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Joinfortmill

(21,931 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 08:06 AM Mar 2022

Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, the U.S. Constitution & a wake-up call to us all

Letters from an American:

'Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson endured vicious attacks from Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, who vow to reject her confirmation...the hearings inspired Republicans to challenge many of the civil rights decisions that most Americans believe are settled law....The rights Republicans challenged this week included the right to use birth control, access abortion, marry across racial lines, and marry a same-sex partner

A 2019 speech by then–attorney general William Barr at the University of Notre Dame offers an explanation...by “self-government,” the Framers did not mean the ability of people to vote for representatives of their choice. Rather, he said, they meant individual morality: the ability to govern oneself. And, since people are inherently wicked, that self-government requires the authority of a religion: Christianity.'

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/march-25-2022?s=r

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Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, the U.S. Constitution & a wake-up call to us all (Original Post) Joinfortmill Mar 2022 OP
The nutbars rise, at least every 100 years BootinUp Mar 2022 #1
It is a world wide phenomena. gordianot Mar 2022 #3
Putin and the Eastern Orthodox church.... paleotn Mar 2022 #6
Could be. jaxexpat Mar 2022 #7
More often than that.... lastlib Mar 2022 #14
That second paragraph... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #2
He thinks that people are inherently evil and colorado_ufo Mar 2022 #11
But that's what... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #15
I am so very sorry that happened to you. colorado_ufo Mar 2022 #17
That's the exact opposite... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #20
That is all that is needed. colorado_ufo Mar 2022 #21
Geez. Heading toward a new inquisition if these people actually end the PatrickforB Mar 2022 #4
Classic reactionaries. paleotn Mar 2022 #5
Very old white men are not representative of the populace. People don't change, but good news, ... L. Coyote Mar 2022 #8
Hate to say it, but sometimes that's what it takes.... paleotn Mar 2022 #9
And I'll be one of them soon enough. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #12
Exactly. paleotn Mar 2022 #13
The Party of No. frogmarch Mar 2022 #10
Allright, Barr did it. stillspkg Mar 2022 #16
Scary. People are not inherently wicked... ananda Mar 2022 #18
Oh. My. God. summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #19
 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
7. Could be.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:05 AM
Mar 2022

If that's the case this time around again, the twenty-thirties should be real entertaining. In planning for such eventuality it would be a good time to elect another Franklin Roosevelt in a couple of cycles. Not much can be done for a society which adheres to a high tolerance for hypocrisy and targeted mean-spiritedness.

lastlib

(28,842 posts)
14. More often than that....
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:30 AM
Mar 2022

They're like locusts--they live underground for seventeen years, then emerge, make a lot of noise until they're exhausted, lather, rinse, repeat. Our problem is that they're not becoming exhausted as quickly now. We have got to cut off their energy source so they go burrow again. And to keep them from reproducing in such numbers.

2naSalit

(104,860 posts)
2. That second paragraph...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 09:22 AM
Mar 2022

What a pile of self-appointed authoritarian poo! And the explanation of why organized region was designed.

colorado_ufo

(6,270 posts)
11. He thinks that people are inherently evil and
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:25 AM
Mar 2022

sets out to make himself an example to prove his point.

2naSalit

(104,860 posts)
15. But that's what...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:37 AM
Mar 2022

christians believe. Had it crammed down my throat in my younger years. I was screamed at and told I was evil and that only by being baptized could I be seen as anything else. Since I refused, I was even called a snake by the severe zealots in the bunch.

They really get upset when you don't see things their way, sadly, their way is absurd.

colorado_ufo

(6,270 posts)
17. I am so very sorry that happened to you.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:54 AM
Mar 2022

I am a Christian, and I am a very flawed person, but I don't believe that people are inherently evil. I believe that humanity is a work in progress, and we all need to work to improve ourselves.

I find it interesting that your church felt that way about baptism. Jesus was without sin, and yet He presented himself to be baptized by John. To me, baptism is a commitment to try to live the best life we can under Christian principles, a commitment made either by ourselves or by our parents to raise us in those principles.

