Evangelical Silence Is Deafening

[blue-wave]

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Crickets, all I hear is crickets.

[czarjak]

1. Standing strong when you're wrong never lasts that long?

[SheltieLover]

2. Yup!

[brewens]

3. Busy this time of year grooming the little ones for church camp. n/t

[Wingus Dingus]

4. They're lost, they don't know what to think.

The GOP and allies are just in disarray, trying to find a path away from Pooty without angering his fanboys.

[Skittles]

5. deafening but not suprising

and OF COURSE they consider themselves "PRO-LIFE"

[dalton99a]

6. It's God's will. Let Putin do God's work

One of the most detailed alerts came from televangelist Pat Robertson, who came out of retirement on Feb. 28 to assert on “The 700 Club” that Russian President Vladimir Putin was “compelled by God” to invade Ukraine as a prelude to an eventual climactic battle in Israel. Robertson said verses of the Old Testament Book of Ezekiel support this scenario.

“You can say, well, Putin’s out of his mind. Yes, maybe so,” Robertson said. “But at the same time, he’s being compelled by God. He went into the Ukraine, but that wasn’t his goal. His goal was to move against Israel, ultimately.”

“It’s all there,” added Robertson, referring to Ezekiel. “And God is getting ready to do something amazing and that will be fulfilled.”

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-religion-baptist-74edf434be618f1552ce555f5bbb9cda

[KS Toronado]

19. WOW! There's one Evangelical who's come out in support of Russia

F**k the 7QQ club!
Thanks for the heads up.

[maxsolomon]

22. End Times horseshit.

He thinks this is part of God's plan to bring on the end of days.

“You can say, well, Putin’s out of his mind. Yes, maybe so, but at the same time, he’s being compelled by God.

He went into the Ukraine, but that wasn’t his goal.

His goal was to move against Israel, ultimately.

It’s all there, and God is getting ready to do something amazing and that will be fulfilled.”

[unweird]

38. Exactly Right, Evangelicals Praying for the Endtimes

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

48. I will read of Robertson's "End Times"

with satisfaction one day.

No surprise this dementia-ridden fossil supports Trump and Putin. Follow the money from the goofy supporters who watch this drivel.

[keithbvadu2]

55. PR says we have the power to raise the dead.

PR says we have the power to raise the dead.

Going to be interesting to see if his son resurrects him or if Gordan wants all the money for himself.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

90. Pat Robertson is so old he farts dust clouds.

[Ligyron]

69. All based on some obscure, conflicted writing no one really knows the author of.

Perfectly logical text to base a world view on.

[Grasswire2]

52. POMPEO, BARR, PRINCE....

Dominionists. All pushing for Armageddon to bring the rapture in their lifetime.

So Jesus will come back and rule the world with them for a thousand years.

Or not.

[ShazzieB]

54. Pat Robertson is (in)famous for this kind of crap.

Or, well, not exactly this kind of thing specifically, but he is famous for making all sorts of pronouncements where he "explains" current events based on his religious views. Like describing Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters as God's punishment for something or other, blaming 9/11 on America becoming too "liberal," and all kinds of other horrible stuff.

This article lists just a few of his "greatest hits": https://religiondispatches.org/as-pat-robertson-retires-here-are-10-of-his-most-cringeworthy-moments/

And this one focuses on his homophobic comments: https://www.glaad.org/gap/pat-robertson

All of which is just to say that something like this coming out of his mouth is right in character, and no more or less than what I would expect of him. He's nothing but a hateful, execrable piece of garbage.

[lonely bird]

68. I have noticed something I find interesting...

The evangelicals love themselves some Israel but…imo, they hate Jews. All of the so-called support for Israel is in no way related to the Jewish people themselves. Which also goes back to why they have no concern about Palestinians. It is entirely about a nihilistic, bloodthirsty desire for “end times” bullshit spouted by some first century BCE idiot.

[Rabrrrrrr]

75. Yes - they love Israel, hate the Jews (or at least are apathetic to them) - Israel is a tool to them

They only support it because in their twisted, toxic eschatology, they actually think that there's going to be the big war of Armageddon and tribulation and all that bullshit, and none of that can happen unless Israel exists as a country (in their thinking), so they will support Israel no matter what it does.

