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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:50 PM Oct 2012

Catholic Bishop: Democrats support evil, will go to hell

A Catholic Bishop is threatening his flock with eternal damnation if they support Barack Obama and the Democrats in November.

Bishop David Ricken of the Green Bay Catholic Diocese sent out a letter to his parishioners warning that voting for Democrats and President Barack Obama this November may be a one way ticket to hell.

In the letter, dated Wednesday, October 24, Bishop Ricken claims supporting a woman’s right to reproductive freedom (abortion); death with dignity (euthanasia); important scientific research (stem cell research); and marriage equality for gay and lesbian citizens are all "intrinsically evil."

http://www.examiner.com/article/catholic-bishop-democrats-support-evil-will-go-to-hell


I guess making life more difficult for the poor is alright with Bishop Ricken.

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Catholic Bishop: Democrats support evil, will go to hell (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Oct 2012 OP
And why is there a tax exemption for religious institutions? madaboutharry Oct 2012 #1
Bring hell on then, I'm ready. Curmudgeoness Oct 2012 #2
But I don't want to go to hell!! wendylaroux Oct 2012 #3
But all the cool people are there.......... panader0 Oct 2012 #5
True. wendylaroux Oct 2012 #6
Catholic Bishops="Intrinsically Evil" n/t CrazyOrangeCat Oct 2012 #4
Just for spite I would vote for Obama. Screw the church and the CEOs. They aren't southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #7
Tell him Mormon church is NOT pro-life. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #8
Send him to this link. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #17
Another prospect for Colbert's comedy tour, he's been doing shows with Dolan Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #9
Ok Bishop Ricken, you are responsible for your church loosing It's tax exempt status. You crunch60 Oct 2012 #10
Oh yeah. THAT'S why I left the Church.... Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #11
This from the folks who brought you the inquisition. OffWithTheirHeads Oct 2012 #12
fuck these ass holes and the sky king they adore... WCGreen Oct 2012 #13
I'd rather party with the sinners than cry with the saints Vincardog Oct 2012 #14
Welcome to the United Catholic States of America... Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #15
As if the pedophile scandal weren't bad enough. The catholic bishops seem intent on totally ... Jim__ Oct 2012 #16
This same bishop... Archae Oct 2012 #18
He used resources of the Church to tell his Diocese to vote against Democrats SteveG Oct 2012 #19
He's closely skirting by never mentioning Democrats or Obama by name n/t SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #24
I don't think this bishop knows what the definition of "evil" is derby378 Oct 2012 #20
Religious leaders trying to dictate how their constituents vote? Its Time We Wake Up Oct 2012 #21
Oh trust me it gets even worse dsc Oct 2012 #22
Fuck him SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #23
How Much Money Did The Catholic Church otohara Oct 2012 #25
meow2u3 to Bishop Ricken: Voter intimidation, even from the pulpit, is a Federal crime meow2u3 Oct 2012 #26
Where the fuck is the IRS??? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #27
sounds like a Nazi condemning German Jews fascisthunter Oct 2012 #28
Doesn't their own holy book Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #29
As a progressive (now estranged) Catholic, this is sad. nt bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #30
Says the organization of Pedophiles !!!!! RagAss Oct 2012 #31
But, but, but, Christianity is so mainstream and well accepted by society! quinnox Oct 2012 #32

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
2. Bring hell on then, I'm ready.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:52 PM
Oct 2012

Eternal damnation is better than what will happen if the Republicans rule.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
7. Just for spite I would vote for Obama. Screw the church and the CEOs. They aren't
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:01 PM
Oct 2012

going into the booth.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
8. Tell him Mormon church is NOT pro-life.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:03 PM
Oct 2012

also tell him the Bush held the House and the Senate until 2007 and NEVER even tried to outlaw abortions. They did however borrow a lot of money from China who was one of the worst human rights records including forced abortions and 7 MILLION little girls who were born, but strangely enough, are no longer here.


Fuck that noise. It is all lies. The Republicans care about money. The only use the social conservatives as their pawns.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
17. Send him to this link.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:35 PM
Oct 2012

Where it is noted that

Here are several facts which Catholics must face regarding Mitt Romney:

1. A vote for Mitt is a vote for a non-Christian. What we know as a hard fact about Mitt Romney is that he is not a Christian from the official standpoint of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church does not recognize the baptism of Mormons as valid.

