So, imaginary WMDs in the hands of Saddam, who neither occupied or invaded a sovereign

[Samrob]

nation..(and don't bring up Kuwait which was not what we purported it to be) was much more serious and warranted troops on the ground than actual WMDs in the hands of the aggressor Putin? NATO, to me, cannot be seen as frozen by fear of Putin's nuke threats. If it is predicted that he will use those weapons no matter what, then NATO needs to get its act together and trounce Putin inside Russia sooner rather than later. We don't need troops on the ground to do that. And while we were willing to allow Israel to bomb the hell out of Iran in hopes of the Iranians rising up to overthrow their regime, it appears that we are unwilling to do the same with Putin and Russia. There are many people inside Russia who are willing, and I dare say preparing already, to oust Putin. A little help from NATO might turn the tide. Right now, the resistance inside Russia sees no help coming their way. If they did, things might be different inside Russia.

[Shellback Squid]

1. Kuwait

[Sherman A1]

2. Iran, Kuwait

Were both invaded by Saddam , perhaps a few facts would help.

[Samrob]

7. You must not know the * of both situations.

Iraq accused Kuwait of "slant drilling" and had actually sought help from the US to get Kuwait to stop. More stories about this are in the archives of the media but mostly kept hidden now.
https://billmoyers.com/2014/06/27/the-first-iraq-war-was-also-sold-to-the-public-based-on-a-pack-of-lies/

Some of the story is the above link. It's complicated but the true history is being revised as usual.

No, I won't remove my post but you can trash it. I lived thru this and watched every media story on this at the time. There is more to this story including including reports of comments to Iraqi officials by our UN reps before Saddam invaded if you can find those reports now.

[The Jungle 1]

10. From your article.

"Saddam Hussein’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait was just as illegal as the US invasion that would ultimately oust him 13 years later — it was neither an act of self-defense, nor did the UN Security Council authorize it."
This is from the article that you cite!
https://billmoyers.com/2014/06/27/the-first-iraq-war-was-also-sold-to-the-public-based-on-a-pack-of-lies/

[Sherman A1]

11. Please keep your post up

Your lack of facts to support the statement you made is very telling.

[obamanut2012]

3. Much incorrect information in your OP

Please correct or self delete.

[Samrob]

12. What was happening then

https://www.counterpunch.org/2011/01/05/did-the-us-really-give-saddam-fake-ok-to-invade-kuwait/
https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-trending/saddam-us-kuwait-permitted-invasion/

https://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/iraqkuwait.html

He believed that Kuwait is a part of Iraqi sovereign land. He greatly needed Kuwait's oil to repay war debts. Why did the United States support and sell arms to Iraq during its war with Iran? (sound familiar?)

Not taking sides just showing what some of the thinking and beliefs were back then.

[David__77]

4. Biden said no.

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[gab13by13]

5. Your post is another example of right wing talking points, the 2nd one today I have seen on DU,

The Putin Party (GQP) is going to use the same talking point in the 2022 election, that president Biden was weak, that he should have done more. This is the 2nd post so far today that has repeated this talking point.

If there are many people inside Russia ready to oust Putin, how do you explain the 200,000 people who just demonstrated in the streets in support of Putin? How do you explain the mothers of dead Russian soldiers proclaiming their sons were heroes?

I support what president Biden is doing, keeping NATO and our allies united and not escalating the war.

[Captain Stern]

6. "...and don't bring up Kuwait" You should write for The Onion. n/t

[ret5hd]

13. ...or Pravda.

(fixed that for ya’. you’re welcome)

[CrackityJones75]

8. There is nothing about the iraq war

There is nothing about the iraq war that should be used to justify or to keep us from entering any other war or military situation.

[The Jungle 1]

9. But But But

Shrub said saddam had weapons of mass destruction. He said it over and over and over. It must have been true.
Plus Mexico is going to pay for the wall.
Remember that actor guy reagan. He was going to balance the budget, cut taxes and increase defense spending! Now that was a whopper and the whole nation bought it. He won by a landslide and was never held accountable for his lie. He tripled our deficit!
We should start point out how much republicans lie. Ok that was the political part.

Kuwait is a nation.
I support everything Joe and the world are doing to crush russia. We are bombing the hell out of russian troops. The bombs Ukraine use come from Joe and the world. The crushing sanctions come from Joe and the world. Ukraine is doing a fantastic job and russia will never win the peace. Ukraine is blowing up russian tanks and the russian tank factory can't get parts!!! We must crush the russian economy for decades. The world will replace their oil. The world is not dependant on russian oil. Russians are fighting over sugar in the stores and the shelves are empty. There is no path to victory for puketin.

[MissMillie]

14. If I remember correctly...

most of here at this site were not convinced about the WMD or the need to invade Iraq.

[uponit7771]

15. +1,