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When Did The Russian Mafia Infiltrate And Take Over The..... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2022 OP
When they were able to steal the election, and install the bloated tick into office. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #1
They infiltrated in the 60s WhiteTara Mar 2022 #2
The Grand Old Puti Party. :) n/t brewens Mar 2022 #3
Before. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2022 #4
i think thats WHY TFG became their nominee and imperial leader samnsara Mar 2022 #5
they infiltrated many figures before 2016 - including moscow mitch, lenningrad lindsay samsingh Mar 2022 #6
and SineManchin. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #7
Before... it was a mutual infiltration Effete Snob Mar 2022 #8
I seem to recall... Ohio Joe Mar 2022 #9
They Didn't RobinA Mar 2022 #10
It was not a light switch but there is a clear marker WA-03 Democrat Mar 2022 #11
Before Trump, but likely with Trump's help... Caliman73 Mar 2022 #12
2016 or earlier liberal N proud Mar 2022 #13
Rudy loved the dictator in 2014. moondust Mar 2022 #14
The Russian Mafia didn't infiltrate them. GoCubsGo Mar 2022 #15
I sort of remember in 2013-2014 Mad_Machine76 Mar 2022 #16
Yep--that's when I started noticing it. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #17
Before Trump--but Trump made it complete, of course. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #18

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
2. They infiltrated in the 60s
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:18 AM
Mar 2022

and I think that little by little they've been making in roads ever since. Complete take over? Probably when they hacked the RNC and found out how many of them had cheated their way into office.

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
5. i think thats WHY TFG became their nominee and imperial leader
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:21 AM
Mar 2022

..they were a mess anyway just looking for someone to take the blame and TFG obliged

samsingh

(18,426 posts)
6. they infiltrated many figures before 2016 - including moscow mitch, lenningrad lindsay
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:21 AM
Mar 2022

traitor rand paul and others.

i think the repug party is infiltrated by russian, chinese, and saudi sympathizers. This includes fox and the nra, both tools of russia.

Some people claim to be Democrats but in fact i believe are deep plants - like tulsi gabbord

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
8. Before... it was a mutual infiltration
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:35 AM
Mar 2022

When the old Soviet system broke up in the early 1990's, a small army of right wing advisors flooded into Russia and its surrounds to help the up-and-coming "entrepreneurs" who appropriated state industries for themselves through a combination of corruption and intimidation.

Giuliani had just completed disrupting the Italian mob in New York, opening up opportunities for the growing Russian mob, who found much to like in the administration of Rudy Giuliani and the real estate services of Donald Trump.

The game goes way back.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,355 posts)
11. It was not a light switch but there is a clear marker
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:57 AM
Mar 2022

In July of 2016 at the RNC Convention. When the Republican platform policy against Crimea was changed in favor of Russia rather than the original draft in favor of Ukraine’s defense of territories being occupied by Russia. It was the only change Trump got and wanted. They could have changed and most candidates due make a ton of changes the party platform to reflect their policies and positions. It is serious business but for this year they only made just one change. Donald did change the only thing he needed for it to be totally aligned with Putin. Russia is the Republican’s policy and position still.

That to me was the tell they were fused together and the one and the same.

When will the Republicans honestly stop hating America and the world’s liberal democracies?

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
12. Before Trump, but likely with Trump's help...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 12:01 PM
Mar 2022

Russia and the NRA seem to have been working with each other prior to Trump's candidacy. I would say that Trump opened the floodgates by working so closely with Russia during the 2016 election but remember that Trump has long standing ties to Russia since US banks stopped lending him money after he defaulted on so many loans.

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
13. 2016 or earlier
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 12:09 PM
Mar 2022

They were behind the orange one all the way. And I would suspect that many a republican has taken donations from them prior to 2016

moondust

(21,286 posts)
14. Rudy loved the dictator in 2014.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 01:27 PM
Mar 2022

March 3, 2014, during annexation of Crimea:

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Rather than blasting Putin for ignoring international law, the sovereignty of an independent neighboring country, and the rights of Ukrainians to decide their country's future for themselves, Giuliani praised Putin for being what he called "a leader."
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After chuckling dismissively at the idea of merely leveling sanctions against Russia in response to its transgression, Giuliani laid it out as simply as he could: "Putin decides what he wants to do, and he does it in half a day, right? He decided he had to go to their parliament — he went to their parliament, he got permission in 15 minutes."
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Rudy Giuliani: Unlike Obama, Putin is “what you call a leader”

Ruble trail probably goes back farther than that.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
15. The Russian Mafia didn't infiltrate them.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 01:33 PM
Mar 2022

It was a merger of like minds. Criminals and white supremacists of a feather flock together. The merger took place some time when the black guy became President.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
16. I sort of remember in 2013-2014
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 01:40 PM
Mar 2022

Republicans had started expressing more or less openly expressing admiration of Putin and often compared Obama unfavorably to him. I think that that was around the time that those shirtless pics of Putin started showing up everywhere.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
18. Before Trump--but Trump made it complete, of course.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 01:45 PM
Mar 2022

The email hack of RNC was probably the final stroke.

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