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Boydog

(718 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:34 PM Apr 2022

Why do we have a Manhattan DA that we don't even know we can trust?

Is Bragg an elected official? In a report on MSNBC there is concern that he might be lying when he says investigation of Trump is vigorous and ongoing.

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Why do we have a Manhattan DA that we don't even know we can trust? (Original Post) Boydog Apr 2022 OP
Correct me if wrong.... calguy Apr 2022 #1
You are correct, 183,000 of his fellow new yorkers voted for him. He got over 80 percent of the vote bottomofthehill Apr 2022 #2
Unfortunately, I'm one of the 80% choie Apr 2022 #4
Me too. His resume/qualifications seemed fine and Golden Raisin Apr 2022 #28
He won the Democratic primary with 34% of the vote. The runner-up got 31%. The margin was 9k vote Princess Turandot Apr 2022 #31
Alvin Leonard Bragg Jr. (born October 21, 1973) is the current New York County District Attorney. elleng Apr 2022 #3
Be that as it may but there is some speculation Boydog Apr 2022 #5
Deciding to go slow, or whatever, on the trump case... brush Apr 2022 #7
Didn't Bragg return documents/evidence back to poli-junkie Apr 2022 #6
He needs to be removed or step down and the people of that district need to demand it. Boydog Apr 2022 #8
but we can trust him..... to do the mafia's bidding getagrip_already Apr 2022 #9
Yes, he is a duly elected DEMOCRAT, and I trust he knows what he's doing Hoyt Apr 2022 #10
You make it sound like..... MyOwnPeace Apr 2022 #13
Fine, spend the rest of your life hating on trump, so he keeps winning. Hoyt Apr 2022 #16
Fine, spend the rest of your life working to ensure iemanja Apr 2022 #19
He is not above law. And he's a beaten POS. I'm not going to crucify Bragg. Hoyt Apr 2022 #24
Asking an elected representative to do his job iemanja Apr 2022 #25
His job is to run the DA's office, not participate in retribution. Do you live Hoyt Apr 2022 #29
Cyrus Vance was pretty certain there was plenty enough evidence to indict Trump. Boydog Apr 2022 #18
Yet Vance didn't indict him. In fact, he chose not to run again. Bragg's Hoyt Apr 2022 #21
yup, I'm going to assume that I don't have all the information before damning Bragg Amishman Apr 2022 #27
Exactly. If Bragg is in trump's pocket, lock Bragg up or vote him out. Hoyt Apr 2022 #30
Retribution Beyond Losing & Dying A Pitiful Old POS SoCalDavidS Apr 2022 #14
So, you want to get him so he doesn't run again? Sorry, that ain't Democracy. Hoyt Apr 2022 #17
Elected representatives serve at the will of the people iemanja Apr 2022 #20
Fine, crucify Bragg. If trump runs, IMO we need to prepare to beat him at polls. Hoyt Apr 2022 #22
And how does ensuring a lawful prosecution iemanja Apr 2022 #23
If Bragg doesn't think conviction is likely, I trust him. He's closer to it and Hoyt Apr 2022 #26
Bragg has said the investigation is proceeding. brooklynite Apr 2022 #11
proceeding to swirl in the toilet bowl? NCjack Apr 2022 #12
Translation: Bragg feeling political heat. Process is ongoing but not going anywhere. Sneederbunk Apr 2022 #15

Golden Raisin

(4,751 posts)
28. Me too. His resume/qualifications seemed fine and
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:41 PM
Apr 2022

he received sterling endorsements from Preet Bharara, Dan Goldman and many other folks I respect. I am having serious regret/remorse. Something down there smells extremely fishy.

Princess Turandot

(4,906 posts)
31. He won the Democratic primary with 34% of the vote. The runner-up got 31%. The margin was 9k vote
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 08:12 PM
Apr 2022

The remainder was split among 6 other candidates. None of the 8 were exactly household names.

In local NYC races in heavily Democratic NY/Manhattan County, the primary effectively was the election, since no Republican would have mounted a serious challenge to a nearly guaranteed loss.