But in their twisted, toxic religious understanding, the Jews all die and go to hell, and these fake Christian assholes are absolutely fine with that because as far as they (the violent dumbshit scripture-twisting hatefilled Jesus-chest-thumping fruit loops) are concerned, the Jews can go fuck themselves.

[Captain Zero]

70. He wants Russia to blast Israel off the map soon.

How do you say you're an anti-Semite without saying you're an anti-Semite?
Say what Pat says.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Yes, they are the wrong kind of Christians. They are Eastern Orthodox...

Which makes this another religious war about oil.

[mitch96]

13. "another religious war"... How are they gonna rationalize Putins new army of

Chechens and Syrians killing blonde haired blue eyed christians?
Oh your right, wrong kind of christians.. uff
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[Wounded Bear]

17. Kill them all. Let god sort them out...

[ShazzieB]

43. Exactly what I was getting ready to say.

Glad I decided to read the comments first, so I can piggyback on this instead of starting another separate thread on the same thing.

Eastern Orthodox Christians are definitely the "wrong" kind to evangelicals. I grew up going to Baptist churches that had pretty much the same theology as the current "evangelical" crowd, and based on a rationale that would take too long to go into, my church taught that Catholics weren't really REAL Christians, much as they might think they were. The Eastern Orthodox branch of Christianity was never mentioned (only because it wasn't really on the radar), but I'm quite convinced that they would have been regarded much the same way, for most of the same reasons.

There's a VERY strong streak in protestant Christianity (Anerican in particular? Not sure.) of quibbling over who is a "real" Christian and who isn’t, and the answers to that question being a really BFD. Just one of many reasons why I got the f*** out early on. I got sick and tired of 1) the emphasis on not going to hell as the ONLY thing that matters, and 2) all the arbitrary and conflicting rules about what determines whether one does or doesn't go there. I eventually came to reject the whole evengelical/fundamentalist conception of hell as even being A Thing, period.

Unlike some people who break away from their early religious training, I'm still not, to this day, an atheist. I get why people become atheists, but that's just not where I am. I do not need to be an atheist or anti-religion in general however, to view the obsession with making sure one goes to the "right place" after death as an unhealthy thing for religions to be focused on.

[JHB]

65. That's less important than it might be otherwise

The Russian Orthodox Church that has been fostered by Putin hates a lot of the same people as they do, and they've spent the last 15-20 years being propagandized that Russia is a "Christian nation" they can support for not yielding to the decadence that they themselves see America succumbing to.

[Wounded Bear]

72. One thing that American Evngelical Christians are is easy to fool...

[JHB]

80. Their preachers depend on it...

...and it's proven to be a pretty lucrative business model.

[SergeStorms]

83. Accepting Trump as their hero....

is all the proof you'll ever need of that!

[Wounded Bear]

88. Indeed! nt

[Beachnutt]

8. They're busy twisting the bible into

it's Gods plan....
I heard one yesterday on the radio as I scrolled thru the channels I listened for a few and thats what he was saying.
In scrolling on my fm car radio I heard three different ones "preaching" twisted bullshit about it.

[mopinko]

77. i wonder who sent the memo.

[Tetrachloride]

9. I just got a message from a Moscow acquaintance. No discussion of politics

but at least 2 Russian acquaintances are alive and as of a week ago, my Ukraine acquaintance.

we all are in a certain online group.

That’s the extent of it.

[Crunchy Frog]

10. Evangelicals worship power not Christ.

[sarge43]

30. Called it.

[uponit7771]

11. This is ****WHITE**** evangelicals and yes its race and class based

[blue-wave]

12. Yup, I agree

[yardwork]

64. Everything is race and class based with that crew.

[uponit7771]

67. +1,

[yardwork]

86. It's really the key to understanding them.

[Lovie777]

14. "End Times" ......

[Crowman2009]

84. Or as I like to call it: god sanctioned murder-suicide.

These people are so misreable that they can't get their way with the culture war that they are willing to destroy the planet.

[BootinUp]

15. 99% pure hypocrites. nt

[NewHendoLib]

16. 110%. Very impure hypocrites

[ck4829]

18. K&R

[milestogo]

20. BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING READY FOR JESUS TO COME BACK!

[2naSalit]

24. While trying to...

Shorten the timeline, whatever that is.

