Victory in Kyiv. This appears to be real

[Tomconroy]

Happening as we speak;

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Some good news, some bad:

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[SheltieLover]

1. Yaaaaaay!

Ty!

[demmiblue]

2. K&R

[getagrip_already]

3. sorry, what does this mean?

It's just one confusng twitter post. Is there anything confirming and giving more info?

Sounds good, but unsupported. Just saying......

[WarGamer]

7. It means...

The Russians have pulled out from the area around Kiev.

They know they can't take the city so they're moving forces, regrouping to strike Ukraine again in the South and East.

[Bev54]

14. It is Kyiv not Kiev. Kiev is the old Russian spelling.

[lunatica]

32. I thought it was two separate cities.

Live and learn.

[WarGamer]

38. I appreciate that...

It's a force of habit... it was KIEV in history and reference books until 2006.

And in 1995 or 2006 all the old books didn't magically CHANGE to Kyiv.

I've referred to it frequently as Kyiv but do type out of habit sometimes.

To be honest... it's neither. It's Київ

Kiev, Kyiv, it's just the Anglicized version of Russian or Ukrainian.

Since 1995 or 2006 (depending on Ukraine or UN) the preferred version is now Kyiv.

[GB_RN]

58. I Have A Ukrainian Friend Who Lives In There...

And she spells it “Kiev” when she messages me. She’s young enough that “Kyiv” would have caught on with her. So, I’d taken it from her that it’s more a matter of preference in translation. I also realize that Cyrillic doesn’t translate exactly into our Romanized alphabet, either.

Not an argument, just my personal experience with a Kyiv citizen.

[L. Coyote]

20. Probably, they were unable to resupply troops.

In Belarus, railroads are being sabotaged.

[getagrip_already]

21. Sorry, when I replied there was only one comment/report from twitter....

now there are several different reports on the main page.

It is more of a complete picture nw.

[FakeNoose]

35. I'll watch the TV news tonight - I want to see how this gets reported

[The Unmitigated Gall]

4. CAREFUL.

[Lovie777]

5. YES ...

but always be aware cause Putin is an evil fuck.

[WarGamer]

6. As many of us predicted...

The Russians have switched to "Plan B"

And that means withdrawing from Kiev to regroup in the East and South to accelerate their attacks.

But it's still a great victory for Ukraine.

Brings back memories of several classic "Capital City" battles... and they were ALL hard fought.

Battle of Moscow, 1941... similarly the Germans never got past the suburbs. Counterattacks and Old Man Winter pushed them back.

Battle of Berlin, 1945... even though the Germans were worn down and starved, a core of hardcore Nazis and SS soldiers inflicted HUGE damage on the Russians before the city fell.

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. While Russia is regrouping, Ukraine gets more anti-tank weapons in place to counter the next

Russian attack.

[WarGamer]

11. I don't think there will be many "new attacks"

Now the Russians are going to look to support the land they've seized, from Kherson in the West to Mariupol in the East.

Plan B is the concept of taking a land bridge to Crimea and daring Ukraine to take it back.

[MadameButterfly]

15. I don't think Russia has taken Mariupol

They've level 95% but Ukraine forces are still fighting there

[OnDoutside]

44. True, though it sounds like the US are going to send anti-ship missiles to cater for attacks from

the sea. Hopefully they can get that to Odessa and all points east.

[gordianot]

57. Sea invasions are particularly difficult.

It appears Russia is far more cautious regarding Odessa the Ukrainians appear to have anti ship capabilities now. It would be a good lesson for Russia’s only real ally China to ponder. World War III is developing as a cautionary tale.

[OnDoutside]

59. Definitely agree (and re Taiwan). Every week that goes by, the more perilous a sea landing becomes.

[MyMission]

34. They will also need more anti-aircraft weapons, I suspect

Attacking from the air is certainly something they would do, and another attack somewhere is certainly planned

Vlad just announced conscription draft of something like 150,000 men, so he's still got plans.
He will need to hold Donbas, and may try to hold the port cities.

Still, it's great news that Ukrainian flags are flying proudly.

[70sEraVet]

42. Those poor conscripts.

"Here is your gun. This is how you load it. OK. Training is complete. Get on that bus and make your country proud. Oh, and don't think about deserting; not if you want to see your mother alive again."