(Disclosure: Personally, I only voted in the primary, largely because I forgot to order an absentee ballot for the general. With the exception of Bragg, every candidate whom I voted for in the primary easily won their general election.)

elleng

(141,926 posts)
3. Alvin Leonard Bragg Jr. (born October 21, 1973) is the current New York County District Attorney.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:45 PM
Apr 2022

On November 2, 2021, he became the first African-American and first person of color elected to that office.[2] Bragg previously served as chief deputy attorney general of New York and as an assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Bragg

Boydog

(718 posts)
5. Be that as it may but there is some speculation
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:50 PM
Apr 2022

that he is allowing the investigation with the evidence that Cyrus Vance said was substantial enough to indict Trump to go down the toilet.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
7. Deciding to go slow, or whatever, on the trump case...
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:55 PM
Apr 2022

it will probably make him a one-term DA.

IMO he miscalculated tremendously. Seems he'd jump at the chance to be the one who finally got trump. Could've let to the Senate, Governor's mansion...maybe even the WH.

Not smart.

poli-junkie

(1,506 posts)
6. Didn't Bragg return documents/evidence back to
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:52 PM
Apr 2022

to people his office requested such evidence one month after he started his job? Where did the evidence go? And back to whom? And why was it returned in such haste?

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
9. but we can trust him..... to do the mafia's bidding
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:08 PM
Apr 2022

In this case, the russian mafia. scary bunch.

But he is not qualified for that office and should be recalled, or impeached.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Yes, he is a duly elected DEMOCRAT, and I trust he knows what he's doing
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:37 PM
Apr 2022

and has bigger and more importantly things to do than commit the resources of the DA’s Office to going after trump to please those who need retribution beyond trump losing and dying a pitiful old POS.

If he has hard evidence and at least one witness who’ll testify against trump, great. If not, he’s doing the right thing.

MyOwnPeace

(17,460 posts)
13. You make it sound like.....
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:48 PM
Apr 2022

the 'driving force' for charges against TFG (aka: IQ45) is that people want/need 'retribution' in the case of TFG (aka: IQ45).

I would argue that the 'people' want JUSTICE - and the failure to correct wrong-doings would only allow MORE wrong-doings in any corrupt administrations that would follow.

Two attorneys working the case said it was clear that there were laws broken. They were not concerned about 'any one person' - they believed they had the facts.

YES, people want him to be 'nailed!'

But, more importantly, people want JUSTICE - EQUAL RIGHTS for ALL. NOBODY is ABOVE the LAW!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Fine, spend the rest of your life hating on trump, so he keeps winning.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:21 PM
Apr 2022

He was convicted by the only court that matters to me, voters.

We have more important things to do that concentrating on trump.

And, the bashing of a duly elected Democrat, new in the job, is not something I’m going to participate in, while trump laughs at us eating our own.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. His job is to run the DA's office, not participate in retribution. Do you live
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:42 PM
Apr 2022

in Manhattan. If so, vote Bragg out in 2025. Don’t crucify him.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. Yet Vance didn't indict him. In fact, he chose not to run again. Bragg's
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:33 PM
Apr 2022

assessment is they won’t be able to convict him with at least one inside witness willing to testify against trump.

Yet, we crucify Bragg - a duly elected Democrat - for some dang reason. trump keeps winning.

Amishman

(5,918 posts)
27. yup, I'm going to assume that I don't have all the information before damning Bragg
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:41 PM
Apr 2022

There is a painful trend to jumping to conclusions when a pattern fits what we want to believe.

Vance didn't indict, Bragg isn't doing it either. Either both otherwise respected Democratic DAs are in Trump's pocket, or the case isn't as strong or clean-cut as we want to believe. The latter definitely seems to be the explanation that passes Occam's Razor.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
14. Retribution Beyond Losing & Dying A Pitiful Old POS
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:00 PM
Apr 2022

I guess I'm relieved to know that he's not going to run again in 2 years, or be a factor in elections until the day he dies. Thank you for putting my mind at ease.

iemanja

(57,631 posts)
20. Elected representatives serve at the will of the people
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:32 PM
Apr 2022

and there are provisions for recalling them. They are not imperial fiefdoms, and just because someone holds office as a D doesn't make them right, as you have claimed in this thread. Whereas you seem to suggest that mere citizens have no right to criticize their elected officials. THAT is not democracy.

iemanja

(57,631 posts)
23. And how does ensuring a lawful prosecution
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:36 PM
Apr 2022

detract from beating Trump at the polls? It would seem to me that it would in fact help it. Or is this a can't walk and chew gum at the same time analysis?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
26. If Bragg doesn't think conviction is likely, I trust him. He's closer to it and
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:39 PM
Apr 2022

thankfully knows trump is not the most important issue his office has to deal with. In fact, it would detract from those other issues.

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