Bennett advises Zelensky to surrender to Russia, Zelensky refuses

[LiberalArkie]

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksy that he recommends Ukraine take the offer made by Russian President Vladimir Putin to end the war - which includes many Ukrainian sacrifices - in a phone call on Tuesday, according to an official in Ukraine's government. According to the official, Zelenksy did not take Bennett's advice.

The source claimed that the phone call was initiated by Bennett. "If I were you, I would think about the lives of my people and take the offer," Bennett reportedly said.

Zelenksy's response was short. "I hear you," he said.

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https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-701041

[C_U_L8R]

1. That's terrible advice

Would Bennett apply that same strategy to his own country?

[roamer65]

22. No, he would use Israeli nukes.

[madaboutharry]

2. What bullshit.

The Israelis have never "surrendered" and never will. They have fought half a dozen wars in defiance against demands made by their Arab neighbors since 1948. So who is this person telling the Ukrainians to surrender? Israel has gotten too close to Russia.

Update: Apparently something was lost in translation. Another report states Israel is denying this was what was said. Ummm.

[nycbos]

7. If they surrendered they wouldn't exist.

[PortTack]

19. For for posting the update...hopefully the false claim gets shut down

[Aristus]

26. Do Russian-born Israelis outnumber Ukrainian-born Israelis?

That might explain it...

[BeyondGeography]

3. And there was this gem

The official also said that Israel asked Ukraine not to request more military and defense aid because such a request could harm the mediation efforts.

Mediator? More like court stenographer.

[Carlitos Brigante]

12. What a goddamn stooge. nt

[Hekate]

4. WHAT?!

🌻 🌻

[electric_blue68]

5. F U PM Bennet - sez this 2nd Gen half 🇺🇦 Ukrainian-American

[nycbos]

6. As a proud American Jew...

... this is profoundly disturbing.

The Prime Minister of Israel is advising the only other Jewish head of state in the world to lay down to fascism.

Hopefully a public address in Tel Aviv will inspire Israeli public opinion to the point where the PM pulls his head out of his ass.

[underpants]

8. Excellent point

[JohnSJ]

34. Interesting that Israel denies this

A senior Ukrainian official said that Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday that he should take Russian President Vladimir Putin’s proposal for ending the war. An official in the Israeli Prime Minster's Office denies the claim”

Driving the news: The senior Ukrainian official claimed Bennett initiated the call on Tuesday and recommended Zelensky take the offer.

Zelensky and his advisers didn’t like Bennett’s recommendation, according to the Ukrainian official.

"Bennett is basically telling us to surrender and we have no intention of doing that," the senior Ukrainian official said.

A senior official in the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office said that the details of the call as described the Ukrainian official were not true.

“We doubt that the official is a senior person that is in Ukraine now and who was on the call, because it was conducted on a private line. Our contacts are directly with President Zelensky and his close advisers," the official in the Prime Minister’s Office said.

The Israeli official said Bennett didn’t recommend that Zelensky take Putin’s offer because Israel hasn’t received such an offer. “The prime minister doesn’t intend to give Zelensky any recommendations or advice at any stage," the official said.

The Israeli official stressed the call between Zelensky and Bennett was good and long and included a discussion about the possibility of holding a mediation meeting in Jerusalem.

https://www.axios.com/russia-war-israel-bennett-zelensky-told-to-surrender-d5c53a0b-5940-4b09-85e4-ede244a2f5a1.html

[nycbos]

36. Okay.

Sooner or later we're going to find out who's telling the truth.

[JohnSJ]

38. I would think so. Anonymous source makes this suspect. Israel gets extensive aid from the U.S.,

not Russia, and Israel is very well aware that the U.S. would not want Ukraine to surrender to Putin, and if Bennett actually advised him to surrender to Putin, that would be very strange.

It definitely would be in Putin’s interest to plant something like this to try to cause division in the west

Who is this anonymous source? It would be nice if the reporter were this came from would confirm if this anonymous source was a verifiable Senior Ukrainian official, and that the reporter is a credible reporter

[Mike Nelson]

9. Huh?

... I'm at a loss, here. I can only say I admire Zelenksy's restraint... my reply might have been considered rude.

[Wingus Dingus]

10. It must have profoundly disappointed Zelensky to hear this, since he

had asked them to help mediate.

[Carlitos Brigante]

11. Meet the new boss, slightly less shitty than the old boss? nt

[anamnua]

13. I have lost a lot of respect for Israel. NT.

[BlueIdaho]

15. Me too... nt.

[tenderfoot]

14. I keep forgetting how nice Russians are to jews

Judging from comments my Russian Jewish tell me. All of whom left Russia during Glastnost because only Jewish people were allowed to leave.

[LiberalFighter]

16. Israel needs a new PM

[Deuxcents]

17. Maybe we should reconsider their allowance from us

Telling him to give in is something he would never do b/c we’d be at their side

[Behind the Aegis]

18. Uh huh.

Shame people don't see this for what it is.

[hlthe2b]

21. And what do you think THAT is?

As pointed out upstream, to have the Jewish PM of Israel tell the only other Jewish head of state of an independent country that they should surrender to a fascist megalomaniac is quite the story, in and of itself. What do you think we are missing?

[JohnSJ]

24. Why, Russia certainly wouldn't plant "false information" conveyed by an anonymous "Ukraine Senior

Official", would they?

Taking something like this as accurate on first blush, without further details, is a reckless thing to do, especially since the historical relationship between Russia and Israel was never that great.

