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Nevilledog

(54,712 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 12:04 PM Apr 2022

Navalny: How an ordinary Russian TV viewer (one of whom I currently am) sees it.




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1/14 How an ordinary Russian TV viewer (one of whom I currently am) sees it.

I learned about the monstrous events in Bucha yesterday morning from the news that Russia was convening the UN Security Council in connection with the massacre by Ukrainian Nazis in Bucha.

2/14 In the evening, the Channel One anchor explained everything. And I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears:

3/14 "NATO has been preparing he provocation in Bucha for a long time and at the highest level. It is also confirmed by the fact that President Biden called Putin a "butcher" not long ago”.

4/14 “Listen how consonant the English word "butcher" and the name of the city "Bucha" are. This is how the Western audience was subconsciously prepared for this provocation."

5/14 I'm telling you, the monstrosity of lies on federal channels is unimaginable. And, unfortunately, so is its persuasiveness for those who have no access to alternative information.

6/14 My point is that Putin's propaganda has long ceased to be a tool. They are actual warmongers and have become a party in their own right.

7/14 The endlessly squealing anchors and their "experts" are revving up their fury and have long since surpassed the military in their aggressiveness.

8/14 They demand a war to the bitter end, storming Kyiv, bombing Lviv. Even the prospect of a nuclear war does not scare them. They mop up the floor with their fellow Putinists on live television if they as much as hint at the fact that peace talks are a good thing.

9/14 It's such a disgusting uroboros. Politics is a propaganda snake biting its own tail. Propagandists create the kind of public opinion that no longer simply allows Putin to commit war crimes, but demands them of him.

10/14 Warmongers should be treated as war criminals. From the editors-in-chief to the talk show hosts to the news editors, all of this Thousand Hills Radio should be sanctioned now and tried someday.

11/14 I would also like to remind you that the National Media Group, which owns the lion's share of this lie machine, no doubt belongs to Putin personally, which is why it is even formally headed by Putin's mistress Alina Kabaeva (see our investigation "Palace for Putin&quot .

12/14 Most drastic measures should be taken to make the work of these Goebbels heirs more difficult. From a complete ban on the supply and service of equipment, to searching for their assets in the West (which undoubtedly exist) and putting them on visa blacklists.

13/14 The monstrous atrocities in Bucha, Irpin and other Ukraininan cities were committed not only by those who tied the hands of peaceful people behind their backs, not only by those who shot them in the back of the head.

14/14 But also by those who stood by and whispered: "Come on, shoot, give us some nice material for our late-night TV show".
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Navalny: How an ordinary Russian TV viewer (one of whom I currently am) sees it. (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 2022 OP
Sounds a lot like our own 'faux news' spanone Apr 2022 #1
That exactly was my first thought Mr. Sparkle Apr 2022 #11
Consider the sources of so much of Faux Spews...Rupert Murdoch has much to answer for. Ford_Prefect Apr 2022 #13
It's the weaponization of the news media DSandra Apr 2022 #14
***100%!!!*** There are VERY FEW delta's between FAUX NewZ and Russian state TV uponit7771 Apr 2022 #26
Envisioning the Russians to be totally MAGAT. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2022 #2
No wonder why so many Republicans like Putin and Putin's Russian supporters DSandra Apr 2022 #17
the fervor of their agenda makes clear they're anti-democracy. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2022 #22
he's been at this a while NJCher Apr 2022 #3
Isn't Navalny still in prison? Curious that he has access to Twitter. PA Democrat Apr 2022 #4
He may be giving his comments to his people to post. Nevilledog Apr 2022 #5
He meets with his lawyer every day. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #23
That's why I published the link above you NJCher Apr 2022 #24
What do the numbers to the left of the entries mean? brush Apr 2022 #6
It is the number of lines. Codifer Apr 2022 #8
They are the number of the tweet out of the total in the thread (series of tweets). Make7 Apr 2022 #9
Is he not in a Russian Prison? Nictuku Apr 2022 #7
I have wondered this myself for several months. Ilsa Apr 2022 #20
They are only slightly ahead of the US right-wing propaganda cabal. CaptainTruth Apr 2022 #10
Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #12
And this means that murdered Ukrainian civilians are only fiction? Ford_Prefect Apr 2022 #15
And this means Nasruddin Apr 2022 #16
Bothsiderism has arrived at DU. Mr. Evil Apr 2022 #18
If we breathe in the world, we all have baggage peggysue2 Apr 2022 #19
Please don't do the Nazi smear thing. Stofel Apr 2022 #21
This is just beyond the deep end of the pool. This is Pol Pot style information DFW Apr 2022 #25

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,371 posts)
2. Envisioning the Russians to be totally MAGAT.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 12:17 PM
Apr 2022

Just picturing them lapping up spoonfed lies and the toxicity it creates.

