Re. Smith/Rock Debacle and for this reason: As Smith and Rock may be role models for young men, I

[cornball 24]

find their behavior intolerable.

[nycbos]

1. Only one of them decided to settle a dispute with violence.

[cornball 24]

2. One said something inappropriate to a huge audience.

[jrthin]

5. The joke was not inappropriate. Some may have found the joke

unfunny, but it certainly wasn't inappropriate, IMHO

[Blue_Adept]

10. Jokes that punch down are generally not appropriate.

This gets talked about a lot with comedy and people have a lot of blind spots on it in what they consider punching down as well.

You may not think it was punching down, but there are a whole lot of people who do, including a lot of black women going by many of their responses to the joke itself.

[BlackSkimmer]

11. Wanda Sykes disagrees.

And she’s not the only black woman who does.

How in hell is a millionaire telling a joke about another millionaire while comparing her to another millionaire “punching down?”

Oh, and IBTL.

[jrthin]

13. Exactly. That's what comedians do: call out the rich and powerful.

[BlackSkimmer]

19. Exactly.

Poor widdle Will probably couldn’t handle Ricky Gervais.

[nycbos]

22. IBTL?

[nycbos]

9. Will Smith laughed first.

Last edited Sat Apr 2, 2022, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Then saw how his wife was looking at him. THEN he made a decison to sucker punch a comedian at a comic roast.

[BlackSkimmer]

21. And he'd never have hit a larger man.

Hell, Amy Schumer insulted his marriage, and somehow he was able to let that go.

He made this story what it is, and now everyone knows who he is. And how pathetic he is.

I still remember him saying how he’d NEVER kiss a man for a movie part. Well, I doubt he’ll get a lot of offers in the future, so no worries.

[Skittles]

16. oh nonsense

[ForgedCrank]

3. Who would prop up

any of these people as a role model?
Almost all of them are rich spoiled brats with zero realistic connection to average people and their daily struggles.
I can think of scant few who actually deserve my respect.

[jrthin]

6. +1000

[Raine]

7. Exactly nt

[nini]

23. Both of them had difficult childhoods

So, saying they have no idea about daily struggles doesn't really apply. I understand why you said that but to me it just shows money can't buy happiness whether you're born in it or earned it.

I agree celebrities being role models is dumb unless they're like Dolly Parton who lives the giving back to the world like very few others.

[jrthin]

4. I think Chris Rock behaved exemplary handling the assault.

[JenniferJuniper]

8. I agree. Imagine if he hit back?

Not that it was a fight he could win.

Still he handled far better than most probably would have.

[BlackSkimmer]

12. Smith wouldn't have hit a larger man.

He hit a smaller man who is older than he.

[jrthin]

14. And that makes Smith a bully.

[Treefrog]

15. These threads keep popping up.

Lmao. It’s like whack-a-mole, but the hosts are losing!

[SYFROYH]

17. This is still bog (eta: big) news and being covered on most news stations

Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2022, 02:32 PM - Edit history (1)

There really is a lot to unpack.

[BlackSkimmer]

20. I agree, both that it's big news, and "bog" news as you said.

Bog in the English meaning lol.

But yes, this story is everywhere, and I expect it will stay that way at least until the Academy pulls its collective finger out and makes some decision.

[JI7]

18. What behavior of Chris Rock ?

[kacekwl]

24. They should meet in person

share a beverage of their choice and apologize to each other. Shake hands and be done with this once and for all. Smith is out of the Oscars so that's settled. Let's move on guys.