Poll: Fetterman leads Lamb by double digits in Pennsylvania

[AZProgressive]

John Fetterman is leading Pennsylvania’s Senate primary by double digits, according to a new poll released Thursday, a sign that the self-identified populist is sustaining the momentum he’s enjoyed for much of the race.

Fetterman earned 33.4 percent of support from Democratic primary voters in a new poll from The Hill and Emerson College.

His closest competitors, Rep. Conor Lamb (D) and state Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta (D), each earned 10 percent and 7.6 percent support respectively.

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With less than two months before the May 17 primary, however, there’s still time for voters to pick a candidate to back. Notably, more than one third of respondents – 37 percent – are currently undecided about whom to support against a not-yet-determined Republican nominee, according to the survey.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/600369-poll-fetterman-leads-lamb-by-double-digits-in-pennsylvania/

[Jerry2144]

1. It is sad that

The first digit in his two digit lead isn’t a 4 or 5. Too many disinformed MAGAts for him to have the lead where it should be.

[OnDoutside]

9. This is the Democratic primary.

[Jerry2144]

13. You're right

I was thinking this November.

[OnDoutside]

26. I think he has a great chance for November. The two leading the

GOP race are Dr Oz and a hedge fund guy McCormick. I fancy Fettermans chances in that.

[Jerry2144]

27. I still would love to see

Him with a 40-50 point lead. The repugnant Republiklan party needs a thorough thrashing this fall.

[OnDoutside]

32. That would be great. Hard to know how good the current polling is

[multigraincracker]

35. Blue collar State.

They vote too,

[Amishman]

66. Between Oz here and Walker in GA, we couldn't ask for better opponents

[hlthe2b]

2. I can't help but like Fetterman. Given the stakes in this race, that he comes off as a "fighter"

both physically and politically, is not necessarily a bad thing. He appears to be smart as a whip, too with strategic intelligence.

[Frasier Balzov]

3. If Democrats don't back Conor Lamb...

Then Conor Lamb can't be elected to the senate seat from which he launches his 2024 presidential run.

THAT would be a missed opportunity. As Joe would say, Not a Joke.

[Demsrule86]

15. I don't like Conor Lamb who barely won his district and question whether he could win a general

much less a primary.

[brooklynite]

16. Conor has no plan to run for President.

Let’s get through some Senate elections first.

[Frasier Balzov]

30. I refer you to the Barack Obama blueprint.

A first-term U.S. Senator who is fast-tracked for the highest office because his party needs electoral help at the top.

I'm old enough to remember it.

[Demsrule86]

45. Pres. Obama was a rock star and gave an amazing speech.

[Frasier Balzov]

62. Excitement is responding to something innate but it's also generated by us.

Conor Lamb has a JFK quality that I respond to. I hope he makes it to the U.S. Senate. That would be a tremendous boost for the outcome I'm talking up. At the moment, it's the key.

[Demsrule86]

79. Fetterman has a way better chance of making the primary and winning a presidential primary

and more importantly a General.

[Sugarcoated]

18. How is Lamb Presidential material if he's lukewarm in his own state?

[Demsrule86]

25. He isn't...maybe someday...but honestly I don't see it happening.

[Celerity]

38. Lamb voted to make the Trump tax cuts perm, + had the 2nd highest Trump score in the 115th Congress

He has no chance at winning the Dem POTUS primary. He is only polling at 10% in the 2022 PA Senate primary in this newest poll, his lowest poll numbers to date, and he never polled more than 16% from August 2021 onward in any poll that I have seen.

U.S. Reps. Conor Lamb and Keith Rothfus vote to extend GOP tax cuts for individuals

The proposed 'Tax Reform 2.0' would overwhelmingly benefit wealthy individuals and add trillions to the national debt.

https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsburgh/us-reps-conor-lamb-and-keith-rothfus-vote-to-extend-gop-tax-cuts-for-individuals/Content?oid=11083357

When Republicans in Congress passed a massive tax-cut bill in 2017, it drew widespread criticism, particularly the fact that the tax cuts were permanent for corporations, but temporary for individuals.

Now with the passage of H.R. 6760, aka "Tax Reform 2.0," those temporary cuts for individuals are one step closer to becoming permanent. In addition to extending the reduced individual tax rates past 2025, the proposal would also double the Child Tax Credit and restore cuts to estate-tax filings of about 5,000 of the richest American families.

And two local representatives, U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Mount Lebanon) and Keith Rothfus (R-Sewickley), backed the bill. It passed 220-191. Lamb was one of only three Democrats to back the bill.

