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[uponit7771]

1. K&R, WS Wife got compared to a beautiful badass shero in a movie and he went caveman but most

... who want to minimum bothside the issue don't see too much wrong even LEGALLY in the battery Smith committed.

This is how people like Trump get away with it; too many republicans justifying his bullshit.

[pnwmom]

5. Not everyone hears the title of a 25 year old movie and instantly

connects that it's about a "beautiful badass hero." It meant no more to me than if he'd said she should be GI Joe.

But Demi Moore played a character who WANTED to shave her head, not someone who very reluctantly did it because of her disease.

[BlueTsunami2018]

2. "Them's fightin' words..."

It may not be ok as such but it is something you see quite often in real life. I’ve seen many a person take a beating for talking shit. These circumstances are a bit different though. A fifty year-old man, on national tv, responding like this to a dumb joke from a comedian is not the kind of behavior you expect to see. This is a kids on the playground or drunks in a bar kind of thing. Smith came off like an unhinged whack job who has serious emotional problems. You’re supposed to have more self control than that.

On the other hand, there’s only so much disrespect one should be expected to take. If you keep mouthing off to someone, eventually you’re going to get punched in the mouth and deserve it. I don’t think this was enough to cross that threshold but the Smiths have been the butt of jokes for a while now, perhaps this was just the last straw for him and Chris became a convenient target for that pent up frustration.

It wasn’t a good look no matter how you slice it and certainly should have been handled differently.

[elias7]

3. Well that depends, and it's certainly not as simple as you frame it

This wasn’t someone saying something Will Smith didn’t like, this was someone humiliating and body shaming his wife (who has shaved her head to cover her alopecia condition) on national television, him seeing the pain she felt from the “joke”, and with her recent infidelity and his presumed need to show he could defend his wife, he lost control.

There are times to turn the other cheek and there are times when there is a call to action. You can’t just lump them all together as “someone saying something you don’t like”, because it was much more than that.

Suppose someone was ridiculing your spouse in public. Are you going to just stand there and take it? Would you defend your spouse’s honor? And is your cloak of civility masking cowardice or true pacifism? Smacking someone for bad mouthing your spouse is certainly a time honored romanticized response, especially in the movies.

[Jedi Guy]

10. "Are you going to just stand there and take it?"

Assuming that simply leaving is possible, that's what I'd do. If not, I (and my wife) would simply ignore it. I most certainly wouldn't walk over and put hands on the person doing the ridiculing.

Know why? Because I'm not a toddler and I have self-control, as does my wife. Also, there are precisely six people on planet Earth whose opinions/thoughts truly matter to me. If anyone outside that group ridicules me or my wife, I really don't give a damn. The most important reason I wouldn't put hands on this hypothetical person is that the first person in line to call me a dumbshit after the fact would be my wife. She would be disappointed in me for that loss of control, and as you might imagine, she's one of those six people.

I'll grant you that it's highly unlikely that someone will ever ridicule my wife in front of a global audience, but I don't think that really changes anything. Putting hands on the person doing the ridiculing is still not the correct response. Time-honored tradition in film notwithstanding, real life isn't a movie.

[Paladin]

13. Thanks for being the adult in the room. (nt)

[pnwmom]

4. Of course not. Is it okay to joke about someone publicly for having a disease? Of course not. nt

[Whiskeytide]

6. It must be a mental disorder that causes ...

… people to read “violence is ok” when people type “making fun of a women’s medical condition is shitty”. It’s a fascinating phenomenon.

[hlthe2b]

15. +++

[Sympthsical]

7. Which is weird

Since she worked so hard to make him a joke to the entire world.

Can we talk about how Jada has victimized Will the past couple of years? Where’s that thread?

That slap didn’t come from nowhere.

[BlackSkimmer]

8. No kidding. This weird couple have put their entire life out there for everyone to see.

No filters.

I recently read some excerpts from his book. Truly ick.

[Walleye]

9. I think this depends on the physical size of the insulter and the insulted

Men who are big and strong often think they have a right to smack people. Especially if they know there’s no consequences. Smith must be 5 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier than Rock.

[Jedi Guy]

11. As someone here on DU pointed out...

If Dwayne Johnson had been the one making the joke about Jada's shaved head, it's highly doubtful Will Smith would've walked up and smacked him.

[Walleye]

12. Exactly. A fact that seems to be overlooked and most of the coverage

[luv2fly]

14. Don't make fun of how people look

It's pretty simple and it's something most were taught as children. If you do, you might get hit.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

16. Violence is ok, if you're a star, if you're famous.

So said The Former Guy. You can grab someone by the pussy, if you're a star.

I don't think it would be ok if you or I used violence. We (or, at least, I) are lacking the fame, fortune.

[The Jungle 1]

17. I do not agree with what happened.

But I still think it was staged. Look at Rock in this video. He is sticking his chin out. Also men do not smack they punch.
This was a staged event.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. Honestly it is fascinating to me to see how different interpersonal relations are for so many of us.