[world wide wally]

28. He has already come back for far too many of them

[Ferrets are Cool]

21. "Evangelicals BACK TRUMP"

This NEVER ceases to boggle my brain.

[Mariana]

53. I can't imagine why it boggles your brain.

The Evangelicals have been showing us what kind of people they are for decades.

[calimary]

66. No kidding!

[2naSalit]

23. i never expected anything else from them.

[IronLionZion]

25. Plenty of American evangelicals support Putin/Russia

and some think the world is ending soon. I like telling them COVID is the rapture and they were left behind. The rapture index is higher now than after 9/11. There's no reasoning with these fanatics.

Why white evangelical Christians are Putin's biggest American fan base
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/russia-ukraine-crisis-complicates-american-white-evangelicals-love-putin-n1290442

Russia’s war on Ukraine has some Christians wondering: Is this the end of the world?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2022/03/10/russia-putin-end-of-the-world/

These hypocrites were supportive of sinful Trump too so they're totally fake.

[calimary]

41. TOTALLY fake.

Choose your side, people. If you stand with trump, you DON’T stand for freedom, Christian principles, or America. He wants to be what he’s sees his hero Putin being, saying, and doing.

[Blue Owl]

26. They've always loved some good martyr figures to rationalize their beliefs

[Jetheels]

27. The evangelicals replaced compassion with vengeance.

Their Jesus is a muscular, ass kicking mthrfckr.
War is exciting to them it proves end times are coming.

[calimary]

42. And that's not Who He is.

At least not the Savior I learned about in Catholic school, anyway.

[Ilsa]

44. You forgot "...holding a grenade launcher..." or

some other such barbaric weapon.

[True Blue American]

29. Robertson and Falwell are 2 examples of how the ones

Sitting in the pews are destroying Religion.

[Handler]

31. I find evangelical silence refreshing, but I agree with your point

[dchill]

32. Franklin Graham says "Pray for Putin." That's not silence.

But it should be.

[Ilsa]

46. Yeah the same way I pray for trump:

For God to take him (to Hell) sooner rather than later.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

33. They're hoping it'll bring the end times

Evangelism is nothing but a death cult.

[hatrack]

56. As concisely described in less than five minutes by Christopher Hitchens

[Mr. Ected]

34. They are like 8-track players

They produce nothing on their own until someone jams a cartridge in their noggins. Then they play whatever trash they're given.

[sop]

35. American evangelicals don't stand with the oppressed, they are usually the oppressors.

Many christians defended slavery, believing it was "an institution of God.” And there was no great outcry over the treatment of Native Americans either.

[Mariana]

57. The Bible clearly supports the practice of slavery.

Therefore, it's not surprising that so many Christians thought it was a Godly thing to do.

[Racygrandma]

36. There are some pretty good articles on patheos about Russian Orthodoxy

and Nationalism, I hope the link works. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2022/03/russian-orthodoxy-and-christian-nationalism/

[Slammer]

37. SBC

I certainly wouldn't presume to speak for evangelists. But MSNBC TV pointed out at least one Baptist group which was helping move refugees out of Ukraine.

I remembered being curious about which Baptist group it might have been (since there's dozens of them) and looked up the Southern Baptist Convention (which is the largest).

They'd already given $406,000 in humanitarian assistance by March 1st and had #StandWithUkraine images on their website. But if it was their people who were actually helping inside the country, I couldn't find mention of it.

Take that for what you will.

[JI7]

39. Same reason these white evangelicals don't care about black and brown

Christians .

They are white supremacists.

[Racygrandma]

40. I read that about Pat Robertson

That has to be the most hateful thing I have ever heard of. To wish for an apocalypse, I mean really. They think there will be a rapture. I had a Methodist preacher say that the Bible does not say that. But the Southern Baptist do think there will be a rapture. I blame the evangelicals for a lot of this, I think they are totally guilty.

[keithhs28]

47. And totally nutty!

[Dirty Socialist]

45. GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!!! GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!!!

There are no buck bucks in taking a stand for Ukraine.

[ck4829]

49. K&R

[bluestarone]

50. These MORONS want Jesus to came back so bad that,

They are willing to go to hell for it.

