WTF Pentagon nixes Polish plan to give MiG's to Ukraine via Ramstein

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Jacqui Heinrich
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🚨Pentagon nixes Polish plan to give MiG’s to Ukraine via Ramstein:

“departing from a U.S./NATO base in Germany to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over Ukraine raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance…simply not clear there is substantive rationale.”
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4:06 PM · Mar 8, 2022

Work it the fuck out

[canuckledragger]

1. When did Rammstein get involved?

[Tomconroy]

2. OMG!

[LuckyCharms]

3. I don't get it? Are they concerned about transferring the planes from

Germany to Poland, or from Poland to the Ukraine?

[unblock]

7. Either they're confused or I'm confused

I thought the idea was Polish planes go to Ukraine, and separately, different US planes go to Poland.

US Planes going from Germany to Poland shouldn't be an issue.

Planes going from Poland to Ukraine shouldn't be a problem as long as the don't leave from a US/NATO airbase.

[LuckyCharms]

10. The Pentagon's concern might be having the planes leave from any NATO

country, period. It's not real clear in the write up. I share your confusion.

You are correct that the planes would leave from Poland, and then be replaced by the US, in Poland. But since Poland is a NATO country, they might be saying that the action would be an act of war by NATO?

[unblock]

13. I think the fear is that Russia would interpret it as an act of war

But Russia has already said that the sanctions are an act of war so what does it matter.

[unblock]

4. 30 minute layover at any Polish airfield. Problem solved.

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

5. Ramstein said no fucking way we want that shit dumped on us

[Trailrider1951]

6. The Germans probably don't want to be involved.

Perhaps they'll care when the Russians show up on their doorstep.

[bluestarone]

8. Evidently WE were not

involved in discussions? i'm sure WE would be involved in the war if WE gave planes to Poland? Not sure what's going on.

[world wide wally]

9. Your boss said it's okay

Right, Joe?

[C_U_L8R]

11. Putin's victory depends on our timidity.

This is breathtakingly shameful. We have to do SOMETHING to save all those people.

[SheltieLover]

12. Apparently, Poland decided to give them to US, rather than Ukraine

See #11 here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216458969

[bluewater]

14. wtf

[maxsolomon]

15. Makes sense if you want to keep the US/NATO out of direct action in Ukraine.

There will be a workaround found. Sounds like maybe Poland jumped the gun.

[bluewater]

17. Poland is a NATO country too.

[Happy Hoosier]

16. Jeebus! Grow a backbone!