Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:33 AM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
Manafort is the key to the whole Putin/Trump/Ukraine plot.
That's why his passport is revoked.
2004: Manafort installs Putin puppet Yanukovych in Ukraine. 2004: Yanukovych is driven out of Ukraine by the people. 2010: Manafort installs Putin puppet Yanukovych in Ukraine. 2014: Yanukovych is driven out of Ukraine by the people. 2015: Manafort, Trump Tower Tenant, offers to work for Trump's campaign for FREE. 2016: Manafort and Trump secretly hack the RNC Platform to remove support for Ukraine. 2016: Manafort and Putin install Putin Puppet Trump in the US. 2017-2020: Trump spends four years trying to destroy NATO, Ukraine's chief ally. 2019: Putin gets Trump to blackmail Ukraine and withhold military aid. 2020: Trump pardons Manafort for financial crimes. 2020: Trump is driven from power by the people.
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lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | OP |
calimary | Mar 2022 | #1 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #2 | |
calimary | Mar 2022 | #3 | |
Duppers | Mar 2022 | #10 | |
KPN | Mar 2022 | #32 | |
calimary | Mar 2022 | #47 | |
ProudMNDemocrat | Mar 2022 | #4 | |
dumbcat | Mar 2022 | #15 | |
patphil | Mar 2022 | #21 | |
dumbcat | Mar 2022 | #38 | |
Chin music | Mar 2022 | #62 | |
former9thward | Mar 2022 | #14 | |
liberalgunwilltravel | Mar 2022 | #17 | |
former9thward | Mar 2022 | #23 | |
AnotherMother4Peace | Mar 2022 | #5 | |
Botany | Mar 2022 | #6 | |
Old Okie | Mar 2022 | #36 | |
certainot | Mar 2022 | #57 | |
niyad | Mar 2022 | #58 | |
Chin music | Mar 2022 | #61 | |
Tumbulu | Mar 2022 | #63 | |
Achilleaze | Mar 2022 | #7 | |
KS Toronado | Mar 2022 | #8 | |
Walleye | Mar 2022 | #9 | |
JoanofArgh | Mar 2022 | #11 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #12 | |
A_Steel_Magnolia | Mar 2022 | #13 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #18 | |
Joinfortmill | Mar 2022 | #45 | |
obamanut2012 | Mar 2022 | #24 | |
allegorical oracle | Mar 2022 | #52 | |
BigmanPigman | Mar 2022 | #53 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Mar 2022 | #16 | |
L. Coyote | Mar 2022 | #19 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #20 | |
liberalgunwilltravel | Mar 2022 | #22 | |
Botany | Mar 2022 | #25 | |
Evolve Dammit | Mar 2022 | #64 | |
Warpy | Mar 2022 | #26 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #27 | |
A_Steel_Magnolia | Mar 2022 | #28 | |
tanyev | Mar 2022 | #29 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #31 | |
ancianita | Mar 2022 | #41 | |
Joinfortmill | Mar 2022 | #44 | |
niyad | Mar 2022 | #59 | |
SheltieLover | Mar 2022 | #30 | |
UCmeNdc | Mar 2022 | #33 | |
FakeNoose | Mar 2022 | #34 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #35 | |
BlueIdaho | Mar 2022 | #37 | |
ancianita | Mar 2022 | #42 | |
Kid Berwyn | Mar 2022 | #39 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #40 | |
niyad | Mar 2022 | #60 | |
Joinfortmill | Mar 2022 | #43 | |
FirstLight | Mar 2022 | #46 | |
BobTheSubgenius | Mar 2022 | #48 | |
ultralite001 | Mar 2022 | #49 | |
bucolic_frolic | Mar 2022 | #50 | |
erronis | Mar 2022 | #51 | |
flying_wahini | Mar 2022 | #54 | |
Blue Owl | Mar 2022 | #55 | |
Hotler | Mar 2022 | #56 | |
Evolve Dammit | Mar 2022 | #65 | |
themaguffin | Mar 2022 | #66 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #67 |
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:41 AM
calimary (74,910 posts)
1. Where is Paul Manafort now?
Anybody know?
And why shouldn’t we know? We need to know where this snake has slithered to, and what poisons he’s stocking up on, and who he’s conspiring with now. Too bad we can’t clamp one of those tracking cuffs on his ankle. |
Response to calimary (Reply #1)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:42 AM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
2. They just pulled him off a plane, trying to flee to Dubai.
I believe he's in custody.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:45 AM
calimary (74,910 posts)
3. Oh really???
I hope you’re right!