[OAITW r.2.0]

46. Pretty much it.

Sorry, you need to die for Putin's grandiose visions. You didn't need to die, but that's what happens when you don't fight for Democracy. You still die because Dictator wills it so.

[MyMission]

48. 134,500 new conscripts, age 18-27

LONDON, March 31 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin on Thursday signed a decree ordering 134,500 new conscripts into the army as part of Russia's annual spring draft, but the defence ministry said the call-up had nothing to do with the war in Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-drafts-134500-conscripts-says-they-wont-go-ukraine-2022-03-31/

They are lying at every turn, Vlad and his ministers.
The information about this draft comes with all sorts of denials, explanations, and excuses, and they lie.

[Tomconroy]

53. I've read on this board it takes something like 15-18 months

For the US Army to train a professional infantryman. Doubt it the Russians will be doing that.

[MyMission]

61. According to the article I cited,

Most of vlads conscripts will have 3-5 months of professional training (if they're lucky). I wonder what are they training them to do? My mind imagines laying land mines, working a machine gun or armored tank, basic shooting skills, maybe naval training if they're eligible or inclined. I assume aviation training would take longer, and probably is for professional military and not conscripts. They probably will be sent to some front line somewhere. Below is a relevant quote from the Reuters article I mentioned above. I also mentioned they lie, but it's worth mentioning again.

Shoigu said on Tuesday that those called up would begin to be dispatched to their assigned bases in late May.

"Most military personnel will undergo professional training in training centres for three to five months. Let me emphasize that recruits will not be sent to any hot spots," he said in remarks published on his ministry's website.

The US military is very well trained. It seems the Ukrainian military is also.
The Russians, not so much.

[druidity33]

30. Ukranians prefer Kyiv. It's pronounced different too. nt.

[WarGamer]

39. I know. It's a force of habit.

It's been KIEV in English books and manuscripts for 1000+ years.

I mostly try to remember to type Kyiv.

[OAITW r.2.0]

8. Hell of a military campaign, Vlad.

The mighty Russian Army has been exposed as a shell of its former self.

I just hope Putin does not take his criminal offense to a unthinkably horrible level.

[Tommy Carcetti]

9. Good to know Kyiv is safe for now.

It's a stunningly beautiful city and the thought of it coming under attack was heartbreaking for me.

Unfortunately, that's not much comfort for places like Mariupol, which lies in ruin and the human suffering amongst the population is unspeakable.

But still, good news is good news.

[wnylib]

23. Red Cross currently says they can't reach Mariupol.

No response when they tried to connect, according to NPR.

[roamer65]

12. Let's hope not a retreat for the use of WMDs.

🤞🤞🤞

[KS Toronado]

16. My thoughts also

and if so, Zelensky and his team should secretly move somewhere besides the capitol
if they haven't done so already.

[erronis]

22. Ditto: My thoughts also.

Hate to say that.

Not sure that little vlad would bother withdrawing his troops before unleashing the next horror. He doesn't seem to care about the people on the ground - friends or foes.

[PortTack]

13. Interesting..pootie was sure the Ukrainians would give up without a fight..so it's just the opposite

[ouija]

17. Yeah, that may not be a good thing

Might just be getting his troops out of the way.

[PortTack]

27. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

[ffr]

18. As happy as this news is, it also makes me angry to no end from whom it was brought by

And the legion of low-IQ idiot supporters.



Thanks Republicans. You did this!

[OAITW r.2.0]

47. Yep.... we lost 4 years containing this Dictator/Crime Boss.

This is the world result.

[nycbos]

19. We shall never surrender.

[LiberalArkie]

24. Maybe pulling out so the Syrian's can do the fighting

[BlueIdaho]

49. If I were the Syrians

I wouldn’t be all that enthusiastic about dying for Russia.

[JCMach1]

25. Russia has a long, long history of lost wars coupled with revolution, rebellion and insurrection

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I don't expect Putin to be immune to this.

[OAITW r.2.0]

33. Exactly. I think Putin shot his load with this unilateral decision to start a another war

in Ukraine. It has has exposed the true extent of corruption of the Putin-Oligarch Crime Organization and their transfer of Russian state resources to their private bank account. They have Potemkin-ized the Russian Army and it's entire domestic economy is imploding.

