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Sun Apr 10, 2022, 08:54 AM

Beware those carrying fear, uncertainty and doubt about Democrats.

If you hear or read something that makes you think less of Democrats, think about who stands to gain if Republicans take over Congress in this fall's elections. There's a lot at stake. Who will make billions of dollars if the Republicans are allowed to fully enact their sociopathic plans?

The invasion of Ukraine isn't going well for Putin. Who would he want back in the White House?

If Republicans take back the majority in just one house of Congress, they will block every single effort by Biden. Biden will be blamed for everything that happens and Trump or someone like Trump will be elected in 2024.

Your friends, relatives, online buddies may be well-meaning but the propaganda is real, it's everywhere, and it's designed to be very persuasive. Beware of the agenda behind negativity aimed at Democrats.

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Reply Beware those carrying fear, uncertainty and doubt about Democrats. (Original post)
yardwork Apr 2022 OP
gab13by13 Apr 2022 #1
yardwork Apr 2022 #2
Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #50
mcar Apr 2022 #4
yardwork Apr 2022 #9
JohnSJ Apr 2022 #11
uponit7771 Apr 2022 #32
mcar Apr 2022 #3
Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #13
yardwork Apr 2022 #16
mcar Apr 2022 #21
yardwork Apr 2022 #25
KPN Apr 2022 #59
uponit7771 Apr 2022 #33
yardwork Apr 2022 #39
uponit7771 Apr 2022 #64
yardwork Apr 2022 #68
brer cat Apr 2022 #5
mcar Apr 2022 #8
Tommymac Apr 2022 #17
mcar Apr 2022 #20
Tommymac Apr 2022 #34
mcar Apr 2022 #35
Cha Apr 2022 #76
KS Toronado Apr 2022 #26
yardwork Apr 2022 #28
mcar Apr 2022 #29
Magoo48 Apr 2022 #6
Emile Apr 2022 #7
yardwork Apr 2022 #12
FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #38
Magoo48 Apr 2022 #66
Pobeka Apr 2022 #10
MineralMan Apr 2022 #14
yardwork Apr 2022 #15
MineralMan Apr 2022 #18
yardwork Apr 2022 #19
jaxexpat Apr 2022 #22
MineralMan Apr 2022 #23
FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #44
yardwork Apr 2022 #48
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Cha Apr 2022 #77
yardwork Apr 2022 #80
MineralMan Apr 2022 #63
jalan48 Apr 2022 #24
yardwork Apr 2022 #27
jalan48 Apr 2022 #30
yardwork Apr 2022 #31
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yardwork Apr 2022 #37
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yardwork Apr 2022 #43
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yardwork Apr 2022 #57
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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:01 AM

1. The propaganda of which you speak,

is coming from the entirety of the MSM.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:02 AM

2. Them too. The New York Times, for instance.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:26 AM

50. Read The Gurardian

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:13 AM

4. One might think they want Republicans to win

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Response to mcar (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:19 AM

9. That is their only goal. There's great power in having a single goal.

Sometimes evil is simple. It's easier to lie than to tell a complex truth. It's easier to break things than to build.

It's easy to take over the world and amass trillions of dollars of dirty money if you don't care who you have to kill, torture and enslave in order to achieve that goal.

Funding troll farms is a good return on investment, and because of the labor system the sociopaths themselves create and nurture, there are plenty of desperate people happy to sign up for the work.

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Response to mcar (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:21 AM

11. I think to a large degree there is corporate interests at work here.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:01 AM

32. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 The M$M did the EXACT SAME THING to Obama economy. Its NOT just the economy

... for it was dems would control everything

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:12 AM

3. The chorus grows louder every midterm election

when a Democrat is in the WH. Dems bad, Dems suck, Dems haven't done anything. Nothing is ever good enough for some.

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Response to mcar (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:28 AM

13. Same all over. Following is some interesting stuff on French politics

I came across in researching the Macron/LePen debacle.

Seems they are not much different than us, a squishy back and forth middle, driven entirely by perceived economic conditions.

Only difference is that here, the GOP are trying to cement in their power once they get their next chance at the see-saw.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/08/french-politics-marine-le-pen-france-europe

France is an angry country. It is always an angry country. It is especially angry at present because the Ukraine war has inflated already high petrol, diesel and food prices. But there is no real appetite in France for confrontational policies that would destroy an 80-year postwar political consensus of outward-looking tolerance and European unity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/22/people-feel-suffocated-cost-of-living-tops-french-concerns-before-election

But it was when a young relative working as a rural healthcare assistant recently broke down and wept at the fuel pump because she could barely afford the petrol to get to work that Martin’s anger rose. “How can there not be a mood of revolt?” she asked.