I hope he REMAINS in custody. PERMANENT custody. |
Response to calimary (Reply #3)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:13 PM
Duppers (26,311 posts)
10. ...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216514049
Just saw another thread posted too... https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142892603 |
Response to Duppers (Reply #10)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:07 PM
KPN (14,705 posts)
32. Wow! Made my day already! Hope that snake ends
back in the slammer for the next 10 years or so (w/ prefer something harsher, but hey, this is the USA). His passport was not revoked for no reason — something is up and he most likely was running.
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Response to KPN (Reply #32)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 03:08 PM
calimary (74,910 posts)
47. Made my day, too!
Lock him up and KEEP him locked up.
Permanently! |
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:46 AM
ProudMNDemocrat (13,641 posts)
4. Arrest him. TDFG cannot protect him.
The pardon does not protect Manafort from this action.
Obviously the man was attempting to flee the country. How he got past Customs and Immigration in the first place is a mystery he will have to explain. |
Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #4)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:27 PM
dumbcat (2,103 posts)
15. Is he currently under any indictments?
If not, what would prevent him from "fleeing the country"?
If he is not under indictment or other reason to be legally detained, I'd just as soon see him gone, and not be allowed back. |
Response to dumbcat (Reply #15)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:30 PM
patphil (4,705 posts)
21. His passport is no longer valid.
Don't know how he got on the plane.
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Response to patphil (Reply #21)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:37 PM
dumbcat (2,103 posts)
38. That wasn't my question
If he isn't under any charges, why was his passport invalid? Why would we want it to be?
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Response to dumbcat (Reply #38)
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:24 PM
former9thward (28,535 posts)
14. Why do you believe that?
Custody for what?
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Response to former9thward (Reply #14)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:28 PM
liberalgunwilltravel (228 posts)
17. This is why
Response to liberalgunwilltravel (Reply #17)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:31 PM
former9thward (28,535 posts)
23. That says nothing about being in custody.
He was removed from a plane for not having a valid passport. You are not jailed for that. You are simply denied travel to those countries which require passports until you get a valid one.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:48 AM
AnotherMother4Peace (3,948 posts)
5. K&R "2016: Manafort and Trump secretly hack the RNC Platform to remove support for Ukraine."
Another one of those suspicious events that Rachel Maddow would not let go of.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:50 AM
Botany (67,435 posts)
6. 2016: Manafort and Putin install Putin Puppet Trump in the US.
In 2016 Manafort gave Russian Agent Konstantin Kilimnik not polling data but data analytics
(or what could be turned into data analytics) that allowed Russia to micro target their actions so Trump would win the electoral college. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html?msclkid=3e321550aa4e11ec90f3d98a885d6d8b Water Torture Manafort until he talks. |
Response to Botany (Reply #6)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:24 PM
Old Okie (90 posts)
36. waterboarding
I don't believe in or support torture but we could turn him over to Dick Cheney. He believed in it since he saw it work on the TV show 24 (talk about alternate reality)
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Response to Botany (Reply #6)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:26 PM
certainot (9,090 posts)
57. don't forget palin. when manafort was mccain campaign cochair, limbaugh would not support mccain
without palin, who was being wooed by russian oil and gas. mccain held out but announced palin was vp the friday before the GOP convention, which would have been a total disaster (believe me, talk radio ignorant) if he wasn't on board. i was listening to the show - palin was announced minutes before the start of the limbaugh show and then limbaugh started his show to 15 mil fucking idiots (incl a lot of incidental listeners) announcing he could finally support mccain - because palin. steve schmidt is still stupid enough to miss that and blame himself for converting palin from an ATV guide to a VP possible.
putin has been using talk radio since at least then, and around the world. the astounding stupidity of ignoring rw radio continues |
Response to certainot (Reply #57)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 12:49 AM
niyad (98,980 posts)
58. Thank you for this very valuable information.
Response to certainot (Reply #57)
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Response to certainot (Reply #57)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 09:46 AM
Tumbulu (6,035 posts)
63. It does
and your excellent posts on the matter continue to illuminate the long term consequences of it.
Thank you! |
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:02 PM
Achilleaze (15,543 posts)
7. Bada bing, bada boom
The key to the whole Republican-Russian set of attacks on American democracy.
