Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:17 PM
FM123 (9,662 posts)
Russian Troops Suffer 'Acute Radiation Sickness' After Digging Chernobyl Trenches
(Daily Beast) Several hundred Russian soldiers were forced to hastily withdraw from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine after suffering “acute radiation sickness” from contaminated soil, according to Ukrainian officials.
The troops, who dug trenches in a contaminated Red Forest near the site of the worst nuclear disaster in history, are now reportedly being treated in a special medical facility in Gomel, Belarus. The forest is so named because thousands of pine trees turned red during the 1986 nuclear disaster. The area is considered so highly toxic that not even highly specialized Chernobyl workers are allowed to enter the zone. snip “Not surprisingly, the occupiers received significant doses of radiation and panicked at the first sign of illness. And it showed up very quickly.” Local reports suggest that seven buses with the zapped troops arrived in Gomel early Thursday. Journalists on the ground have also reported “ghost buses” of dead soldiers being transported from Belarus to Russia under the cover of dark. (Read More) https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-suffer-acute-radiation-sickness-after-digging-chernobyl-trenches
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FM123 | Mar 2022 | OP |
PortTack | Mar 2022 | #1 | |
underpants | Mar 2022 | #2 | |
Warpy | Mar 2022 | #37 | |
Wingus Dingus | Mar 2022 | #3 | |
Quakerfriend | Mar 2022 | #4 | |
SoonerPride | Mar 2022 | #7 | |
OhZone | Mar 2022 | #10 | |
SoonerPride | Mar 2022 | #14 | |
OhZone | Mar 2022 | #17 | |
uponit7771 | Mar 2022 | #22 | |
dsc | Mar 2022 | #31 | |
SoonerPride | Mar 2022 | #32 | |
Quakerfriend | Mar 2022 | #11 | |
AllaN01Bear | Mar 2022 | #5 | |
sarcasmo | Mar 2022 | #6 | |
BeyondGeography | Mar 2022 | #15 | |
sarcasmo | Mar 2022 | #16 | |
uponit7771 | Mar 2022 | #24 | |
sarcasmo | Mar 2022 | #39 | |
obamanut2012 | Mar 2022 | #28 | |
OhZone | Mar 2022 | #8 | |
Jim__ | Mar 2022 | #9 | |
Quakerfriend | Mar 2022 | #12 | |
SunSeeker | Mar 2022 | #18 | |
Kaleva | Mar 2022 | #35 | |
Crunchy Frog | Mar 2022 | #41 | |
Kaleva | Mar 2022 | #43 | |
Crunchy Frog | Mar 2022 | #44 | |
SoonerPride | Mar 2022 | #20 | |
SunSeeker | Mar 2022 | #13 | |
Initech | Mar 2022 | #19 | |
MineralMan | Mar 2022 | #21 | |
hunter | Mar 2022 | #25 | |
uponit7771 | Mar 2022 | #26 | |
Tommy Carcetti | Mar 2022 | #23 | |
halfulglas | Mar 2022 | #27 | |
Hekate | Mar 2022 | #29 | |
Hekate | Mar 2022 | #30 | |
DFW | Mar 2022 | #33 | |
Crunchy Frog | Mar 2022 | #42 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Mar 2022 | #34 | |
mahina | Mar 2022 | #36 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Mar 2022 | #38 | |
usaf-vet | Mar 2022 | #40 |
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:18 PM
PortTack (26,492 posts)
1. More of pootie's military genius on display!!
Response to PortTack (Reply #1)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:37 PM
Warpy (103,539 posts)
37. It's been almost 40 years
and anyone who knows what is buried where is long since dead, not that anyone ever admitted what they died of.
That's the problem with authoritarian, totalitarian leadership. It doesn't like unpleasant truth. |
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:23 PM
Wingus Dingus (6,673 posts)
3. Not great, not terrible.
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:23 PM
Quakerfriend (4,436 posts)
4. I can't fathom how these soldiers did
not know of the risks- They never heard about Chernobyl?