DSandra

(1,697 posts)
17. No wonder why so many Republicans like Putin and Putin's Russian supporters
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 02:25 PM
Apr 2022

They are one in and the same. Expect the MAGATs to want to do what Putin is doing in Ukraine to Blue States and commit genocide and atrocities to liberals and LGBT people.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,371 posts)
22. the fervor of their agenda makes clear they're anti-democracy.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 03:00 PM
Apr 2022

The fact that they need conspiracy theories, scare tactics, subjugation of the vote, and countless lies to drive them is only possible with the help of a compliant media. Apparently the right really hates all who disagree with their extreme religious views, which are totally out of whack with the Constitution.

The separation of church and state withstood 200 plus years of tests. But it couldn't withstand the lies and attacks pummeling that delineation given the obvious - the zealots hate us.

maxsolomon

(38,206 posts)
23. He meets with his lawyer every day.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 03:01 PM
Apr 2022

He dictates or give them notes.

Navalney has 0 fucks to give.

NJCher

(42,519 posts)
24. That's why I published the link above you
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 03:43 PM
Apr 2022

To explain that he has been Tweeting for some time. As to how he's able to do it, there are some clues in the story and related links.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. What do the numbers to the left of the entries mean?
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 12:50 PM
Apr 2022

At first I thought those were dates but they don't correspond with March and April '22.

Codifer

(1,163 posts)
8. It is the number of lines.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 01:03 PM
Apr 2022

Line one of fourteen

Line two of fourteen

etc


cheers

edit to add: I wondered about this too.

Make7

(8,549 posts)
9. They are the number of the tweet out of the total in the thread (series of tweets).
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 01:05 PM
Apr 2022

Tweets have a limit on the number of letters used, so for information requiring more characters than the limit people spread it across a series of tweets.... 1 of 14, 2 of 14, etc.






Nictuku

(4,567 posts)
7. Is he not in a Russian Prison?
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 12:53 PM
Apr 2022

Just wondering how he has Twitter access, or access to other people even who might be tweeting on his behalf.

Ilsa

(63,855 posts)
20. I have wondered this myself for several months.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 02:30 PM
Apr 2022

Perhaps his prison isn't as bad as the old gulags, but somehow, I can't imagine the russian government making improvements or providing access to social media.

CaptainTruth

(8,051 posts)
10. They are only slightly ahead of the US right-wing propaganda cabal.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 01:19 PM
Apr 2022

Or Reich-wing as I have begun calling it.

And by slightly ahead I'd estimate 5-10 years. Extremists on the Right are already calling for the "elimination" of all Leftists, Democrats, & liberals. Recently a Republican, a former office holder, said we should all be lined up against a wall & shot. When he was criticized & challenged he refused to back down or recant his statement, & made it clear he was serious. He believes he would be justified in killing everyone on "the Left" because of the Reich-wing messaging (propaganda) he's been receiving from Reich-wing media.

Sound familiar? Millions of Americans are slowly going down the same path as millions of brainwashed Russians.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Ford_Prefect

(8,514 posts)
15. And this means that murdered Ukrainian civilians are only fiction?
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 02:21 PM
Apr 2022

This means that Putin's well documented long war on journalism and the truth by way of murder and intimidation has no reference here?

Are you denying the text as presented or doubting the context?

Nasruddin

(1,178 posts)
16. And this means
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 02:23 PM
Apr 2022

Only what's in the text I wrote, nothing more, and nothing less

Anything else, your projection

peggysue2

(12,389 posts)
19. If we breathe in the world, we all have baggage
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 02:28 PM
Apr 2022

It's who people are now, in the moment witnessing the tragedy in Ukraine.

The saints of my youth were always plaster statues with beatific expressions and golden halos.

I have yet to meet one in the flesh.

 

Stofel

(14 posts)
21. Please don't do the Nazi smear thing.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 02:47 PM
Apr 2022

That's what Putin does.
You can show your source for the "Navalny supports neo-Nazis" claim.

DFW

(59,747 posts)
25. This is just beyond the deep end of the pool. This is Pol Pot style information
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 04:24 PM
Apr 2022

If Putin is directing this, he must look in the mirror in the morning and see Stalin staring back at him.

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