Lock the Republican traitors up. Preserve USA. |
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:10 PM
KS Toronado (12,629 posts)
8. The guy needs to sit in jail
until the Jan 6th committee and DOJ are through with him.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:11 PM
Walleye (22,839 posts)
9. Oh yes. I said it before Manafort is the linchpin
He is an evil human being
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:13 PM
JoanofArgh (14,956 posts)
11. Yep.
He was recently with Roger Stone cooking up hell knows what.
Link to tweet ?s=20&t=4gwMsmNmtUL0iRhx5dj-sg |
Response to JoanofArgh (Reply #11)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:15 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
12. The guy on the right is quite Manafucked now. And hey Pinhead Stone...
...your time in the barrel is coming!
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Response to JoanofArgh (Reply #11)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:21 PM
A_Steel_Magnolia (13 posts)
13. Roger and Paul
It's interesting that Manafort looks in great health in this picture. Remember how ill he was (even a wheelchair) when he wanted to get out of prison?
BTW, Manafort's passport had been revoked; that's why he was pulled from the airplane. |
Response to A_Steel_Magnolia (Reply #13)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:29 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
18. Yes, the interesting question is exactly why/when it was revoked.
Since it was apparently clean when he went through TSA, it would appear the revocation was in real time.
Something BIG is up. |
Response to JoanofArgh (Reply #11)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:32 PM
obamanut2012 (23,851 posts)
24. Stone lives quite close to Miami airport
hmmmmmmm
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Response to JoanofArgh (Reply #11)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 04:54 PM
allegorical oracle (1,348 posts)
52. Hmm...what happened to the wheelchair he needed for his court appearances? nt
Response to allegorical oracle (Reply #52)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 05:11 PM
BigmanPigman (48,837 posts)
53. He must have had the same doctor for rehab as Bill Cosby had.
When Cosby was going to court he was almost blind, could hardly walk and didn't have a good prognosis. Now that he is free he has 20/20 vision and is walking unaided. It must be the same medical miracle for both men.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:28 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,729 posts)
16. RW attack is to say Obama engineered a coup against Yanukovych in 2014. Manafort omitted. nt
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:29 PM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
19. 2015: Manafort gets chummy with his old Trump Tower neighbor Trump?
Manafort and Trump go way back, they were "chummy' long before 2015.
It was no secret they changed the Republican platform. We have no evidence Putin was involved in #FailedCoupGuy's extortion attempt on President Zelensky. Manafort is NOT the key to the whole Putin/Trump/Ukraine plot. There is no Putin/Trump/Ukraine plot. That is a mischaraterization of events. Putin's Ukraine plot and Trump's Ukraine plot are not the same thing. |
Response to L. Coyote (Reply #19)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:30 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
20. LOL!
Good one!
![]() So you're saying the fact that Manafort was actually one of Putin's Trump-fluffers for many years, not just since 2015, means all the other stuff is PURE COINCIDENCE? ![]() Please. |
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:30 PM
liberalgunwilltravel (228 posts)
22. Also don't forget
Don't forget Manafort is also responsible for installing the sock puppet Mike Pence as the VP candidate.
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Response to liberalgunwilltravel (Reply #22)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:39 PM
Botany (67,435 posts)
25. Yup!
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412
Putin picked Pence to be V.P. via Manafort. |
Response to liberalgunwilltravel (Reply #22)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 09:48 AM
Evolve Dammit (14,237 posts)
64. Indeed! I knew that and then forgot it. Been a busy five years...welcome!
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:49 PM
Warpy (106,534 posts)
26. Not all by himself. Flynn is in there, too, along with a few key Russians
Manafort and Flynn are very, very bad guys and have been for a long time.
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Response to Warpy (Reply #26)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:52 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
27. True.
And I'm wondering how many of these crooks are buying tickets to Dubai right now.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:59 PM
A_Steel_Magnolia (13 posts)
28. Roger and Paul
The charges Manafort pleaded guilty to were tax and bank charges in New York which is why he went to prison. There could be other charges when the investigation(s) are complete including for Jan 6th (conspiracy to commit sedition?) if he was involved. Any illegal activity after the pardon could be charged.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:59 PM
tanyev (39,424 posts)
29. Manafort contacted the Trump campaign and offered his services. For free.
But it was Mr. Manafort who initiated the process for getting a job on the campaign, the documents show. It began when he sent two succinct memos to Mr. Trump through Thomas J. Barrack Jr., a mutual friend.
