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Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:22 PM

Who do you think will be the 2028 nominees for each Party?

We always hear about 2024, but that's boring (and divisive, because Biden is our President and he said that he's running again if he remains healthy). It will almost certainly be Biden and Trump (assuming that he'd not indited and is relatively healthy as well). So let's talk about 2028.

Only one thing is certain about 2028: It won't be Biden or Trump, no matter who wins in 2024, one reason being age. So who will it be? Well, first we must divide the question into two different scenarios. One if we win in 2024, and one if we lose. The 2028 Republican nominee won't make much difference on 2028 regardless if they win or lose in 2024, but ours will.

ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE

If we win in 2024 (and I suspect that we will), Harris will be the clear favorite in 2028. While I don't think that there will be any serious challengers, I could be wrong. There could be some. I expect the VP to win. Sitting VP's haven't lost their Party's nomination in over a century.

If we lose in 2024, it's a whole new ballgame. I'd expect a fierce primary. Harris will almost certainly run, but I doubt that she would win the nomination. After a Party loses, the VP usually doesn't get the nomination again. Dan Quale tried this in 2000 and didn't come close, and I suspect the same will happen to Pence if he runs in 2024. Biden did, but as VP his Party won twice. So who will it be? Pete Buttigieg will be 46, but I don't know if he'd be the front-runner. Blinken? Possibly. Gavin Newsom? I like this choice. He'll be 60, still young. AOC? She'll turn 39 in the October before the election, but winning nationally might be a stretch. Beto? If he can pull of an upset in Texas this year and get re-elected in 2026, than oh yeah he's the frontrunner. But that's a very big IF. Now...

ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE

Tucker Carlson would be my guess. They seem to love snake oil salesmen, and he does have a big following on their side. Can he fire up a crowd as good as Trump? I don't know, but he doesn't seem so. Can he debate himself to a win in the primaries like Trump did? Absolutely (against their people at least). He made Ted Cruz choke, who himself is a good debater. As for Cruz, I guess he'd have a chance, but I expect him to finish 2nd or 3rd more than 1st. Perhaps he'll be their VP choice. Donald Jr.? I doubt it. No charisma, even if Trump wind in 2024 and he's running an coattails. Josh Hawley? Perish the thought. Rubio? He has to win his own Senate Seat first. DeSantis? Probably has the best shot to the nomination out of all of them, but my guess is still Tucker. Remember, they are insane. They picked Trump, and will likely pick him again.

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Reply Who do you think will be the 2028 nominees for each Party? (Original post)
Polybius Mar 2022 OP
left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #1
doc03 Mar 2022 #2
Polybius Mar 2022 #4
Elessar Zappa Mar 2022 #3
VarryOn Mar 2022 #5
NoRethugFriends Mar 2022 #6
MineralMan Mar 2022 #7
Hekate Mar 2022 #8
brooklynite Mar 2022 #9
Bucky Mar 2022 #27
Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #10
Sympthsical Mar 2022 #11
Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #17
Sympthsical Mar 2022 #20
Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #25
Sympthsical Mar 2022 #29
karynnj Mar 2022 #22
Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #23
karynnj Mar 2022 #24
Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #26
Runningdawg Mar 2022 #12
Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #18
Groundhawg Mar 2022 #13
Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #14
Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #19
Xavier Breath Mar 2022 #15
rampartc Mar 2022 #16
struggle4progress Mar 2022 #21
Celerity Mar 2022 #31
doc03 Mar 2022 #28
liberalmediaaddict Mar 2022 #30

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:28 PM

1. I'm withholding my response until 2026

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:28 PM

2. Aren't we getting a little ahead of things, we don't even know who will be the nominees for 2024

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Response to doc03 (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:31 PM

4. We have a good guess

I'd say 75% chance of a rematch.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:31 PM

3. Harris on our side

and DeSantis on their’s. DeSantis could end up being worse than Trump because he’s much smarter.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:44 PM

5. If Eric Adams can get things fixed in NYC...

 

I'd keep an eye on him for 2028. I don't think Harris can win a national election, and she'll attract primary opponents. Hopefully, we'll have a good bench of governor then. I'm partial to governors.

As for Republicans, I'd guess it'll be a governor. I don't see any of the Senators having national appeal, except maybe Romney, and he'll be too old by then plus he's burned a bridge with many.