It only took 6 weeks. Vlad Putin - Making Russia Great Again!

[CaptainTruth]

26. Ukraine sources say 78 pieces of Russian equipment destroyed just today.

As always, take with a grain of salt, but even if the number is half that it's significant.

I'm certainly seeing a lot of pictures of destroyed & captured equipment armor, & a short while ago Oryx said they were approaching 100 pieces added to their list of destroyed & captured equipment today, all new additions, not backlog. Oryx counts all losses so their number includes Ukrainian equipment too, but the total is overwhelmingly Russian.

[gab13by13]

28. This was talked about on Nicolle,

according to British intelligence what happened was not that consequential. Once again, the fog of war, maybe British intelligence is wrong.

[liberalla]

29. This is a big deal! I worry about what fresh hell awaits next week...

But you got to celebrate the wins!

[Mysterian]

31. The courage and tenacity of the Ukrainian fighters will be remembered

The Ukrainians are showing great skill and bravado as infantry fighters.

[lunatica]

36. This!

Ukrainians are truly awesome in their determination! True patriots to their country!

[BootinUp]

37. Russia: Its just a flesh wound!

[BobTheSubgenius]

40. I'm completely gobsmacked by this whole fustercluck!

The Big, Bad Russian military - a juggernaut that could roll over Europe from their border to the Atlantic with ease? It's kinda turned out to be a paper tiger, hannit?

But I have a prediction. This will all be Saint Ronnie's doing.

[IronLionZion]

41. I hope they don't increase their air raids and missile strikes

since their ground strategy clearly isn't working.

[FakeNoose]

43. It's clear the Russian military is losing heart in this fight, they know they've been lied to

I'll bet a lot of those Russian soldiers would rather defect to Ukraine than go back to Russia, at this point.

The ones who fled Chernobyl were CLEARLY lied to. None of those young guys were even born when Chernobyl blew up. None of them knew the dangers of walking around there without breathing apparatus, digging trenches, etc. Those guys are all exposed to toxic substances now, including the commanders.

[AmBlue]

45. Hopefully...

...Pootie's nuclear arsenal is in as rough shape as his army. Otherwise I fear he's just clearing his troops out so he can level the place. Really hoping I'm wrong about this, but I can only imagine how pissed he must be.

Bottom line is there us no good option here for Putin. If he loses he loses. If he wins he loses. So there is literally nothing left for him to lose. Not a good situation at all.

PUTIN = LOSER

[Aussie105]

50. They weren't supposed to fight back!

Where are the cheering crowds, the flowers, the smiles for the victorious liberators?

Instead, they shoot back! Not fair!

[Liberty Belle]

51. Russians are laying mines on their way out of Kyev, Zelensky says:

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2022/04/01/zelensky-alleges-russian-troops-leaving-mines-dead-bodies/7431648871361/

Not a victory. Mining homes, buildings even dead bodies, according to Zelensky.

Also I saw a photo of a captured tank elsewhere today with a gas mask -- I fear Russia is preparing something terrible after pulling its owns troops temporarily out of harm's way.

[uponit7771]

52. Do you remember if the tank was in the east of Kyiv? RA breathed in irradiated dirt causing ...

... acute radiation sickness ie the gas mask.

I also agree that Ukr has to watch the Belarus border seeing there are mass equipment movements in the center of Belarus heading south.

I think at most they're feints to keep large forces at the Ukr norther border if the mines are NOT the time decay type.

[sprinkleeninow]

54. I

am sensing a not good motive/reason for the 'R' troops being moved/regrouped.

[Cha]

55. Rt💕🤷‍♂️TY!

💙💛

[The Jungle 1]

56. Russia really thought they could just drive in with their tanks and Ukraine would stand down.

Which is what Afghanistan did when we pulled out. They stood down in 11 days. Clearly the Afghanistan people will not fight for freedom. Ukraine WILL fight.
What I want to see is a farmer dragging a plow with a russian tank.

[flying_wahini]

60. If there aren't any Russian soldiers left in the area sounds like it would be

Even more dangerous to be there. At least for a while.