A few facts about Kyiv

it sits on high bluffs above the river Dnipr. Any attack would be uphill

it has the deepest subway system of any major city in the world. The tunnels near the city center are 150-300 feet deep. The defenders can use them as living quarters, shelter and to move from one fighting position to another. Russian artillery can't touch them down there. OTOH it also may tempt Putin to use WMD's to dig them out.

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A few facts about Kyiv (Original post)	Ex Lurker	Mar 2022	OP
I don't believe they'll assault Kiev. (Kyiv)	WarGamer	Mar 2022	#1
+1, Putrid is an asshole he's not completely suicidal	uponit7771	Mar 2022	#3
Tanks appear to be a weapon of the past. One Javelin: goodbye tank.	Tomconroy	Mar 2022	#2
+1, ... and from a mile away carried by one soldier on lunch break. Can you imagine wanting to be	uponit7771	Mar 2022	#4
I read somewhere the Russians don't want to be inside them.	Tomconroy	Mar 2022	#5

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Mon Mar 14, 2022, 08:31 PM

WarGamer (8,310 posts)

1. I don't believe they'll assault Kiev. (Kyiv)

They'll surround it, cut it off and use it as a negotiation piece.

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Mon Mar 14, 2022, 08:57 PM

uponit7771 (88,639 posts)

3. +1, Putrid is an asshole he's not completely suicidal

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Mon Mar 14, 2022, 08:55 PM

Tomconroy (6,525 posts)

2. Tanks appear to be a weapon of the past. One Javelin: goodbye tank.

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Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:00 PM

uponit7771 (88,639 posts)

4. +1, ... and from a mile away carried by one soldier on lunch break. Can you imagine wanting to be

... in one of those these days ?!

Burnt up with fire heat from hell inside a steel box, ... f that !!

Tanks ... MIGHT ... be good in the open but not against laser guided artillery ... damn, they might be a thing of the past.

A ... LOT ... of countries can afford mobile artillery, AA/ATGM and some SA shoulder mounted missiles to keep bombings up high.

A few facts about Kyiv

1. I don't believe they'll assault Kiev. (Kyiv)

3. +1, Putrid is an asshole he's not completely suicidal

2. Tanks appear to be a weapon of the past. One Javelin: goodbye tank.

4. +1, ... and from a mile away carried by one soldier on lunch break. Can you imagine wanting to be

5. I read somewhere the Russians don't want to be inside them.