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I am sure you will be shocked to learn that one of other 2 was.......... Sinema (plus another now Senator, Jacky Rosen, and all 3 at the time were in......... (I know, another shocker) the Lieberman-run, RW billionaire founded and backed 'bipartisan' Problem Solvers caucus of 'consistently attacking Pelosi as Speaker' and 'trying to block the BBB with advice from Manchin after the Progressive Caucus said ok, let's do it' fame)



https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/house/

[Frasier Balzov]

63. Why is he a Democrat at all?

[Celerity]

64. well, if you want to be in politics, there are only 2 real choices in the US in terms of parties

and he is far from the now almost 100% completely batshit crazy Rethug Party.

My main worry with Lamb is he could become another Manchin/Sinema style unreliable vote, something that would not occur with Fetterman or Malcolm Kenyatta.

Obviously, if Lamb wins the primary, he is a billion times better than any of the scum Rethugs in the race, and he has my full support.

I truly hope that if he does win the primary and the general, that he doesn't go all contrarian maverick and/or grandstander.

Time will tell.

[montanacowboy]

4. Fetterman would be an excellent choice

Conor Lamb should stay where he is needed in the House.

Fetterman is the kind of kick ass Democrat we need a hell of a lot more of.

[brush]

11. Agreed. Let Lamb stay in the House.

[onetexan]

19. +1 -K&R

[Deminpenn]

41. Lamb gave up his seat to run for Senate

I am in both his old and new district. The new district lost its portion of of heavily R Butler county and gained basically the northern half of Allegheny county. I think the district actually got more D, but it will probably still be competitive. I will be voting for Sean Meloy in the primary.

I figured the Rs would redistrict Lamb away, but thanks to their refusal to work with Gov Wolf causing a stalemate, the Supreme Court selected a map drawn by a voter associated with Marc Elias' group. The map reflects the pretty even partisan split of the state.

[lagomorph777]

5. That's weird. DUers are insisting that Lamb is a sure winner.

[OnDoutside]

14. Yeah that was weird.

[Demsrule86]

17. Nope...I live right next to PA...Lamb is not a sure winner. If you can't win a primary, you sure

as hell can't win a general.

[BlueTsunami2018]

6. I've been a Fetterman fan for a long time now.

Ever since he was going to kick that smug asshole Nick Gillespie’s ass on Real Time, I’ve been a Fetterman guy.

Oddly enough, Gillespie seems much more sane now.

[Carlitos Brigante]

22. Aha!! I couldn't remember who that was. He was a mayor then and even bigger than he looks now. nt

[budkin]

7. We need many more Fetterman types in the party

He's good people.

[brush]

8. I like Fetterman. The primary is to decide who runs...

against the republican Toomey, I take it?

[OnDoutside]

12. No, Toomey is retiring.

[brush]

20. Oh, ok. It's an open seat, a chance to gain a seat in the US senate...

which will lessen Manchin and Sinema's death grip on our Dem policies.

[Demsrule86]

24. Tim Ryan has a shot in Ohio too which would really really help. I am worried about Sen. Warnock.

Herschel Walker is a football player and that could really help him even if he is as dumb as a rock.

[OnDoutside]

28. The thing that benefits Warnock massively, is Stacey Abrams is

running for governor at the same time.

[Demsrule86]

46. That is true...and I know from Sis that our side is already working on workarounds for the

GOP voter suppression.

[brush]

29. I'll contribute to Ryan and Warnock. I think Warnock...

has a good chance against Walker. What are Ryan'a chances in Ohio?

[Demsrule86]

48. I have seen internal polling where Ryan is up by a couple of points...but that is pretty amazing.

Let me say this...Tim has a shot...I think a pretty good one. He is the only Democrat who could win the Senate right now in Ohio which does not mean he will win. I think it will be close and hope the GOP candidates are really awful...the debates were pretty terrible for the GOP. Ryan has the working man support and is tight with the UAW...he used to visit Lordstown GM often...and helped Delphi workers who were screwed too.

[Demsrule86]

55. I think he has a chance. It is all about getting the vote out everywhere...hold the cities and

lower the GOP votes in red districts...sort of how Biden won Georgia. We need to campaign even in red districts. There are Democrats in those areas and getting them out will help Ryan win statewide. I also think Ryan has a crossover vote the same as Fetterman. He got GOP voters in his district and independents too as well as Democrats. Even when Trumbull and Mahoning Counties went for Trump, Ryan won easily.

[yardwork]

69. Walker's own party is trying to defeat him. Too many negatives.

[PA Democrat]

23. No Toomey is retiring.

Dr. Oz and David McCormick (hedge fund CEO) are 2 of the top Republican candidates. They are both carpetbaggers and are running nonstop EXTREMELY negative ads against each other.