Here is the problem though, every major Israeli Newspaper seems to be this story.

[hlthe2b]

29. I've seen nothing suggesting the Israelis are denying this story. Would you not think the denial

would be IMMEDIATE? Especially in Israeli media.

[JohnSJ]

31. That is why I noted the Israeli papers shared this same story. Still I would like to hear what

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Bennett has to say.

I also wonder why I haven’t seen this covered by the US media yet

I am not saying it is not true, but after the press did what they did to Hillary just based on Republican talking points, that is why I want to hear what Bennett says

More important why this story is so strange, Russia does not give aid to Israel, the U.S. does, and Israel knows perfectly well that the US would NOT want Ukraine to surrender and allow Putin to take over Ukraine with their puppet government.

It is bizarre at best, and it could be verified easily if we knew who this anonymous “senior Ukrainian official was”, zemensky confirmed it, or Bennett confirmed it

Also, Israel has denied this, but I find it interesting that is buried in the story:

A senior Ukrainian official said that Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday that he should take Russian President Vladimir Putin’s proposal for ending the war. An official in the Israeli Prime Minster's Office denies the claim”

Driving the news: The senior Ukrainian official claimed Bennett initiated the call on Tuesday and recommended Zelensky take the offer.

Zelensky and his advisers didn’t like Bennett’s recommendation, according to the Ukrainian official.

"Bennett is basically telling us to surrender and we have no intention of doing that," the senior Ukrainian official said.

A senior official in the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office said that the details of the call as described the Ukrainian official were not true.

“We doubt that the official is a senior person that is in Ukraine now and who was on the call, because it was conducted on a private line. Our contacts are directly with President Zelensky and his close advisers," the official in the Prime Minister’s Office said.

The Israeli official said Bennett didn’t recommend that Zelensky take Putin’s offer because Israel hasn’t received such an offer. “The prime minister doesn’t intend to give Zelensky any recommendations or advice at any stage," the official said.

The Israeli official stressed the call between Zelensky and Bennett was good and long and included a discussion about the possibility of holding a mediation meeting in Jerusalem.

https://www.axios.com/russia-war-israel-bennett-zelensky-told-to-surrender-d5c53a0b-5940-4b09-85e4-ede244a2f5a1.html

[hlthe2b]

20. This is going to blowback big time on Israel. Disgusting.

[JohnSJ]

23. Not sure I believe this. If true this begs the question, "Bennet, "would YOU recommend Israel

surrender to attacking Arab forces 'in order to save lives'?"

Just who is this unnamed "Ukraine Senior Official"?

While this could be accurate, I would also wonder if this is a putin disinformation ploy.

[yardwork]

25. I'm cautious about believing anything unverifiable in this war.

The Russians are notorious for planting false information. They invented fake news.

[JohnSJ]

27. I agree, but the problem is that every major Israeli Newspaper is pushing this narrative. From

Conservative to Liberal Israeli papers.

Of course that could mean they are all just repeating the same line from the same source.

The anonymous "Senior Ukrainian Official" as the source, makes this queestionable.

[JohnSJ]

28. I want to hear what Bennett says about this, not some anonymous "Senior Ukrainian Offical"

[tavernier]

32. The offer... oh yes...

If I were Naftali
Ya ba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dum
All day long, I'd biddy with the bum
If I hoped to be a wealthy man
I wouldn't have to work hard
Ya ba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dum
If I were a biddy biddy rich yidle-diddle-take his offer-man.

[JohnSJ]

33. Israel denies this

“ A senior Ukrainian official said that Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday that he should take Russian President Vladimir Putin’s proposal for ending the war. An official in the Israeli Prime Minster's Office denies the claim”

Driving the news: The senior Ukrainian official claimed Bennett initiated the call on Tuesday and recommended Zelensky take the offer.

Zelensky and his advisers didn’t like Bennett’s recommendation, according to the Ukrainian official.

"Bennett is basically telling us to surrender and we have no intention of doing that," the senior Ukrainian official said.

A senior official in the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office said that the details of the call as described the Ukrainian official were not true.

“We doubt that the official is a senior person that is in Ukraine now and who was on the call, because it was conducted on a private line. Our contacts are directly with President Zelensky and his close advisers," the official in the Prime Minister’s Office said.

The Israeli official said Bennett didn’t recommend that Zelensky take Putin’s offer because Israel hasn’t received such an offer. “The prime minister doesn’t intend to give Zelensky any recommendations or advice at any stage," the official said.

The Israeli official stressed the call between Zelensky and Bennett was good and long and included a discussion about the possibility of holding a mediation meeting in Jerusalem.

https://www.axios.com/russia-war-israel-bennett-zelensky-told-to-surrender-d5c53a0b-5940-4b09-85e4-ede244a2f5a1.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/ukrainian-official-bennett-told-zelensky-170608829.html

[MustLoveBeagles]

35. Thank you for posting this

[Cha]

37. Zelensky is thinking about the lives

of his People.. they don't want Putin Rule.

[uponit7771]

39. ***FALSE*** Israel response (link)

Link to tweet

[Grins]

40. "Israel! You are surrounded by people who hate you! Surrender!"

Now fuck off.

Back in the early 70’s I was on Israel’s side. Then bit by bit…No more.

[Renew Deal]

41. Would Bennett ever do that?

[AntiFascist]

42. Not going to happen...

we need to help Ukraine build its own iron dome.