Worries about purchasing power and how to make ends meet have become French voters’ top concern before the April presidential election. The government says that, on paper, people have more in their wallets since Emmanuel Macron’s election in 2017. The treasury estimates that gross disposable income, which economists use as a gauge of purchasing power, has grown twice as fast under Macron than under his two predecessors, helped by tax cuts and job creation.

But because food and fuel prices are rising, and because fixed costs such as housing, insurance, energy and phone bills account for such a large part of French budgets, voters feel a sense of daily struggle. An Ifop poll last month showed 69% of people felt their purchasing power had deteriorated over Macron’s term.

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Response to Strelnikov_ (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:32 AM

16. The right wing creates this crisis and then blames the left.

It happens over and over.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:49 AM

21. And the MSM wakes up every morning and says

"What are Republicans mad about today?" That forms the basis of their reporting/opining.

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Response to mcar (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:54 AM

25. Because their goals align!

I heard media leaders who claimed to be Democrats openly snicker about Trump. They thought he was funny. I heard a highly placed media leader muse about whether it was correct to refer to Trump as a liar, since he might not have the mental capacity to understand he was lying. This was said with a laugh and got a laugh from the room filled with wealthy powerful people.

These people are selling our democracy in order to become millionaires. They think it doesn't matter.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:47 AM

59. And apathetic and uninformed voters fall for it ... over and over. BTW,

excellent OP. Now is not the time to criticize our party — past, present or future.

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Response to mcar (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:05 AM

33. +1, ... and Obama and Biden have proven it CAN NOT be the "economy stupid". There's something ...

... more that keeps there poll numbers down and its not dem messaging.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #33)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:14 AM

39. Blaming the Democrats for "poor messaging" is one of the tricks.

How many times have we been told that it's our fault for advocating for civil rights? FauxNews runs 24/7 lies and hysteria about critical race theory while ignoring the criminal behavior of Republicans, but somehow it's all the Democrats fault for "distracting" people with demands for equality.

Makes me furious.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #39)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:15 AM

64. Correct, its not that dems don't need a Stacy Abrams program in every CoC we do. That's operational

... issues that can be turned on a dime when leadership sees the benefits,

The bigger issue is there's a thought stream in regards to what's even rational for high approval has been broken two democratic presidents in a row.

Biden has IT ALL

Great economy
Record low employment
Going hard on the international scene

and his approval ratings in the low 40s !?!?!

There are outside forces acting inside, Biden has done a decent job at taking victory laps ...

We need a fact check consortium to keep them straight

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #64)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:45 AM

68. I agree on all points.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:13 AM

5. It's getting louder and louder too.

Negativity is a good voter turn-off tool.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:16 AM

8. The "Biden didn't give me my pony" crowd

is getting louder as well.

The man saved millions of lives from Covid, brought the economy back, passed several important laws, got the 1st black woman confirmed to SCOTUS and dozens of great jurists added to federal courts - in less than 2 years and with an evenly divided Congress.

Media focuses only on inflation; the far left on "but he didn't do this."

Doesn't seem like we'll ever learn.

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Response to mcar (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:34 AM

17. Why are you picking on the left side of the party??? We NEED Unity.

Holy Cow man come on.

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:48 AM

20. Why are people on the left picking on the President

and his administration?

Holy cow man, come on.

Right here today on DU there are several OPs slamming the administration, pushing FUD about the midterms, and pulling out those tired old Third Way, neo-liberal tropes.

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:08 AM

35. Nice try

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 01:58 PM

76. Please tell that to those slamming the Biden

Admin & Pres Biden. TY! It's fair to call them out.

Unity! Midterms!

💙💛

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Response to mcar (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:55 AM

26. Speaking of..."but he didn't do this."

MSM never really got on IQ4.5's ass about showing his taxes, no better & cheaper health care plan,
no border wall, mismanagement of covid (like magic it's going to disappear), wanting Ukraine to
manufacture dirt on Biden, attempting to overturn a lost election, etc, etc

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:57 AM

28. Too busy looking for Hillary's emails and criticizing Obama's tan suit.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:58 AM

29. Yep

Case in point: the blockbuster news about Jr.'s text messages outlining their plot to overthrow the government.

NYT had it on page A15. CNN covered it big but it's drifting off.

But her emails.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:14 AM

6. Are you saying we Dems radiate a righteousness beyond self-critique?

Is there a forum where we might discuss our shortcomings and how to improve as a party?

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:16 AM

7. Excellent question!

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:23 AM

12. Is it possible and advisable to engage in self-reflection without electing Republicans?

What if....

Democrats debated candidates during our primaries by celebrating what is good and even better about our candidates, rather than casting doubt on the Democratic Party as a whole?

Democrats whole-heartedly supported the general election candidates who won primaries?