In five single-spaced pages of punchy talking points, Mr. Manafort showed how as a onetime lobbyist he had adeptly won over rich and powerful business and political leaders, many of them oligarchs or dictators, in Russia, Ukraine, the Philippines and Pakistan. He began by telling the candidate he lived on an upper floor of Trump Tower. This was no trivial point: It signaled his wealth and a willingness to work 15-hour days in a building that housed both his lavish apartment and Mr. Trump’s bare-bones campaign. It also meant Mr. Manafort had already put his money — in the form of an apartment purchase — into Mr. Trump’s brand, which meant a lot to the candidate, a transactional developer and politician, aides said. Plus he had a powerful closer’s move: He would work for free. “I am not looking for a paid job,” Mr. Manafort wrote. Mr. Barrack drove home the point in his cover letter, writing, “He would do this in an unpaid capacity.” And over the next few months, according to several associates, Mr. Trump would repeatedly boast about the value he was getting from Mr. Manafort. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/08/us/to-charm-trump-paul-manafort-sold-himself-as-an-affordable-outsider.html |
Response to tanyev (Reply #29)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:04 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
31. Yup - I should have put that in the timeline.
Sooo...who WAS paying Paul?
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #31)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 02:22 PM
ancianita (30,916 posts)
41. Does this tell you anything? Because whatever he made on the campaign was nothing compared
to the debts he'd incurred (over projects in Ukraine) and kept stalling to repay.
Financial records certified in December 2015 and filed by Manafort in Cyprus showed him to be approximately $17 million in debt to interests connected to interests favorable to Putin and Yanukovych in the months before joining the Trump presidential campaign in March.[114] These included a $7.8 million debt to Oguster Management Limited, a company connected to Deripaska.[114] This accords with a 2015 court complaint filed by Deripaska claiming that Manafort and his partners owed him $19 million in relation to a failed Ukrainian cable television business.[114] In January 2018, Surf Horizon Limited, a Cyprus-based company tied to Deripaska, sued Manafort and his business partner Richard "Rick" Gates, accusing them of financial fraud by misappropriating more than $18.9 million that the company had invested in Ukrainian telecom companies, known collectively as the "Black Sea Cable".[115] An additional $9.9 million debt was owed to a Cyprus company that tied through shell companies to Ivan Fursin [uk], a Ukrainian Member of Parliament of the Party of Regions.[114] Manafort spokesman Jason Maloni maintained in response, "Manafort is not indebted to Deripaska or the Party of Regions, nor was he at the time he began working for the Trump campaign."[114] During the 2016 Presidential campaign, Manafort, via Kilimnik, offered to provide briefings on political developments to Deripaska, though there is no evidence that the briefings took place.[116][117] A July 2017 application by the FBI for a search warrant revealed that a company controlled by Manafort and his wife had received a $10 million loan from Deripaska.[118][119]
According to leaked text messages between his daughters, Manafort was also one of the proponents of violent removal of the Euromaidan protesters, which resulted in police shooting dozens of people during 2014 Hrushevskoho Street riots. In one of the messages, his daughter writes that it was his "strategy that was to cause that, to send those people out and get them slaughtered."[120] Manafort has rejected questions about whether Kilimnik, with whom he consulted regularly, might be in league with Russian intelligence.[121] According to Yuri Shvets, Kilimnik previously worked for the GRU, and every bit of information about his work with Manafort went directly to Russian intelligence.[122] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort In Miami he miscalculated how near he is to another federal indictment. He should have chartered his way out. Trump's pardon got him three houses and a bank account back, but maybe he still owes Deripaska. Somebody and something is definitely catching up with him, possibly from his Ukraine days. As others mention, maybe he wants to "help" oligarchs from the safety of Dubai. Maybe his wife and daughters, sick of him, notified the TSA & FBI. So much complicated shadiness surrounds him. When the Jan6 hearings blow the roof off the House, I hope he's even a small part of their factual case. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #41)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 12:57 AM
niyad (98,980 posts)
59. This deserves its own OP for visiblity.
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:03 PM
SheltieLover (57,073 posts)
30. K&R!
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:08 PM
FakeNoose (28,433 posts)
34. 2020: Chump PARDONS Manafort before leaving office
That's the last piece of the puzzle.