[Sugarcoated]

34. How are Fetterman's debate skills?

[PA Democrat]

37. Fetterman ran for the Senate in 2016 and particpated in a debate with 2 other

Democratic primary candidates, Joe Sestak and Katie McGinty. I thought his performance was the best of the three and FAR better than that of Katie McGinty who ended up winning the primary and then losing the general election to Pat Toomey.

Right now, it looks as though the party machine is supporting Conor Lamb and that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of many Pennsylvanians because of how the DSCC poured a lot of money into the 2016 primary in support of McGinty.

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee spent $425,000 on TV ads supporting McGinty in the primary election. The expenditure was unusual because the money was spent as a coordinated expenditure from the DSCC, not the usual independent expenditure. This could have potentially harmed the Democratic Party in the general election, as there is a limit of $1.9 million that can be spent on these types of expenditures in Pennsylvania, unlike independent expenditures which have no monetary limit.[28]

The DSCC also reserved $1.1 million in ad time to support McGinty in the last two weeks before the primary.[29]

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_election_in_Pennsylvania,_2016

[Demsrule86]

56. Sestak lost too...that is why I don't care what the party machine says...they are awful in their

choices...why would they think either of those Candidates could win PA is beyond me.

[Demsrule86]

49. He is good.

[Sugarcoated]

10. It's Fetterman's to lose

He's rockin it here it PA

[Demsrule86]

21. I really like Fetterman.

[Sugarcoated]

33. He's a fighter, knows how to use humor

and he's got blue collar cred which is critical here in PA. He, along with AG Josh Shapiro stood up to the insurrectionist Republicans who tried to steal PA for crooked Donnie. Shapiro knows how to run a winning campaign and frame issues, Fetterman isn't far behind. He's light years better as a candidate than he was when he ran for the senate in 2016.

[FakeNoose]

31. I've been living in Pennsylvania for a long time, and voting Dem for a long time too

I can share with you that John Fetterman is the real deal. He's a liberal-progressive Democrat and he would make a fine - even awesome - U.S. Senator. Here's the problem, so would Conor Lamb also make a fine U.S. Senator.

It breaks my heart that I have to choose one of them in the primary. Whichever candidate wins in May I'll be proud to support in the general election. I believe either one can and will win in November.

Of the two candidates, John Fetterman has more executive experience and he's more progressive politically. Lamb is several years younger and has more legislative experience, and politically he's more moderate of the two. They are both GREAT candidates. Why can't we have both?

[MyOwnPeace]

36. I liked Lamb when he ran for the House......

was bothered when he would not support Speaker Pelosi for her Speaker position. I would have preferred he run to keep his House seat - it is a red district that he won and I'm afraid it will swing back without him staying there.
All of that said, I am a VERY strong supporter of Fetterman - he'll be a GREAT Senator.

[FakeNoose]

39. Lamb did support Pelosi - however he didn't vote for her as Speaker

Last edited Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)

He only said that he "wasn't sure" about Pelosi while he was running in a very red district.

Friday April 1 edit: I gave wrong info on this post earlier. Indeed Conor Lamb voted for Joe Kennedy as Speaker, not Pelosi. My apologies for getting it wrong, and thanks to those who pointed out my error.

After Lamb got elected the first time, he voted with the Party on almost everything. He's slightly more pro-gun that most other Dems, however he fits in with his constituency as far as gun laws go. The PA district map was redrawn before the 2018 election, and Lamb had to beat incumbent Keith Rothfus (R) for his newly redrawn district. He did that handily.

It will hurt us that he is giving up his house seat to run for Senator. However if he doesn't win the primary for the Senate seat, I think he can still came back to run for his house seat again. Friday April 1 edit: He cannot run for the House in the next term because he has already missed the deadline for filing.

My thanks to DUers who are smarter than I am! I still have a high opinion of Lamb, but I'm leaning more towards Fetterman now.

[MyOwnPeace]

40. Thanks for clearing up the "Speaker" thing.....

and I agree - he was the perfect "Democrat" to run in that district.

[Deminpenn]

42. Lamb did not vote for Pelosi, he voted

for Kennedy.

[former9thward]

60. No, he can't come back to run for the House.

In PA the deadline to file for Congress was March 8th. So after the primary it will be too late to run for another position.

[FakeNoose]

82. Thanks for that info, I wasn't sure

[Demsrule86]

80. Nope he said he 'kept his campaign promise' and did not vote for Nancy Pelosi...Joe Kennedy as I

remember is who he voted for.

[FakeNoose]

84. Thanks I'm going to edit my response

You are right and I am wrong.