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:14 AM

38. One might almost think that some

don't want the Democratic party to find and correct mistakes. Or to improve.

I wonder which side benefits from that attitude?

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #38)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:31 AM

66. An inventory of what's working and what isn't is essential for individual as well as group growth.

I’m fairly sure different factions of our congress critters meet now and then. I hope they listen to each other; I’m also convinced they’d benefit from really listening at meetings with their constituents.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:21 AM

10. The insanity of it all. "Disappointed Biden can't get things done because of Congress".

I hear that often repeated why there seems to be low enthusiasm among Dem voters.

When, the obvious thing to do is not make it *harder* for Biden to get things through congress by not voting in more Dems. The obvious thing to do is get really motivated and elect even more Dems to congress and solidify the Dem/progressive team so more things can get passed by Biden.

The for profit media needs a horse race to sell media. It's going to take down the planet for a few months of selling more news.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:29 AM

14. I agree 100%. We endanger our goals by detracting from our successes.

We need to stop doing that and focus on electing MORE Democrats. Period. Trumpet our successes and be patient with what has no yet happened. It will, if we stick to our guns and replace Republicans with Democrats in Congress and state legislatures. That should be our primary goal in every election, especially in midterm elections.

Any Democrat is better than every Republican. And that's the truth.

That is, of course, my opinion.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:31 AM

15. I miss Howard Dean and his 50 state strategy.

Our democracy is being taken from us at all levels.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:36 AM

18. Yes. The Democratic Party is becoming a fragmented party.

What we need is majorities and even larger majorities to accomplish the difficult goals.

Every legislative office is important. Every Democrat who replaces any Republican is movement in that direction.

Even Democrats who aren't 100% behind every progressive goal matter. If they will vote with the Democratic caucus in whatever legislative body, they will move us forward. No Republican will do that for us. Not one.

We need a Democratic cushion in legislatures. We need unbreakable majorities for those situations where a few Democrats cannot vote for the most progressive measures but will vote with the caucus on other issues. We have to remember that Republicans will virtually ALWAYS vote against progressive measures.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:39 AM

19. I agree 100%

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:50 AM

22. "Trumpet our successes"

Did you have to bring him into the conversation?

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #22)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:52 AM

23. LOL!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:21 AM

44. Those are all true statements,

but failing to address areas that need improvement is a huge mistake.

Sure, we shouldn't be negative when talking to others we'd like to bring to our side, but if this isn't the place to sound alarms and find answers what is?

The secondary problem is still gonna be the media and internet platforms. We can trumpet successes all we want, but the inattentive public will still be bombarded with laptop-email-biden won't let em drill. The main problem is that republicons are ruthless and have worked nonstop toward their goal of total control. Thanks to the help of two democrats, we have little time left before they get it. Seems pretty naive to just ignore that. I can't personally stop it, but I also can't stop thinking about the implications.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #44)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:24 AM

48. I think you may have misunderstood my OP.

Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) has a specific meaning. I'm talking about trolls and propaganda, not sincere disagreements among Democrats that strengthens the Democratic Party.

I agree with your posting name. Mine is a play on "grass roots."

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Response to yardwork (Reply #48)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:31 AM

56. I agree with you, and it's a good point

to be aware of.

In addition to the purpose those propagandists have, a similar thing is used often to stifle the disagreements and criticism that we have. Even here on this site.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #48)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 02:10 PM

77. Well said, yardwork! I didn't

know what "FUD" meant.. but it didn't sound good.

Mahalo!

💙💛

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Response to Cha (Reply #77)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 02:42 PM

80. Mahalo, Cha!

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #44)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:12 AM

63. Yes, but right-wing players are using FUD to stir up

negative emotions wherever Democrats gather, and that includes DU. Not everyone is what they claim to be.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:53 AM

24. And authoritarianism marches forward....

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:55 AM

27. You want to see authoritarianism in action see what happens if Republicans get control.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #27)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:59 AM

30. Authoritarian speak is authoritarian speak.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #30)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:01 AM

31. If you're accusing me of authoritarian speak please be specific.

Where in my OP do I commit "authoritarian speak?"

I'll wait.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #31)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:08 AM

36. "Beware those carrying fear, uncertainty and doubt about Democrats"

It's primary season. Democrat's are going to cast doubt on their opponents, unless of course, there is an official, "This particular Democrat is ok" policy.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:10 AM

37. Laugh. Out. Loud.

You read at least the first line of my OP and that was your takeaway?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #37)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:19 AM

41. So, Democrat's doubting other Democrats is ok?

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #41)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:21 AM

43. Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) has a specific meaning.