2. A vote for Mitt is a vote for someone who does not believe that creation begins at conception. There is no wonder why Mitt is so weak on the Life issues. It is rooted in a bad theology, a non-Christian anthropology.


http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=45963&page=2
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Another prospect for Colbert's comedy tour, he's been doing shows with Dolan
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:03 PM
Oct 2012

and I am fairly sick of hearing him claim to support so many things that his faith and his fucking donated money oppose. Hypocrites.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
10. Ok Bishop Ricken, you are responsible for your church loosing It's tax exempt status. You
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:12 PM
Oct 2012

should be administering to the sick and poor and spreading the word of God.. not talking about Democrats and this election. Don't think God would approve of your sermon.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
13. fuck these ass holes and the sky king they adore...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

If they actually lived like Jesus then I might take the seriously, but since they are more interested in condeming instead of comforting the aflicted, I say fuck 'em...

Jim__

(15,222 posts)
16. As if the pedophile scandal weren't bad enough. The catholic bishops seem intent on totally ...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:23 PM
Oct 2012

... disgracing their church.

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
19. He used resources of the Church to tell his Diocese to vote against Democrats
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:43 PM
Oct 2012

The stationary is the official stationary of his Diocese. He is writing this in his official capacity as Bishop. I think this is a clear violation of the rules that allow his diocese to claim tax exempt status. This should be reported to the IRS.

derby378

(30,262 posts)
20. I don't think this bishop knows what the definition of "evil" is
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:55 PM
Oct 2012

If he did, he'd keep his big fat mouth shut.

21. Religious leaders trying to dictate how their constituents vote?
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oct 2012

America is getting worse. But as they say, its darkest before the dawn. As long as election fraud doesn't play a role, I think we have a good chance of seeing a new dawn. 12 million jobs in the next 4 years according to projections. That's just one of the issues heading the right way thanks to President Obama.

No time to turn back now. Irregardless of the garbage that is being dumped into the ears of conservatives.

dsc

(53,397 posts)
22. Oh trust me it gets even worse
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oct 2012
http://annfreespirit.over-blog.com/article-us-constitution-allows-bishops-to-transfer-and-conceal-pedophiles-108137785.html

In a stunning motion filed in an Appleton, Wisconsin court the Diocese of Green Bay has argued that bishops and religious officials who operate schools, churches, and youth centers can intentionally conceal and transfer clergy child molesters, even if found guilty of doing so by a jury.



The argument was made by lawyers for Green Bay Bishop David Ricken who are attempting to dismiss a May jury verdict which found the diocese guilty of fraud by intentionally concealing and transferring one of the state’s most prolific sex offender clerics, Fr. John Patrick Feeney.



Following the logic of the diocese argument, the US Constitution allows a bishop or religious official full civil immunity to secretly assign a cleric to a parish or school to work with children, even if that cleric has or is intending to commit child rape. When a bishop assigns a priest, according to the diocese, that does not mean the bishop believes the priest is safe to be around children.



And any decision a bishop makes about a cleric may “not be evaluated or explained” by courts because the First Amendment allows religious organizations to essentially do what they want and be accountable to no one.



In other words: According to the bishops of the Catholic Church, American religious liberty is for bishops, not children. The US Constitution does not protect children to freely worship and practice their faith from religious officials who put the protection of sex offender clerics over their safety.



And parents should never consider the priest assigned to their parish as “safe”. Why? Because if a bishop assigns a priest who has molested children to your parish, according to the diocese of Green Bay, he has a First Amendment right to commit fraud and lie to you about it.

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He is literally the scum of the earth.
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
25. How Much Money Did The Catholic Church
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:07 PM
Oct 2012

pay for the hell they put the many survivors of sexual abuse through?

meow2u3

(25,250 posts)
26. meow2u3 to Bishop Ricken: Voter intimidation, even from the pulpit, is a Federal crime
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:07 PM
Oct 2012

This is not only spiritual blackmail, it's the ultimate voter intimidation tactic - a cleric to threaten parishoners with eternal damnation for not voting for the bishop's preferred candidates. This bishop is far closer to hell than any woman seeking an abortion.

AFAIC, I'll rot in hell before I'll ever vote for a Republican, especially one who thinks the poor should die starved, sick, exposed to the elements, or at the hands of a criminal.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
29. Doesn't their own holy book
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:16 PM
Oct 2012

say that that's God's call and not man's? They ought to crack that sucker open every now and again.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
32. But, but, but, Christianity is so mainstream and well accepted by society!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:08 PM
Oct 2012

So that makes this ok, right?

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