2naSalit

(104,860 posts)
20. That's the exact opposite...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mar 2022

Of what they were actually foisting upon us, though. They said those things you describe but they were all about subjugation using the cherry picked verses of choice as justification.

I managed to survive long enough to get away from them, now I don't have many questions about what is what. Just walk the walk and everything comes around in some form.

PatrickforB

(15,554 posts)
4. Geez. Heading toward a new inquisition if these people actually end the
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 09:31 AM
Mar 2022

republic and take power.

Silly me, I guess I'd rather have healthcare than live in a right-wing 'christian' theocracy.

paleotn

(23,085 posts)
5. Classic reactionaries.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 09:53 AM
Mar 2022

The more they realize they cannot take society back to a time when people who look like them were ascendant in all things, the more radical they become. We're seeing that play out in real time this week. In essence, they're unamerican and should be labeled as such everywhere, every time. They simply don't believe in America's ethos if it applies to ANYONE other than people who look just like them. In defense of their reactionism, many like Barr seize on some of the more base thoughts of a few of the founders, like fear of the mob (John Adams) or the ascendancy of religion (Patrick Henry), and miss the whole idea of America...on purpose. Lucky for us, more progressive minds won most of the ideological battles back then.

The central ideas of America scares their little hearts and hurts their little minds. Luckily for us, they're dying off and the America that's emerging is very different than the one they, and I, grew up in. And some of us old folks are goddamn happy about that, so go pound sand, Bill Barr. I'll rejoice on the day he and those like him start that long, dirt nap.



L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
8. Very old white men are not representative of the populace. People don't change, but good news, ...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:07 AM
Mar 2022

old people die.

paleotn

(23,085 posts)
9. Hate to say it, but sometimes that's what it takes....
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:17 AM
Mar 2022

Father time clearing out the dead wood.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
12. And I'll be one of them soon enough.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:26 AM
Mar 2022

This is why we have battles for the minds of the youth, book banning and political policing of education.

stillspkg

(211 posts)
16. Allright, Barr did it.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:40 AM
Mar 2022

All Bibles are being recalled and reissued after an inventory.
This includes: heirlooms, antiques, collections, personal…every shape, size
and versión.

Bibles should be brought in person to your voting precinct to make things easier. Voting precincts that have been closed must be re-opened and remain that way. There shall be one voting precinct for every group of 200 persons. Many will new sites will be located, and again, are to remain open.
Complete versions of the Orthodox Bible, including the Old Testament, Psalms and New Testament only.

Personal Bibles will be re-issued to owners based on the following:
1. Ability to understand mature content.
2. Ability to apply content to yourself before applying it to anyone else.
3. Ability to think pluralistically
4. Evidence of having integrated the heart of the Gospel so it is reflected in everything you do.
5. An answer from your own experience to Jesus’ question , “who do you say that I am?” that matches his life and ministry
6. For Bible teachers, a record of the number of times you responded, “I don’t know.”
7. Your understanding of basic tenants: “all people”, “the Greatest Commandment,” “neighbor,” the Ten Commandments”, “The Beatitudes”, Jesus Death and Resurrection.

If unable to respond compassionately to those questions your Bible will be reissued to someone else.

The categories for issuance of Bibles will be as follows:

Groups:

Evangelicals and other Biblical literalists:
Short Version: 20O pages of the
Greatest Commandment

Those who have been abused by wicked persons posing as followers: The Psalms and New Testament

Change Resisters: The New Testament. Gospels only with Jesus’ words in Red.

Collectors: Shiny Bible Cover with blank pages. Cover is designed to attract dust to aid in ritual polishing.
“Literally Bound to Impress”

Exclusive Dogmatic Groups and clubs: New and improved Version with all of the difficult concepts removed.

Those who let others think for them:
no Bible. Apparently you don’t read it.

ananda

(35,825 posts)
18. Scary. People are not inherently wicked...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:59 AM
Mar 2022

People are not inherently wicked,
and they have the right to individual
conscience.

Morality should NEVER be legislated.

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