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Putin wound up his people with lies about Ukraine. He raised the stakes based on bullshit, now hes struggling to find a way out.
But the presidential administration is said to be concerned about how a possible truce with Ukraine will hit Putins [approval] ratings.
The citizens were riled up by propaganda. Suppose a decision is made to stop at the territory of the Donbas. What about the Nazis then? Are we no longer fighting them? This word has been hammered into people so much that I cant imagine how one can stop in Donbas without losing approval ratings, one source told Meduza.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins-soldiers-caught-on-tape-lamenting-losses-and-blasting-his-army-of-stupid-morons?source=twitter&via=desktop
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)Its like the Bible. Everyone seems to have their own definition on Nazi
When in fact Nazis are specific war criminals in Germany through 1945. Its not white nationalists in the US.
My opinion, calling every despicable person diminishes what a Nazi is as well as the despicable deeds of today.
Horror needs its singular name to which it goes down in history.
White Supremists are not Nazis. They are White Supemists.
Proud Boys are a US hate group. Thats who they are.
BeyondGeography
(39,963 posts)Which is why his Nazi rhetoric came in for so much attention when the invasion started.
US intelligence has warned that Putin aims to topple Ukraines government, round up prominent Ukrainians to be killed or sent to camps, and install a puppet regime in Kyiv. When Putin speaks of de-Nazification and bringing [Ukrainians] to justice, this is exactly what he means.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2022/2/24/22948944/putin-ukraine-nazi-russia-speech-declare-war
Eko
(8,400 posts)Not saying that Ukraine has any at all but I once heard the same argument you gave from a right winger.
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)In what context was that statement.
Would you happen to a specific link to that statement?
Eko
(8,400 posts)The right winger who made it was on another forum. Just letting you know that is a common defense of calling someone a nazi from right wingers. No harm meant at all.
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)Since its common. Thanks.
WarGamer
(14,926 posts)The reality is... Nazis disappeared in 1945. At most, former Nazis lived into their 80's or 90's...
Everything left over is a neo-nazi, white supremacist or just as asshole.
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)DFW
(56,326 posts)The word Nazi was first an abbreviation of the German word for "National," "NAH-tsee-oh-NAHL."
As in National Socialist: NAH-tsee-oh-NAHL Zo-tsee-ah-LIST, i.e. Hitler's political Party (the NSDAP)
You won't find too many Ukrainian chapters, no matter HOW many of their cities you raze to the ground.
The biggest concentration of Nazi-like warmongers since the Wannseekonferenz seems to be holed up in the Kremlin. Just ask for a meeting of you inner circle, have them all liquidated Stalin-style, and you will have solved your Nazi problem, with the exception of the guy in the mirror.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Igel
(35,995 posts)In case you wondered where the "Z" came from.
(No, it didn't actually come from there. But it'll confuse the dullards for a few seconds.)