Manafort won't throw Chump under the bus now, will he? It's not likely. ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #34)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:11 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
35. The pardon couldn't cover anything after the date of the pardon.
And anyway, the pardon only covers specific financial crime convictions (listed in the official text, in the link below). It doesn't cover anything not listed, such as espionage/sabotage for a foreign power.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1349071/download So, Turd can't protect Manafort, and Manafort won't be likely to protect Turd. |
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #35)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:33 PM
BlueIdaho (12,993 posts)
37. Manafort's Pardon is null and void
If he failed to admit to any crimes he committed during the scope of the pardon period.
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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #37)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 02:25 PM
ancianita (30,916 posts)
42. Interesting point, thanks. So probably that is why he's been held stateside.
He must know indictments are ahead.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 02:13 PM
Kid Berwyn (11,556 posts)
39. Explains why Dimdonnie purged FBI of Russia counterintelligence experts.
Conspiracy to commit treason.
Trump’s Top Targets in the Russia Probe Are Experts in Organized Crime Some of President Trump’s favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering, particularly as they pertain to Russia. NATASHA BERTRAND The Atlantic, AUG 30, 2018 Bruce Ohr. Lisa Page. Andrew Weissmann. Andrew McCabe. President Donald Trump has relentlessly attacked these FBI and Justice Department officials as dishonest “Democrats” engaged in a partisan “witch hunt” led by the special counsel determined to tie his campaign to Russia. But Trump’s attacks have also served to highlight another thread among these officials and others who have investigated his campaign: their extensive experience in probing money laundering and organized crime, particularly as they pertain to Russia. snip... Trump’s latest obsession is with Bruce Ohr, a career Justice Department official who spent years investigating Russian organized crime and corruption—an expertise he shared with another Trump target named Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence operative who provided valuable intelligence on Russia to the State Department and the FBI’s Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force prior to authoring the Trump-Russia dossier in 2016. Ohr and Steele met in 2007, according to The New York Times, and stayed in touch as a result of their shared interests and mutual respect. Trump has tweeted about Ohr nearly a dozen times this month alone, complaining about his relationship with Steele and Ohr’s wife’s past work for Fusion GPS—the opposition-research firm that hired Steele in 2016 to research Trump’s Russia ties. snip... Trump’s fixation with seeing Ohr ousted from the Justice Department could be perceived as yet another attempt to undermine the credibility of the people who have investigated him. It could also be interpreted as an attack on someone with deep knowledge of the shady characters Trump and his cohort have been linked to, including Semion Mogilevich, the Russian mob boss, and Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum magnate close to Putin who did business with Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort. (Incidentally, another Manafort associate, the Ukrainian billionaire Dmitry Firtash, admitted that he only managed to be in business because Mogilevich allowed him to be, according to a leaked 2008 State Department cable.) Ohr was involved in banning Deripaska from the U.S. in 2006, due to his alleged ties to organized crime and fear that he would try to launder money into American real estate. Nearly a decade later, Ohr and the FBI sought Deripaska’s help in taking down overseas criminal syndicates. Snip... The president has denied having any business ties to Russia, and his dream of building a Trump Tower Moscow never materialized. But his links to Russian oligarchs and mobsters from the former Soviet Union have been documented: Millions of dollars from the former Soviet Union flowed into Trump’s developments and casinos throughout the 1990s, as the journalist Craig Unger has chronicled, as oligarchs looked for a place to hide their money in the West. The Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, was once known as a hot spot for Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian Mafia, and quickly became the “favorite East Coast destination” of the top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov, according to the 2000 book Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America. It was also repeatedly cited by the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for having inadequate money-laundering controls. Continues... https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/trumps-top-targets-in-the-russia-probe-are-experts-in-organized-crime/569056/ As PRESIDENT Trump targeted the FBI Witch Hunters who were tracking Putin and his Mafiya. And then, after they all got caught, he pardoned Manafort. |
Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #39)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 02:15 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
40. All those purged should be brought back in.
They will be quite motivated to dig deeply.
