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So TFG is suing Hillary, the DNC, AND Marc Elias? A RICO lawsuit? (Original Post) FelineOverlord Mar 2022 OP
does TFG not understand the concept of "DISCOVERY"? nt Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #1
I'm hoping it lands in a courtroom for that very reason. Rustynaerduwell Mar 2022 #2
he's an idiot nt Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #3
More importantly, do his lawyers understand Rules 11 and 12(b)(6). TomSlick Mar 2022 #8
"Rule 11 is trending...." Sogo Mar 2022 #4
Rule 11, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure TomSlick Mar 2022 #9
Is it even possible for an individual citizen to file a RICO Suit?!?! Volaris Mar 2022 #15
Don't forget the 10 John Doe's and 10 ABC Companies. WTF? madinmaryland Mar 2022 #5
My dad was shouting in rejoice for Trump's suits. Claustrum Mar 2022 #6
Don't forget the 10 John Doe's and 10 ABC Companies. WTF? madinmaryland Mar 2022 #7
That's probably the only part of the Complaint that makes sense. TomSlick Mar 2022 #12
A new way to get more $$$ from his loyal fans. BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #10
It's his shotgun offense is the best defense. Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #11
It's that same obscure, incompetent lawyer Alina Habba Ocelot II Mar 2022 #13
Basically it's another case of projection from Trump. Chicago1980 Mar 2022 #14
The author of the complaint sounds totally delusional. C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #16
Projection. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2022 #17
RICO is a criminal statute iemanja Mar 2022 #18
There are civil RICO cases - not that this is legitimately one of them. Ocelot II Mar 2022 #19
How do they work? iemanja Mar 2022 #20
A private party can file a lawsuit claiming the same elements Ocelot II Mar 2022 #25
Interesting iemanja Mar 2022 #26
Diarrhea Donny just put his own full diaper on his own fat head Blue Owl Mar 2022 #21
TFG cannot hire even third tier lawyers LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #22
That one is just practice. Next up: Buns_of_Fire Mar 2022 #23
Russia, if you're listening... moondust Mar 2022 #24

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
8. More importantly, do his lawyers understand Rules 11 and 12(b)(6).
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:24 PM
Mar 2022

If the case is not quickly dismissed under Rule 12(b)(6) for failing to state a cause of action, there will likely be sanctions under Rule 11 when the case is over.

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
9. Rule 11, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:26 PM
Mar 2022

allows for sanctions against the client and lawyers for lawsuits with no basis in law or fact.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
15. Is it even possible for an individual citizen to file a RICO Suit?!?!
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:40 PM
Mar 2022

Cause if it is, we here need to hire some lawyers and start suing the everliving FUCK outta the RNC for conspiracy against the United States Electoral College lol...

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
6. My dad was shouting in rejoice for Trump's suits.
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:23 PM
Mar 2022

He thinks Trump will win all of them and all the democrats will go bankrupt. Trump is doing this so his base can say that. Nevermind it will go nowhere and dismiss timely at a judge. I am sure I won't hear anything from my dad about these suits again.

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
12. That's probably the only part of the Complaint that makes sense.
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:29 PM
Mar 2022

Listing "John Doe" defendants allows the tolling of the statute of limitations to allow time to learn the identity of unknown defendants. Of course, when your complaint doesn't state a cause of action, naming John Doe defendants is a futile gesture.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
10. A new way to get more $$$ from his loyal fans.
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:27 PM
Mar 2022

Every single thing he does from morning until night is done with one goal...ripping off more people so he can golf and pay his legal bills.

Liberal In Texas

(13,531 posts)
11. It's his shotgun offense is the best defense.
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:28 PM
Mar 2022

These privileged assholes use the courts to throw sand in the air and to delay process long enough that it becomes moot or the other parties give up.

A ridiculously long brief and multiple respondents to waste the courts time going through this mess. And in this case it is accusing the accusers to muddy the issue.

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
13. It's that same obscure, incompetent lawyer Alina Habba
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:34 PM
Mar 2022

who takes TFG's terrible cases and does a terrible job with them, pissing off judges and earning the scorn and derision even of TFG's other terrible lawyers. https://abovethelaw.com/2022/03/trump-lawyers-snark-that-attorney-alina-habba-is-aggressive-and-sloppy-unlike-their-client/

Now she's doubled down and has thrown all manner of legal shit at the wall, hoping some will stick. I expect she'll bring down Rule 11 sanctions on her ass, and maybe get herself suspended or disbarred, like legal lepers Rudy Colludy and Sydney Powell.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
14. Basically it's another case of projection from Trump.
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 10:39 PM
Mar 2022

We all know he's guilty of RICO.

He pretty much advertises and boasts about what he's done.

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
25. A private party can file a lawsuit claiming the same elements
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 11:35 AM
Mar 2022

as in a criminal RICO case. The RICO statute contains a specific provision under which a private party, usually a business entity, can file a civil suit in federal court against a person, corporation or other entity claiming they violated the RICO statute in the same manner as if there was a criminal prosecution. The plaintiff would have to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that, in violation of 18 USC §1962, the defendant participated in the conduct of an enterprise via a pattern of racketeering activity, and that as a result the plaintiff’s business was injured.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,919 posts)
22. TFG cannot hire even third tier lawyers
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 12:18 AM
Mar 2022

This lawsuit is a joke and the attorneys who filed it are not even third tier attorneys. TFG could get an attorney he knew in High School to file this amusing lawsuit





In addition, this idiot is involved



Buns_of_Fire

(17,153 posts)
23. That one is just practice. Next up:
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 12:29 AM
Mar 2022

DONALD J. TMURP, Plaintiff
v.
JOHN DOES 1 THROUGH 81,268,924, Defendants...

...On or about Tuesday, November 3, 2020, DEFENDANTS did willfully and with malice intent vote to remove PLAINTIFF from his Rightful and God-Given Position as President of the United Srates of America...

(You know this is authentic because of the misspellings.)

moondust

(19,958 posts)
24. Russia, if you're listening...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 01:02 AM
Mar 2022

please tell everybody that my pee tapes and that Trump Tower meeting with Veselnitskaya and Manafort and all the other stuff was just a conspiracy to make me look compromised. Just have your state media say none of it really happened, okay? Spasibo.

DJT

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