Lavrov says Moscow "will not allow" the transfer of S-300 air defense systems to Ukraine

[highplainsdem]

Link to tweet

[BlueTsunami2018]

1. I can't imagine they would just let these weapons go through if they can help it.

Of course they’ll attack them. Who wouldn’t?

[jimfields33]

13. I can't imagine what big mouths so many are in this war.

Do we really need to know every detail second by second of what is being done? They could have done this in secret.

[relayerbob]

54. It's possible it is a distraction

Or psyops. NATO has been pretty careful about what they say on everything else. These aren’t leaks, they are press statements, so I wonder how staged there are.

[ColinC]

38. NATO has been clear attacking their shipments will trigger article 5

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The Secretary General emphasized that an attack on NATO territory, on NATO troops, NATO capabilities would be an attack on NATO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ua.interfax.com.ua/news/general/810166-amp.html

[MarineCombatEngineer]

39. If it's on a NATO member's territory,

but if Russia attacked the convoy inside Ukraine, then I highly doubt that NATO would invoke Article 5.

[Lonestarblue]

51. If they'll attack food supplies to force people to starve to death, they'll do anything.

I think Putin is actually trying to get NATO involved as an excuse to use nuclear weapons, even if it’s only tactical ones, and chemical warfare. He will not give up until he is either forced out of office, assassinated, or takes over Ukraine and completes murdering anyone left alive there and bombing all building into rubble. I believe Putin is no longer the cold warrior—he is vindictive because the Ukrainians have thwarted him.

[Happy Hoosier]

58. They can try to stop them

But they seem to have trouble finding their own ass with a map and two free hands.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Interesting. "Will not allow" suggests they think they have the power to stop it.

Proceed.

[lagomorph777]

4. Right. He can't even get his own supplies through.

[Ray Bruns]

41. That is what I was thinking. They can't supply their own troops across the border.

How are they going to target a moving convoy in Eastern Europe.

[seta1950]

16. EXACTLY

[cemaphonic]

70. Yeah, no way in hell that they launch attacks into Poland or Romania

They will certainly try to attack them once on Ukrainian soil, but seeing as how they are struggling to project force more than 30km from their border, I don't foresee them having much luck.

Or to put it another way, if Lavrov is talking, the truth is more-or-less the opposite.

[RKP5637]

3. Isn't Slovakia part of NATO. What's he going to do now, attack Slovakia ...

NATO country list, 2022 >>> https://dmerharyana.org/nato-countries-list/

[James48]

27. Maybe. Maybe not.

Maybe they will just wait until the shipment is physically moving, and they’ll hit it the moment it crosses into the Ukrainian border.

I really wish we could/would do more to help Ukraine.

[ColinC]

31. Attacking any NATO shipments will trigger article 5

The head of NATO has been very clear about that.

The Secretary General emphasized that an attack on NATO territory, on NATO troops, NATO capabilities would be an attack on NATO.

https://ua.interfax.com.ua/news/general/810166-amp.html

[James48]

43. WRONG!!

No- attacking NATO TERRITORY is what triggers article 5- NOT shipments of NATO weapons inside the war zone.

Weapons are fair game once they cross into Ukraine.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

45. +100. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

46. Absolutely untrue. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

50. You really should delete/edit this false information.

Jus sayin'.

[ColinC]

64. Even if not directly article 5,

The speech in its'context very strongly implied NATO will get involved if their shipments were attacked. Whether this is an empty threat is another story, but they at least claimed an attack on any NATO forces (inside or outside territory) would be seen as an attack on NATO.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

66. If they're attacked on NATO territory, but inside Ukraine,

they're fair game, as in any war, you try to interdict the enemy's supply line, but I suspect that this convoy will be heavily defended with SAM's and Javelin AAM's.

[ColinC]

67. I still think it would be absolutely insane for Russia to attack NATO forces

In any context. And the Secretary General's statement seemed to indicate that even attack on NATO forces would be a clear military escalation. Whatever that means.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

68. Yes, if Russia attacked NATO forces,

then it's war, but it won't be NATO troops moving or operating those S-300's, it'll be Ukrainian troops.

[RKP5637]

55. Same here. I don't want to get into a nuke war, but I think Putin is going to keep playing his

nuke card as he invades other non-NATO countries. I think his bluff needs to be called just as JFK did with the Cuban missile crisis. Putin is not going to back down, he does not negotiate in good faith and he's on a Stalin mission. All a bad combination. I know everyone is doing a lot, but somehow I think a no-fly zone needs to be established.

[Emrys]

5. Fuck you, Lavrov. n/t

[SheltieLover]

6. Obviously he has mistaken NATO for countries that give a shit

Time fof more threats in 3, 2, 1...

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Convoy needs to have men or women armed with missiles to strike incoming threats.

Decoy convoys wouldn't hurt either.

[FalloutShelter]

8. Never Forget

[llashram]

18. TPOSFG was

a tool and knew it. What a howdy-doody...

[multigraincracker]

24. This

?1490465246

[calimary]

63. Enemy sympathizer. In OUR White House.

What a slap in the face. FUCK YOU, donald. You’ve already made clear whose side you’re on. Too bad the GOP is so desperate and hungry for power that they’ll probably climb back in bed with you again. A shame for all of America.

[nycbos]

9. I thought they already had the S-300

[MarineCombatEngineer]

10. They do, but in limited numbers,

they need to replenish their stocks.

i say give it to them, they'll put those AAM's to excellent use.