A lot can happen in the next 5 or 6 years.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:58 PM

6. Me and Bobby Mcgee

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:00 PM

7. Impossible to say.

Waste of time.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:02 PM

8. Not Now

Thanks, though

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:04 PM

9. Tucker Carlson is a ridiculous idea.

First, he doesn’t want the job. He doesn’t have the ego-vision of himself as President, and doesn’t ant to take on the responsibility; he’s happy to be the voice of influence TO the the President.

Second, he wouldn’t want the pay cut. Trump ran largely because he say a Presidential campaign as a springboard to a money-making communications biz. Carlson is already rich from his Fox News gig.

Third, while he’s the idol of the MAGA crowd, he’s not the idol of the other (pro- and anti-Trump) Republicans. He doesn’t have the ability to cut down other Republicans with his tweets or news comments, and they won’t be letting him get in the way of their own political ambitions.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 11:17 PM

27. He'd be walking away from a lot of power (& $) that he enjoys now if he ran

But I also wonder if he's gonna implode over the next couple of years from all the Russian propaganda he's spewing on Fox. Unlike Bill O'Reilly, who legitimately believes his own kooky ideas, Tucker Carlson is just a privileged nitwit who's putting on an act. At some point he's gonna be exposed. And then he'll go away. And then Murdoch will replace him with someone equally disingenuous and evil

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:07 PM

10. Pretty sure it's not going to be who I now think it's going to be.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:19 PM

11. There are about twenty assumptions between here and there

I'm worried about 2022. Then I'll start wondering about 2024, because I don't think the nominee is a given. Then 2026 based on what Congress looks like.

Finally, 2028, when the political landscape will no doubt look much, much different.

People forget, Obama went from speech from an unknown state senator to U.S. Senator to President in four years.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:08 PM

17. We need to Biden to run...he is in good health and there should be no issues...incumbents have

an advantage...only three incumbent presidents have lost Hoover in 32, Carter in 80, and Bush1. Keep in mind the path to the presidency runs through the rust belt.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:21 PM

20. We'll see what we see

Obviously, I'm not going to have that conversation here where a narrow band of options and topics will be allowed.

But I don't think what will be going on in 2028 is on anyone's radar at the moment.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:52 PM

25. Democrats in general do not primary a sitting president...the few times it has happened, we lost

the presidency. If Biden is running then there should be no primary.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:01 AM

29. If being the keyword

There is quite a bit of if.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:27 PM

22. And Trump in 2020!

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Response to karynnj (Reply #22)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:51 PM

23. Good point...I guess I never even consider him a president ...just a squatter in the office unfit

always.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:52 PM

24. It IS hard to belive that someone like him ever was President

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Response to karynnj (Reply #24)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:53 PM

26. It truly is...and heartbreaking so much bad came out of it.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:35 PM

12. Hard to say so I will pick my fav Katie Porter and feed her Mark Mullins R-OK for breakfast.

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Response to Runningdawg (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:09 PM

18. I won't vote for Katie Porter in a primary...she endorsed a non-Democrat Nina Turner in a

House race here in Cleveland. I would vote for her in a general...but she won't get that far IMHO.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:09 PM

13. No one has any idea

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:16 PM

14. I think even if Biden runs in 2024

he will have Democratic challengers. I hope it doesn't get ugly.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:11 PM

19. Any Democrat that challanges Biden in 2024 is dead to me...and I will never vote for them in any

future primary. Every time we have a sitting president primaried, we lose.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:26 PM

15. Barack Obama was a state senator

at this point in 2002, six years before his nomination. Either party may field someone in '28 who is just as unknown now as he was then. That's part of the allure of the whole process, IMO.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:27 PM

16. AOC!

my guess would be gym jordan or ms taylor=green for the regressives

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:07 PM

21. On the GOP ticket: Godzilla and The Blob

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:33 AM

31. Hedorah

Hedorah is the kaiju that came the closest to putting Godzilla down for the permanent count.

The creature is extraterrestrial in nature, hailing from the Dark Gas Nebula. It arrived on Earth to feed on the pollution in the atmosphere and environment.

Godzilla battled the creature and nearly lost his life in the process.

The combination of physical strength and energy-based bolt attacks almost killed him before Godzilla got the upper hand. He lost an eye, part of a leg, and an entire hand in the process.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 12:28 AM

28. 2028 I would say it's a 99.9% chance it won't be Biden. nt

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:12 AM

30. Trying to live in the moment

Just have to take life one election at a time.

Since every election we have until Trumpism is gone is "the most important election of our lifetimes."

Besides if Trump wins in 2024 most of us won't be alive to see 2028. We were lucky enough to survive his first term.

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