian logistics operation is not doing well.

That does not mean they will not achieve a military victory from a sheer numbers advantage, but Russia is not doing well here.

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
5. Would those be akin to all the videos
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:00 PM
Mar 2022

Of Russian tanks and troops returning to garrison about two weeks ago? A video of trucks on a train merely confirms trucks can be moved by rail. A video of Russian troops unloading trucks from a train at an identifiable location in Ukraine tells me much more.

I wonder what would be the point of bringing in more trucks if fuel is a major problem? It would only result in increasing the supply shortage.

It is not surprising Russia is having logistics issues. Despite centuries of lessons, armies constantly underestimate the rate they will consume supplies. The Russian SOP of centralizing decision making would exacerbate the problem.

Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
6. Given that some Western intel sources are talking about this....
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:09 PM
Mar 2022

I am inclined to believe it. A lot of the problem are probably maintenance related, rather than direct combat losses. But there is certainly verified video of civilian trucks marked with the infamous "Z"

I respect skepticism, however. Ukraine is is most definitely engaging is a successful IW campaign and skepticism is warranted.

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