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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,212 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 03:14 PM Mar 2022

Putin ally warns of nuclear dystopia due to United States

LONDON (Reuters) - One of President Vladimir Putin's closest allies warned the United States on Wednesday that the world could spiral towards a nuclear dystopia if Washington pressed on with what the Kremlin casts as a long-term plot to destroy Russia.

Dmitry Medvedev, who was president from 2008 to 2012 and is now deputy secretary of Russia's Security Council, said the United States had conspired to destroy Russia as part of an "primitive game" since the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union.

"It means Russia must be humiliated, limited, shattered, divided and destroyed," Medvedev, 56, said in a 550-word statement.

The views of Medvedev, once considered to be one of the least hawkish members of Putin's circle, gives an insight into the thinking within the Kremlin as Moscow faces in the biggest confrontation with the West since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-ally-says-united-states-075006672.html

If you can't get your way you'll pull a murder/suicide.

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Putin ally warns of nuclear dystopia due to United States (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 OP
Who really knows putler's health (both physical & mental) condition? Justice matters. Mar 2022 #1
Putin is displaying an insistence on maintaining control over semantics. It won't work. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2022 #2
Throwing around the word "nuclear" is a point of leverage for them.. tman Mar 2022 #3
We should be hoping against hope the generals in charge of such weapons.... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2022 #4

Justice matters.

(6,941 posts)
1. Who really knows putler's health (both physical & mental) condition?
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 04:54 PM
Mar 2022

What if Russian doctors told him he's got 6 months left to live and then went totally bezerk upstairs, saying to himself he will "take the world down with him"

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
2. Putin is displaying an insistence on maintaining control over semantics. It won't work.
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 05:00 PM
Mar 2022

Putin is defining "Russia" as including UKR. Therefore, any "foreign intrusion" onto UKR soil is an invasion of Russia. He can arguably be defined as having a serious psychological disorder because he is not accepting the reality of UKR sovereignty. UKR is not his possession. If Putin is humiliated, it is from his own doing. No one asked him to go to war in UKR. No one asked him to declare UKR as part of Russia. Putin is not being backed into a corner-- to cite a rhetorical morsel promoted by some in the MSM. He's backed into a corner if foreign forces are invading Russia. Instead, he went on a murderous adventure. "Backing into a corner" should not be a frame reserved for Putin. He overextended, he's out on a limb by his own design, and the limb is cracking. It's his doing. A nuke isn't going to bolster the strength of the limb.

tman

(983 posts)
3. Throwing around the word "nuclear" is a point of leverage for them..
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 05:15 PM
Mar 2022

They have no other cards. Seeing how western media has reacted, I expect them to keep on using it.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,379 posts)
4. We should be hoping against hope the generals in charge of such weapons....
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 05:43 PM
Mar 2022

Those who are needed to actually fire them, are in close and constant talks with their American counterparts.

We need to trust that there are rational members of the top tier of the Russian military that do not want nuclear Armageddon, in spite of the threatening and posturing of Putin.

From what I understand, a rational mindset among the top brass of the Soviet military is what kept the threat of nuclear exchange during the Cuban Missile Crisis (and for that matter, the rest of the Cold War in its entirety) at bay. There were several at the top that knew Khrushchev was a bit nuts and didn’t want to destroy the world any more than we did. According to the stories I’ve read about that point in history is our generals were constantly talking to their generals and our mid level diplomats were doing the same.


Let us hope the same is happening now. I don’t doubt it is, but I am worried about its effectiveness.

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