[Permanut]

51. Evangelical members of the Jesus cult and the Trump cult are gullible fools..

As reported in The Atlantic in September of 2020, in comments about Michael Cohen's book,

In Cohen’s recent memoir, Disloyal, he recounts Trump returning from his 2011 meeting with the pastors who laid hands on him and sneering, “Can you believe that bullshit?”

Okay, so Michael Cohen is not the most reliable source on the planet, but there are scores of other examples of Mango Mussolini's disdain for the rubes in his cult.

[keithbvadu2]

58. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness.

Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Evangelicals/religious right are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.

The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.

The Donald who ridicules Holy Communion.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

[skip fox]

63. This phrase, "Political Christians," is fantastic and could be used

to wake people up.

I can even imagine it being used in sermons by preachers who want to reclaim Christianity.

[keithbvadu2]

59. Marcia Blackburn cares about Christians but not so much for the others

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216431543

Blackburn's heart is breaking for all the CHRISTIANS in Ukraine

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https://democraticunderground.com/100216435360

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[Hotler]

60. Saving their hate for dems and libs. nt

[Jetheels]

61. Here's an article on evangelicals...if you want to know more...

https://www.salon.com/2021/03/20/evangelicals-are-teaching-false-doctrine-who-says-so-jesus-christ/
Or here’s a trailer you might want to watch…

[yardwork]

62. I've heard some criticism of Biden from some evangelicals I know.

They're ignoring everything Trump did to empower Putin, and now wringing their hands because Biden won't do something.

[lark]

71. Some evangelicals are outraged at Putin's war of choice, my friend is mad as hell.

It's just the main folks that prosper from hate are still in charge and still want that funding from Russia to fund their own war against us.

[Unca Jim]

73. Except they are sending money and people...

Look, I loathe evangelicals and their movement, and I agree completely that they back Trump.

But they still are doing a lot to help.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/megachurches-in-u-s-are-supporting-ukraine-relief-contrary-to-social-media-posts/

[Midnight Writer]

74. What do you expect from folks who think Jimmy Carter is evil and Trump is God's Chosen.

[Rabrrrrrr]

76. Maybe if we could spin the invasion as "late term abortion; 960 months and more after pregnancy!!"

the Evangelicals might give a shit.

[pandr32]

78. They've really stepped in it

Orange sh*t that is.

[uponit7771]

79. "political Christians" is what they are

[llashram]

81. this faction

these RW factions are all hypocrites. They are waiting for China and Russia to band together. Part of the coming Christian Apocolypse thinking. Since experiencing their way of thinking/worshipping and quitting 30+ years ago, they have just gotten more racist and more hateful to all not believing in a bloodthirsty GOD!!! Like they do.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

82. My local political evangelical is only posting about church in Ukraine.

Specifically about a sermon in which a pastor in Ukraine (apparently) preached "peace is in the promises of God, not in hoping Putin will give up". How about that for twisted logic?

A couple days into the war she was ragging on Trudeau by sharing a letter of condemnation from American "pastors" re: Covid mandates. See here:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223612692879620&id=1059883780

Until the invasion she raged about kids wearing masks.. The libertarian God-freaks are in a tough spot. Poor lambs. Problem is they never owe up to their grievous mistakes, simply change the subject to who should bend to God's will next.

[lees1975]

85. Here's why.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/03/faith-influencing-politics-without.html

Those Christians who publicly support Trumpism are either ignorant of their own faith and its doctrine and theology, which is the case for vast numbers of them, or they are ignoring their faith, choosing the politics over the spiritual principles, or making the politics their spiritual practice.

Being a peacemaker was important enough to Jesus to link the blessing for being one to being called one of God's sons or daughters. The attack on Ukraine did prompt many Christians in the United States to action, but no repudiation of Trump's praise of Putin's genius or backing away from Trump's advocacy for violence or denunciation of his corruption that helped precipitate this crisis in the first place.

[Yoyoyo77]

87. Wait! What are you talking about, I never said that!!!!!

[electric_blue68]

89. 🤔 Not sure how many Ukrainian Christians VS Ukrainian Catholics & Ukrainian Orthodoxs there are

[bif]

91. Fuck 'em!

Bunch of hypocrites.

[jcgoldie]

92. It isn't just about Trump

Russian $$ and disinformation on social media has been getting a lot of today's GOP elected for several years to do evangelical bidding on god and guns and abortion. They are scared to bite the hand thats been feeding them.