[lagomorph777]

11. Clearly you're afraid of them, Sergey. Thanks for the tip!

[roamer65]

12. Ship 'em.

[C_U_L8R]

14. Oh yeah, you and what army?

They have a knack for picking fights they can't win

[SoonerPride]

53. I came to post that exact line.

#GreatMinds

[C_U_L8R]

57. Bullies stink.

[barbtries]

15. it's not up to him.

#SaveUkraine #EndPutin

[ashredux]

17. Ahh...nobody is asking permission...

[Cracklin Charlie]

19. Growling bear not so scary as it once was.

Send it.

[CaptainTruth]

20. As we say in the South, bless his heart.

[L. Coyote]

21. That's easy to say from the comfort of the Kremiln. Lavrov:

"only Fox News is trying to represent some alternative points of view"

Link to tweet

[Mr. Evil]

22. Another blabbering shitstain that should receive the Mussolini treatment.

Sergey Lapdog is just another Russian phony tough guy bullshit artist scumbag.

Fuck him repeatedly with a crooked red-hot piece of rusty rebar. I say, ship 'em!

[llashram]

23. yep

red hot! To hell with these barbarians and that person interviewing him.

[IronLionZion]

25. Is he going to do something to NATO member Slovakia?

As Qanon keep saying, where we go one, we go all.

If Russia does anything, it will be to hit it with airstrikes as soon as it crosses the border into Ukraine.

[marmar]

26. The Kremlin is starting to sound Baghdad Bob-ish

[Kid Berwyn]

28. THIS Lavrov?

Here he is in the Oval Office, standing behind his favorite President.

[paleotn]

30. That's him. Shows how F'd we were in Donnie Dumbass's reign.

[Kid Berwyn]

36. Proper f'd.

In the Oval Office in the merry month of May 2017

President Trump gestures to Russia's ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, as he speaks to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office on Wednesday, May 10, 2017. (Alexander Shcherbak/TASS/Getty Images)

“I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to The Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.”



"I'm not under investigation," he added.

Sources (Thank TASS):

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nut-job-james-comey-russia-2017-5

Waybackwhen: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212103467

I had to come back…

[Aviation Pro]

33. Who's the fucking orange, bloated clown

Standing next to Lavorov?

[Kid Berwyn]

42. Agent P-On, AKA "Lavrov's Dog"

The biggest ever passed.

[paleotn]

29. Empty threat.

That would require interdiction within a NATO country, triggering Article 5. He's bluffing.

[Aviation Pro]

32. So, Vova

What the fuck are you going to do about it, you fucking, criminal douchebag?

[ColinC]

34. They are showing their hands with this

If Ukraine gets those missiles, Russia may very well withdraw.

[Gore1FL]

35. I recommend they don't send aircraft to "not allow" this transfer.

It won't go well.

[KS Toronado]

37. Well Lavrov, I "will not allow"

you to send any fuel, food, or ammo to your Russian troops inside UKR.
And if you cross that line, I've got some free polonium tea for you.

[bringthePaine]

40. abrking dog says what?...

[turbinetree]

44. Then fucking Lavrov should send / tell his mercenaries to leave, for that matter the entire Russia

Army.......problem solved asshole......maybe you can have a joke with your orange hair fucking buddy like old times...did I mention by the way, there is a new sheriff in town if you didn't get the message.....

[dchill]

47. Sanctioned Asshole says what?

[lees1975]

48. There's no way to stop it

Wasn't the Slovak President one of those who got through to Kyiv and back home just a few days ago?

[CanonRay]

49. Just more Russian bluff and bluster

Hoping if they put up their chest we will back down and not send them.

[musclecar6]

52. Independent western media

Lavrov says there’s no such thing !?!?!?! This guy reminds me of TFFG. Obviously Russia has no such thing as an independent media, so in total TFFG fashion, that dipshit accuses us of the thing Russia is guilty of. Hey it works over here where TFFG has been getting away with that shit for years, so it looks like they took a page out TFFG’s conman handbook unless it’s likely also in the KGB’s conman handbook.

Course us Dems have no problem seeing thru conmen and the GOP wolfs down this kind of bullshit like it’s absolute fact. Perfect foils for Russia’s megalomaniac psychopath as well as our own orange version.

[Mr.Bill]

56. That's good.

It means they are very afraid of them.

[Flaleftist]

59. LOL. nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

60. Can't they use S-300's to shoot down anything trying to shoot the S-300's?

I mean, the S-300 is an air defense system, after all.

[peggysue2]

61. The strikes on Lviv last night may underscore Lavrov's claim

The city is very close to the border where I understand there's been an open corridor for refugees and supplies. Of course, those far west targets also increase the danger of missiles being lobbed over Poland's border.

Then it really gets hairy. For everyone.

[Maru Kitteh]

62. Baghdad Bob says what?

[BobTheSubgenius]

65. What country prosecuting any kind of war is going to "allow" weapons systems...

...to be delivered to its enemy or deployed by them? On Slovakia's part....I guess they thought there was some deterrent value in making this statement publicly. A mere foot back from the precipice for a NATO country to be making such statements. If Russia attacks convoys of said materiel while they're on Slovakian soil, in theory, NATO is in this war.

I'd love to see Ukraine get some effective air defense, but I shudder at the thought of all of NATO joining this fight. Russia should also shudder, and the rest of the world as well, but for different reasons.

And, finally, where are the anti-artillery batteries that were being talked about recently. If Ukraine gets these two systems deployed and effective, the Russian war effort is in even more
serious jeopardy.

[ThoughtCriminal]

69. We'll be happy to turn them over to Russia

Just send over some aircraft and the missiles will find them.