Of course, that's why Garland wouldn't allow that. |
Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #39)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 01:09 AM
niyad (98,980 posts)
60. Glad to see that the article also mentioned Peter Strozk, who dealt with
counterintelligence about russia.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 02:26 PM
Joinfortmill (10,705 posts)
43. It's spelled TREASON
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 02:35 PM
FirstLight (13,081 posts)
46. Thank yu for clarifying this so well...
Fuckin' DUBAI
yeah, watch what rocks they try to slither under and you'll find where their money is stashed too ... |
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 03:39 PM
BobTheSubgenius (11,360 posts)
48. Your OP makes the whole exercise seem so....tawdry.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 04:20 PM
ultralite001 (885 posts)
49. Any notes on others traveling to Dubai of late??? Who else was involved in Manafort's meetup???
and where???
Golf tournament??? Formula One??? Foreign currency exchange -- dollars to rubles??? Trescon World Blockchain Summit - Dubai - 03/23/2022??? [link:https://tresconglobal.com/conferences/blockchain/dubai/|] |
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 04:28 PM
bucolic_frolic (36,164 posts)
50. Yup. A pattern is a pattern and it all makes sense.
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 04:48 PM
erronis (12,340 posts)
51. Unfortunately there are lots of ways of leaving the country without going through
checkpointed border control. Many quite luxurious yachts are all around Florida and they don't need any paperwork to head out of town. Quick stop in some not-too-controlled island, board a private jet, and off you go.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 05:50 PM
flying_wahini (5,011 posts)
54. You forgot he picked VP Pence.
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 09:21 PM
Blue Owl (43,835 posts)
55. Fuck the Fartoman
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 09:44 PM
Hotler (10,170 posts)
56. 2022: Trump still walks free.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:19 AM
Evolve Dammit (14,237 posts)
65. Can "We the People" get the damn un-redacted Mueller report???? Losing faith rapidly
Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:25 AM
themaguffin (3,432 posts)
66. Free should be in quotes; Not sure if the plaform change was in secret, but yeah, for sure he's at
the center of all of this.
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Response to themaguffin (Reply #66)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:30 AM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
67. The change was in secret; it took a long time to figure out who did it.
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support
"Updated at 3:36 p.m. E.D.T. on December 4. President Trump may have been involved with a change to the Republican Party campaign platform last year that watered down support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine, according to new information from someone who was involved. Diana Denman, a Republican delegate who supported arming U.S. allies in Ukraine, has told people that Trump aide J.D. Gordon said at the Republican Convention in 2016 that Trump directed him to support weakening that position in the official platform." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-ukraine-platform_n_59f72c88e4b07fdc5fbf9007 Paul Manafort's Indictment Sheds More Light On Pro-Russia Change To GOP Platform The former Trump campaign chairman is charged with laundering millions from Vladimir Putin's allies in Ukraine. By Igor Bobic Oct. 30, 2017, 11:10 AM EDT | Updated Oct. 30, 2017 The conspiracy and money laundering charges against former Donald Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort raise new questions about a mysterious pro-Russia change to the Republican Party platform made at the 2016 GOP convention in Cleveland. Manafort, along with business associate Rick Gates, were indicted Monday as part of the investigation into Russian meddling in last year’s presidential election led by special counsel Robert Mueller. Both Trump and Manafort denied having anything to do with the last-minute change to the party platform. But the financial benefits Manafort received from pro-Russia politicians in Ukraine, as detailed in the charges against him, intensifies the skepticism that has long surrounded his denial. The 12-count grand jury indictment alleges that Manafort and Gates “generated tens of millions of dollars in income” as a result of their lobbying for pro-Russian interests in Ukraine. “In order to hide Ukraine payments from United States authorities, from approximately 2006 through at least 2016, Manafort and Gates laundered the money through scores of United States and foreign corporations, partnerships, and bank accounts,” the indictment says. In total, $75 million flowed through Manafort and Gates’ offshore accounts, according to the indictment. Manafort allegedly laundered $18 million, while Gates allegedly laundered $3 million. The change to the GOP platform dropped a call for the U.S. to provide arms to Ukraine in response to aggressive moves by Russia that included the occupation and eventual annexation of the Crimea province from Ukraine in 2014. After the annexation, Russian President Vladimir Putin continued to fuel violent unrest in other parts of the Ukraine. The amendment to the Republican platform came as a surprise just days before Trump was officially nominated for president at the party’s convention. Two Republican National Committee officials privately acknowledged at the time that Trump’s campaign pushed for the change. Trump denied involvement, however. “I wasn’t involved in that. Honestly, I was not involved,” Trump said. |