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luv2fly

(2,708 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 04:06 PM Apr 2022

If you can't see the problem with Andrew, ma'am, perhaps it's time to hang up the crown

If you can’t see the problem with Andrew, ma’am, perhaps it’s time to hang up the crown
Giving the prince centre stage at Philip’s memorial service was a foolish misstep
Catherine Bennett
Sat 2 Apr 2022 14.00 EDT

It's six weeks since Prince Andrew settled out of court with his accuser, Virginia Giuffre, for a sum estimated at £12m. Cheap at the price, it was suggested, if the money (source unexplained) prevented sexual assault charges and a public trial ruining his mother’s platinum jubilee. Whatever’s left to be ruined, that is, after mixed results from the Cambridges’ vintage-inspired Caribbean visit in which only Kate’s elaborate wardrobe signalled that anything had changed since 1953.

Since Andrew testified in the settlement to a hitherto unsuspected concern for victims of sex trafficking, along with a newfound regret for knowing Jeffrey Epstein, the deal was also welcomed as a victory for Giuffre’s fellow survivors. A lawyer for Sarah Ransome, one of those abused by Epstein, called the settlement a “banner day”; survivors had “been heard and were no longer silenced”.

These women, probably unfamiliar with correct form concerning the titled associates of known sex offenders, could not have anticipated that Andrew’s discomfiture would be strictly temporary. A prince who is no longer HRH owing to some serious sexual allegations should still, as newly demonstrated by the UK’s foremost role models, be seen at formal events and addressed ducally as “your Grace”. Should one bow? A nod is usually acceptable where a prince has been unable to account, as with Andrew, for a photograph of him pawing a teenage girl, with Ghislaine Maxwell in the background. Following a period of reflection – a month is ample – current protocol requires a monarch’s son previously accused of sexual assault to take precedence in royal ceremonial over siblings who have never associated with a known sex offender (Charles’s favourites, Jimmy Savile and Laurens van der Post, were only posthumously unmasked).

As the Queen’s escort at Prince Philip’s memorial service, Andrew duly enjoyed a central role: received by reverential clerics and a trumpet fanfare, then serenaded to a front seat by less valued siblings and relations. If only a prior engagement in New York’s Metropolitan Detention Center had not obliged Ghislaine to send regrets it could have been just like old times.

More at

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/naive-or-blinded-by-affection-either-way-time-queen-hung-up-her-crown

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Royal families merely reverting to type. They were a lot worse...
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 04:19 PM
Apr 2022

when they actually had power and people gave a shit about them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. How could anybody possibly demand that a "subject" bow down to that pedophile pig?
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 04:20 PM
Apr 2022

Talk about out of touch. The monarchy is wobbling on it's last legs. Giving Andrew any legitimacy at all is guaranteed to topple it.

hlthe2b

(114,675 posts)
7. While I can agree, the fact is he's still her son, she's in increasingly bad health and undoubtedly
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 05:03 PM
Apr 2022

is feeling her mortality right now, especially after the death of Philip. Does it present a horrible appearance? Yes.

Can I somewhat understand? Yes. And once she passes, his protection is 100% gone from what I read about the feelings of the rest of the family toward Andrew.

live love laugh

(16,480 posts)
9. Trump got a hand job from one of Epsteins 13 y/o Ivanka lookalikes and he speaks everywhere.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 06:04 PM
Apr 2022


Why the difference?
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. He should have been in prison ages ago.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 06:19 PM
Apr 2022

The fact that we have an entire political party and a plutocracy protecting vultures like him just goes to show that we are even more f**ked up than the British monarchy

ananda

(35,508 posts)
10. She's always had a blind spot for that one.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 06:11 PM
Apr 2022

Cold to Charles, besotted with Andrew... her fave.

leftyladyfrommo

(20,027 posts)
11. Andrew is her son. If he helps fill the emptiness
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 06:15 PM
Apr 2022

then.more power to her. I think she has always doted on him.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
13. She's 95 years old. An exemplary woman by any standard.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 07:01 PM
Apr 2022

She was honoring her husband to whom she was married for 70 years. Andrew is her son.

Have a heart.

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