Ukrainian official: Israeli PM Bennett told Zelensky he should take Putin's proposal to end war

[Nevilledog]

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Barak Ravid
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New: Israeli Prime Minister Bennett told Ukraine President Zelensky he should take Putin's proposal to end war, a senior Ukrainian official said. "Bennett wants us to surrender but we have no intention of doing this", he said. My story on @axios
Volodymyr Zelensky
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Ukrainian official: Bennett told Zelensky he should take Putin's proposal to end war
An official in the Israeli prime minster's office denies the claim.
10:15 AM · Mar 11, 2022

https://www.axios.com/russia-war-israel-bennett-zelensky-told-to-surrender-d5c53a0b-5940-4b09-85e4-ede244a2f5a1.html

A senior Ukrainian official said that Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday that he should take Russian President Vladimir Putin’s proposal for ending the war. An official in the Israeli Prime Minster's Office denies the claim.

Why it matters: Bennett has emerged as a key mediator between Putin and Zelensky in the last two weeks. Israel has said it needs to remain neutral in the mediation, but the Ukrainian official told Axios that Bennett must present proposals and do more than act as a "mailbox" between the two sides.

Driving the news: The senior Ukrainian official claimed Bennett initiated the call on Tuesday and recommended Zelensky take the offer.

Zelensky and his advisers didn’t like Bennett’s recommendation, according to the Ukrainian official.
"Bennett is basically telling us to surrender and we have no intention of doing that," the senior Ukrainian official said.

*snip*


Israel is denying this.

[Bettie]

1. So, the Israeli government

has decided to throw in with Putin?

[Wingus Dingus]

2. Way to help, Israel.

[Magoo48]

16. Why would they want advice from an apartheid state consumed with crushing Palestinians?

[Marius25]

21. Try learning what Apartheid means before making baseless accusations.

[Magoo48]

26. I know the definition of apartheid.

Apartheid refers to a political system where people are clearly divided based on race, gender, class or other such factors.

That shoe fits the Israeli System quite well, but we could use segregation if that’s less offensive.

[Marius25]

28. No, apartheid refers only to segregation on the basis of race.

That does not exist in Israel.

20% of Israelis are non-Jews, most of which are Arab Palestinians. There are Arabs on the Supreme Court, they have an entire political party in Parliament. They're under the same laws as Jews are.

How are they segregated? The Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank are not Israeli citizens. They elected their own governments, one of which is an actual terrorist group.

Why would they be protected by the same laws as the Palestinians who live in Israel?

[Magoo48]

29. The Wall--isolation, apartheid, segregation into ghettos, call it what you will. It's oppression.

[Marius25]

30. It's self-imposed oppression

by Palestinian leaders.

Do you really think Jews have no right to take their security seriously considering how often they're attacked?

Jews walking down the streets of Jerusalem have been stabbed multiple times in the past couple weeks by Palestinians.

Last week, a couple Palestinian teens were throwing bombs at Israelis.

Maybe if Palestinians didn't literally side with Hitler to exterminate Jews in the 1940s, and maybe if Palestinians didn't constantly launch terror attacks at Jews, and maybe if Palestinians didn't declare war on Jews multiple times, and maybe if Palestinians didn't literally elect a terrorist group as their government, Israel wouldn't need as much security as they have.

The State of Israel was literally created to protect Jews persecuted in the Holocaust, and all future Jews from persecution. Israel will do whatever it takes to make sure Jews are protected - that's why it exists.

Palestinians have officially stated their goal is to eradicate Israel and exterminate Jews. Why should Israel treat them like friends when they make those kinds of statements?

[Magoo48]

34. Right

[Behind the Aegis]

3. Uh-huh

[Crunchy Frog]

4. I read the same thing in Haaretz.

[dalton99a]

5. WTF.

[Pachamama]

6. There goes my hope & theory that Israel will come in and defend Ukraine against Russia

[Marius25]

20. They signed onto the UN resolution condemning Russia

and the Prime Minister is disputing he ever said this. He has not received any offer from Russia and has never told Zelensky to surrender.

[Pachamama]

23. Then it must be more Russian Disinformation Propaganda

Probably because Russia does fear Israel defending Ukraine…

[Marius25]

25. Israel also has to be more careful with Russia

because Russia is currently preventing Syria and Assad from arming Hezbollah who are conducting terrorist attacks on Israel, and Russia has part of their military stationed on Israel's northern border.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

7. Hmm...Would that have been good advice for Israel in the Six Day War? Masada?

Asking for myself...

[multigraincracker]

8. WTF

Hope this is wrong.

Hope he is never in the situation.

[Tomconroy]

9. I don't think there will be any serious negotiations if the Russians

keep advancing however slowly. If the Ukranians are ever able to launch a successful counter offensive on say the Kyiv front, then Putin will negotiate.

[Wingus Dingus]

11. Russia was demanding things like Ukraine change its constitution to

enshrine Russian demands, like demilitarizing. Fuck that shit.

[uponit7771]

12. NO!!! The second largest oil reserves in the EU are in those areas of UKR. Putrid isn't all the way

... stupid this was for oil because Russia's oil is becoming harder to get out of the ground.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/issue_papers/IP198.html

[Midnight Writer]

13. Russia is not negotiating in good faith. They have a record of saying one thing, doing another.

[dalton99a]

14. They don't even honor their written agreements

Lying snakes

[electric_blue68]

15. Oh, HELL NO! Shheeeesh, WTG PM Bennet! 🙄

Also some of the best wheat growing areas as well.

[Samrob]

17. I have been posting about Israel's deafening silence on Ukraine with few if any comments. Now I

know why. Trump sealed the deal with Bibi giving Israel everything they wanted at the time and since Trump was Putin's man, the corrupt triumvirate sealed Ukraine's fate. Go back and see if you can search out anything about Israel re Georgia, the Crimea and now Ukraine. It's a deal sealed around Syria and Israel's expansion in the occupied territories. Wait for it. Israel should be ashamed.

[questionseverything]

27. Israel should be ashamed and we should stop funding them

N/t

[Samrob]

18. Bottom line: Israel is no friend to Ukraine or Zelensky. nt

[Marius25]

19. This is being disputed by the PM's office.

https://www.axios.com/russia-war-israel-bennett-zelensky-told-to-surrender-d5c53a0b-5940-4b09-85e4-ede244a2f5a1.html

A senior official in the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office said that the details of the call as described the Ukrainian official were not true.

The Israeli official said Bennett didn’t recommend that Zelensky take Putin’s offer because Israel hasn’t received such an offer. “The prime minister doesn’t intend to give Zelensky any recommendations or advice at any stage," the official said.

[Nevilledog]

22. I included their denial in the OP

[OnDoutside]

24. Lol....

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. As an American Jew, this pisses me off

This is bad advice

[DemocraticPatriot]

32. I think there should be some negotiation...

but never accept the first offer, is a "rule of thumb", yes?


The Russian demands go way too far, but is a baseline to begin negotiations.

Personally, if they would settle for a Ukranian promise not to join NATO in the future, i could accept that--- of course the condtions are not up to me, or the US, but up to Ukraine....


the rest of the long list of demands by Russia go too far, of course...

[Dirty Socialist]

33. Nuts