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Response to Quakerfriend (Reply #4)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:26 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
7. No, most of them are too young and never heard of it
They weren't taught about it in school either.
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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #7)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:34 PM
OhZone (3,175 posts)
10. How could they not know of it?
Like have the Russian troops never heard of the Titanic either??
I guess the west's fear mongering media stories that harp and milk fear and tragedy repeatedly year after year are actually helpful in being aware of risks like these. Oh well. |
Response to OhZone (Reply #10)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:39 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
14. Chernobyl is not taught in Russian schools because it was key factor in the fall of the USSR
So it is simply not taught.
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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #14)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:49 PM
OhZone (3,175 posts)
17. Oh?
I Never thought of it that way.
Yeah, the timing is right, huh? Thanks! |
Response to SoonerPride (Reply #14)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:31 PM
uponit7771 (86,897 posts)
22. YEP !! Kinda like MAGA wants to white wash their treason here
Response to SoonerPride (Reply #14)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:34 PM
dsc (51,285 posts)
31. I can't imagine there weren't signs around it
such as danger, radiation, etc.
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Response to dsc (Reply #31)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:37 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
32. Oh I'm sure there are plenty of warnings all over the exclusion zone.
But they may think like much of what they see in Russia, that it was just empty threats.
"Don't come in here: nuclear poisoning threat." "Yeah, sure. pffft." |
Response to SoonerPride (Reply #7)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:34 PM
Quakerfriend (4,436 posts)
11. I hadn't thought of it that way.
However, there are signs everywhere warning of the danger re: radiation within the zone.
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Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:25 PM
AllaN01Bear (9,475 posts)
5. gee , i wonder why?
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:25 PM
sarcasmo (22,148 posts)
6. Trenches, does Russia think it's 1920?
Response to sarcasmo (Reply #6)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:44 PM
BeyondGeography (38,147 posts)
15. It's where they slept
True story.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #15)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:48 PM
sarcasmo (22,148 posts)
16. Broke, joke, military.
Response to sarcasmo (Reply #16)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:36 PM
uponit7771 (86,897 posts)
24. +1, I'm starting to think the world should take their nukes away before they blow themselves up!
I recently read an article about how low on the rung Russian Army is in society.
They are NOT revered like troops are here in the US, they are bullied by Putrids mafia to so he can stay in power. |
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #24)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:39 PM
sarcasmo (22,148 posts)
39. Old nukes like Kim Jong Un's missiles.
Response to sarcasmo (Reply #6)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:58 PM
obamanut2012 (23,105 posts)
28. For warmth
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:30 PM
OhZone (3,175 posts)
8. Oh, Pootie-Poot!
What have you done?
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Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jim__ (13,414 posts)
9. Who could possibly have imagined that?
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:38 PM
Quakerfriend (4,436 posts)
12. Off topic somewhat but,
if you haven’t yet seen this, it’s a wonderful documentary about the return of wildlife to the exclusion zone:
https://m. |
Response to Quakerfriend (Reply #12)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:49 PM
SunSeeker (47,488 posts)
18. Earth truly was an Eden before people fucked it up. nt
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #18)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:04 PM
Kaleva (31,118 posts)
35. For a short period of time.
For much of Earth's history, the planet would have been a very tough place for humans and many other species to survive.
Like when the moon was much closer to the Earth and tides were hundreds of feet high and would race across continents. |
Response to Kaleva (Reply #35)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:50 PM
Crunchy Frog (26,155 posts)
41. Not good for humans, but good for the life forms that existed at the time.
Some of them were the ancestors of humans and other modern species, so we likely wouldn't be here without the Earth having existed in that state.
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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #41)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:44 PM
Kaleva (31,118 posts)
43. It was only good for a bit before conditions in Earth changed
and they then went extinct.
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Response to Kaleva (Reply #43)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:18 PM
Crunchy Frog (26,155 posts)
44. Not all of them obviously, or we wouldn't be here.
Response to Quakerfriend (Reply #12)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:24 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
20. I love this.
Thank you.