I went on Reddit this morning as I occasionally do, and several posters say they are going to vote for Fetterman because they think Conor Lamb is "Manchin-Lite." I'm not sure how true that is, but Lamb has shown a lot of independence in the last couple of years.

I have no doubt that he's a good Democrat, but Fetterman is the rip-roaring progressive of the two.

[Poiuyt]

44. Can Fetterman win in the general election?

Asking as an outsider

[Demsrule86]

51. Yes, he has won a statewide race where he knocked off a sitting lieutenant governor in the primary

during Governor wolf's reelection campaign. He ran with governor wolf and help deliver the blue color vote. A sitting Lieutenant Governor has never lost a primary in PA to my knowledge before.

[Poiuyt]

59. Thanks!

[Samrob]

47. Actually, I would not mind if either of these three men were our candidate. it's just who can win

in the national? Our three candidates are all very smart, savvy, and decent. I think in PA some are going for Fetterman because he is closer to a "Trump" type (meaning in looks and abruptness). Just so we win in November.

[Demsrule86]

52. Fetterman is more liberal than Lamb so that is not true. Fetterman is a plain spoken man and the

working guys trust him. He is nothing like liar Trump.

[WarGamer]

50. Some DEMS don't like it...

“Those of us in politics who are in the know, we want to win the Senate race, so we want to pick the most electable person statewide, and I think a lot of people agree that that person is Conor Lamb,” said Christina Proctor, the Democratic Party chair in Washington County.


https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/decision-2022/pa-democrats-face-huge-choice-in-key-us-senate-race-go-progressive-or-moderate/3168509/

[Demsrule86]

53. Why is that exactly? He is killing Lamb in the primary. The PA folks all went for Lamb and

basically sneered at Fetterman sort of like Biden's treatment in some ways. But Fetterman is winning and a much better candidate for PA-in terms of getting the working guy's vote and cross-over vote which is essential in both Ohio and Pennsylvania...that same group has supported candidates that lost badly every time.

[WarGamer]

54. SOME people think Fetterman is too far to the Left for a Purple State.

I say... "We'll see about that!"

[Demsrule86]

57. I would not consider Sherrod Brown a conservative.

[Celerity]

65. Absolutely agree with this. Brown is one of my favourite Senators, along with Warnock, Markey,

Warren, Ossoff, Sanders, Schumer, Mazie Hirono, Chris Murphy, and Tammy Baldwin.

[Demsrule86]

67. He is a great guy and has withstood huge amounts of money and slime thrown at him by the

GOP, I think they have finally given up.

[Celerity]

68. I always thought he would have been a possible POTUS candidate for 2016 and 2020

2016 once Biden said nope (disastrously as it turned out, horrid timing and of course a tragedy for his son dying then)

[Demsrule86]

81. I think Sherrod could win but the Senate seat is very valuable.

[Celerity]

85. absolutely, he's an odds-beater for sure by winning (fairly easily) in Ohio. Let's hope Ryan can do

the same thing.

[Demsrule86]

86. Joshie Mandel...frat boy extrodinaire who handed out jobs on facebook to his 'bro's' ran against him

once they spent between 60 and 100 million on the general ...not counting third-party ads.

[Kingofalldems]

71. Don't know about that but I am sure...

Trump supporters don't like him.

[WarGamer]

72. So the Washington County Dem Party chair is a Trumpist?

[Kingofalldems]

73. Not a good try there.

[WarGamer]

74. What's that mean, KOAD...

[Kingofalldems]

75. I said Trumpers don't like Fetterman.

And my words were twisted for some reason or other.

Please point to where I said anything about Democrats, otherwise retract your original post.

[WarGamer]

76. You were insinuating all the "DNC types" who prefer Lamb were Trumpists.

[Kingofalldems]

77. Well now you know.

I don't distinguish between DNC and other types, they're all Democrats to me.

Once again --Trump Cultists don't like Fetterman. That good enough for you?

[Demsrule86]

83. Nope just wrong...multiple times. They picked McGinty for example...we need a winner...we have

been trying for this seat for literally decades...Fetterman can win.

[tishaLA]

58. Fetterman has the scrappiness Pennsylvanians appreciate

even those who may not be big fans of his politics will like him because of his demeanor and politics is largely about emotion and how candidates make people feel. Put him against someone as transparently phony like Oz and he looks even better.

[JI7]

61. Fetterman was good at ridiculing Trump and his idiot

supporters after the election when they were trying to steal the election.

He would laugh at them and they avoided confronting him with their bs.

[Kingofalldems]

70. Republicans fear him and will try to smear him.

I see it happening already.

[Kingofalldems]

78. Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals.