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rpannier

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Wed Apr 6, 2022, 07:05 AM Apr 2022

Putin's Apologists aka, the Blame America First crowd has two new members (long post)

I posted this a month or so back but I am adding names
In the original list, I had names like
Tuckyo Rose Carlson - You know, Putin's favorite on air news hack
Alex Jones because Ukraine is so pro-transgender and George Soros
Tulsi Gabbard -- Never met a brutal authoritarian she doesn't like. Though she seems to hate LGBTQ people
JD Vance - Ukraine is woke and Russia isn't. Those wokies are so powerful. Oh...and like Alex Jones, transgender

Adding to the list is someone whose shelf life relevance expired a long time ago, yet, he still finds time to be wrong
Scott Ritter. Yes, former U.N. weapons inspector and Putin fanboy has found a new career letting us know how brilliant and innocent Putin is, and how bad the U.S. and western Europe is in various publications you likely have never heard of. Nice he found a way to make money. I'm guessing those 15 and 16 year old girls don't come cheap. (Ritter was arrested again in November 2009 over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site. Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl.)

On January 28, Ritter wrote in the Energy Intelligence Forum (article titled 'Russia Moves Toward Checkmate' link: https://www.energyintelligenceforum.com/2021/Russia-Moves-Toward-Checkmate-on-Ukraine ):
Russia, however, is far too sophisticated to allow itself to be boxed into such a corner. In the weeks and months ahead, Russia will be the one dictating the outcome of this crisis — which will be a resounding Russian victory.
To this end, the primary purpose of Russia’s military buildup is to expose the political, military and economic impotence of the US/Nato partnership by a range of crises
and
...either agree to trade Nato’s open-door policy for Russian agreement not to deploy into the Western Hemisphere, or force a confrontation that will result in a Russian invasion of Ukraine that is seen by Europe as being the fault of the US.

Writing in TASS, Ritter claimed that forensic evidence needs to be provided to verify claims that Russians killed those civilians. Which he deems unlikely -- he is claiming 'false flag'.
He wrote: "Anyone who makes knee jerk judgements from unverified videos sourced from a side known for wild propagandistic claims without waiting for verification of any kind should probably stop calling themselves journalists,"
For a second, I thought he was talking about Russia. But, no. He wasn't.

Also, in an interview on First Channel (a Russian network): "...Russia is not targeting the Ukrainian population, unlike Zelenskyy, who wants to create an artificial humanitarian crisis in Ukraine."

The other I am adding is Gonzalo Lira
Lira, an American who’s lived in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv for years and was in Kyiv at the start of the offensive

From Daily Beast: Lira has portrayed the Russian assault as provoked—and as “one of the most brilliant invasions in military history.” He has insisted that the invaders don’t want to harm civilians or civilian infrastructure and are in fact taking pains not to, that the Russian advance has not stalled but is in fact right on course, and that Russian domination will likely be good for Ukraine in the end.

From mythdetector: Lira claimed there were no large-scale battles with hundreds or thousands of casualties and the Russian Army was very careful in Ukraine.
Gonzalo Lira also claimed that disconnecting Russia from SWIFT would destroy the dollar.
...he said the United States wanted to “drag Russia into the war” and urged Ukraine to attack Russia.


https://mythdetector.ge/en/3-ukraine-related-disinformation-disseminated-by-russian-propaganda-platforms/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gonzalo-lira-is-a-pro-putin-shill-in-ukraine-and-a-sleazy-manosphere-dating-coach

https://tass.com/world/1431843

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Putin's Apologists aka, the Blame America First crowd has two new members (long post) (Original Post) rpannier Apr 2022 OP
What Putin asskissing hogwash that is. Ritter and Lira must both... brush Apr 2022 #1

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1. What Putin asskissing hogwash that is. Ritter and Lira must both...
Wed Apr 6, 2022, 08:19 AM
Apr 2022

be on his payroll. Ritter first claims that the build-up was just a ploy to demonstrate NATO's impotence so NATO had to either agree to trade it’s open-door policy for Russian agreement not to deploy into the Western Hemisphere, or force a confrontation that will result in a Russian invasion of Ukraine that is seen by Europe as being the fault of the US.

That of course turned out to be wrong as Putin did invade and turned out to be not so smart and sophisticated as the invasion pulled NATO together and made it stronger. Putin's army also proved not to smart and sophisticated. In fact, it's just the opposite and now the world knows that too.

Lira sounds like another trump as he called the invasion brilliant and lies that the Russian army takes care not to harm civilians.

Both he and Ritter no longer have an ounce of credibility.

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