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Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:38 PM
SunSeeker (47,488 posts)
13. Insanity. Putin really just doesn't give a shit. nt
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:18 PM
Initech (92,955 posts)
19. Yeah let's dig up the site of a nuclear explosion! What could possibly go wrong?
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Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:28 PM
MineralMan (144,512 posts)
21. Clearly, leadership of Russian ground troops is not good.
Not educated. Not smart. Not able to lead their troops safely in any way. If this is typical, the Russian military is hopelessly inept.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #21)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:40 PM
hunter (35,751 posts)
25. Any "leadership" who knew were afraid to speak up about it.
That happens to some extent in the U.S.A. military but the only risk is that you are forced to become a civilian, which all things considered, may be a better life.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #21)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:41 PM
uponit7771 (86,897 posts)
26. Its worse, RA is very low on the rung in Russian society were here in the US even the private is ...
... revered and supported.
Putrids mafias who collude with the the generals and colonels steal from the military ALL THE TIME. I'm thinking this country SHOULD NOT have nukes and most likely they don't even work. They're going to blow themselves up |
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:33 PM
Tommy Carcetti (41,468 posts)
23. If you've seen Episode 4 of the Chernobyl miniseries...
...you'll know how grim a condition Acute Radiation Sickness is.
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Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:41 PM
halfulglas (1,041 posts)
27. Unfortunately, most of these soldiers' families will never know what happened.
Most of them will be MIA and the families will blame Ukraine for this, not the recklessness of their commanders forcing the soldiers to enter that contaminated area. So many of the Ukrainians warned something like this could happen when they freaked out at the Russians taking that area and the callous way they treated the Chernobyl workers at the remainder of the power plant, keeping them from having shift changes as usual. So many of them didn't know the danger. The whole area is still contaminated.
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Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:12 PM
Hekate (77,990 posts)
29. This war was abysmally planned by Putin's people. But I am also shocked that anyone here ...
… does not know how public education works in an authoritarian regime AKA a dictatorship. Of course these young soldiers never heard about the Chernobyl disaster — it happened on the USSR’s watch and it makes Russia look bad. Public information of any sort is tightly controlled — there is absolutely no “need to know” as far as the overlords are concerned.
The humanitarian disaster created by Putin the Poisoner just gets worse and worse. |
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:29 PM
Hekate (77,990 posts)
30. What was Trump said at Arlington Cemetery? That our war dead were suckers? Losers?
Putin the Poisoner goes the distance.
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Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:49 PM
DFW (48,172 posts)
33. You sure can't accuse Putin of not being innovative
Before this, he was just using his recruits as cannon fodder.
Now he has created the use of conscripts as Chernobyl fodder. How's that for a "glowing" recommendation? |
Response to DFW (Reply #33)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:17 PM
Crunchy Frog (26,155 posts)
42. Maybe he wanted to run experiments on them. I wouldn't put it past him.
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:01 PM
muriel_volestrangler (98,164 posts)
34. Experts doubt this is accurate
because you don't develop sudden radiation sickness from this kind of soil contamination - it increases your chances of cancer, instead:
Link to tweet Link to tweet Link to tweet Link to tweet Link to tweet As recommended by Cheryl Rofer, retired nuclear scientist involved in disarmament, and blogger at Balloon Juice and Lawyers, Guns and Money - both reliable liberal blogs. Link to tweet |
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #34)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:21 PM
mahina (14,917 posts)
36. Thank you.
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #34)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:39 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (17,463 posts)
38. People believe what they want to believe.
Response to FM123 (Original post)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:41 PM
usaf-vet (4,937 posts)
40. As far as this ex-medic is concerned they are human beings FIRST and enemies later. Following orders
They will likely suffer from this exposure for the remainder of their lives.
Think Agent Orange for Vietnam vets. And now depleted uranium for those that served in Iraq and Afghanistan. In all these cases, it is not just the combatants but also the civilian population. |