I think you probably know that though.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #43)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:23 AM

46. Just curious, can you say it's ok for Democrats to doubt other Democrats?

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #46)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:32 AM

57. What's the context?

Is the person trying to get you to feel despair about the Democratic Party, or are they trying to strengthen the party? In other words, is the criticism constructive - designed to push for improvement - or is it designed to get people to tune out, give up, or vote third party?

My OP is about troll farms and propaganda. As another poster observed, my OP isn't about DU. It's about a global propaganda campaign designed to destroy democracy. Literally destroy democracy.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #57)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:39 AM

58. Exactly, it's contextual. It's easy to move from a special context to "all" very easily. If you are

suggesting people use their critical thinking skills I'm with you 100%.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #46)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:42 AM

67. Yes, in certain situations it's damn necessary.

Here’s two reasons to doubt other Dems: Manchin, Sinema.

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #67)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:47 AM

69. Manchin votes with Biden's legislation 95% of the time, and Sinema's votes align with 97%

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Response to yardwork (Reply #69)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:50 AM

71. It is essential we debate how to protect ourselves from their future clones.

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #71)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 12:14 PM

73. There are two ways to approach it.

One way is to fight like hell to elect more Democratic senators, attaining a stronger majority so that Manchin, Sinema and other Democrats representing red states lose their power to veto and disrupt Democratic agendas.

The other approach is to point to Manchin and Sinema as examples of why the Democratic Party is "useless" and "can't get anything done" and thus encourage people to give up on the Democratic Party and not vote, or vote third party, or vote for Trump "because they're all the same."

Strategy #2 has been used to great effect to elect Republicans in the past, and I see evidence of it ramping up again, as the midterms near. It's an excellent illustration of my OP.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #73)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 12:24 PM

74. Say the Dems are useless and can't get anything done is as ridiculous as ignoring our weak spots.

Self appraisal is necessary in order to recognize strengths and build upon them and to own weaknesses and shore them up.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #69)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 05:59 PM

82. Only because we don't bring the bills they will vote against to the floor

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:15 AM

40. That is far from authoritarian

Maybe look up the definition?

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:19 AM

42. This is authoritarianism in action:

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #30)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 02:16 PM

79. There's NO "Authoritarian" Going ON HERE!

💙💛

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:24 AM

49. Nothing in the OP is against competition in primaries. You misconstrue


OP says "something that makes you think less of Democrats,"

That is about Democrats in general.

Speaking out against a primary contender, when done with appropriate respect, to make a person think less of ONE Democrat is not attacking all Democrats in general or the party. It is NOT authoritarian to request people to be careful and pay attention to avoid dragging all Democrats or the party down.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #49)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:27 AM

51. Thanks for this. When I see warnings beginning with "Beware" I think it's important to be as

specific as possible.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #51)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:31 AM

55. Okay. YOUR post #24 was really very unspecific. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #49)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:29 AM

53. Thank you.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #49)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:27 PM

87. +1

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #49)

Mon Apr 11, 2022, 05:57 AM

88. the OP should direct this to the Lamb campaign, imo. nt



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Response to jalan48 (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:27 AM

52. Further, the OP was not about DU or D vs D but much wider in scope, about the media etc


Your friends, relatives, online buddies may be well-meaning but the propaganda is real, it's everywhere, and it's designed to be very persuasive. Beware of the agenda behind negativity aimed at Democrats.


That's not authoritarian.



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Response to jalan48 (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 02:13 PM

78. What Are you TALKING ABOUT?!

The OP is a Kind Request to Beware Against FUD!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:23 AM

45. Beware Happy Talk

"People are saying things I don't like, and they should stop that," has rarely served us well. There is always caterwauling about why the media haven't framed this or that story exactly as a partisan would prefer. I see this week it's the NYT, which is a pretty liberal paper all things considered, but some people have convinced themselves is some right-wing behemoth. Which, just lol.

The irony of calling other people purists, really.

I can think of a recent unnamed election where only Happy Talk was allowed, and the people who were pointing out, "Hey, this may not end well," were thanked for their concern and dismissed.

New idea: Embrace reality, good and bad, and proceed accordingly.

Happy Talk is for fan magazines, not for serious policy and politics.

I'm not one to clap for Tinkerbell. I will give her a crutch where I'm able, however. But some people really are all about the clapping as their scientific approach.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #45)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 06:21 PM

83. Actually people are saying things that are not accurate, such as your assumption that

the OP is telling people not to say bad things

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #83)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 07:13 PM

84. Sometimes bad things are accurate

As are good things.

Lies by omission are still lies.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #84)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 07:44 PM

85. People expressing views and opinions, that's all

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #85)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 08:35 PM

86. More attempting to monitor views and opinions

By laying out what is good speech and what is bad speech in their view with a plea to follow them in this monitoring of good speech and bad speech.

That's the nice thing about opinions - no attempt to argue a point is required.

I'm not even sure what the argument is in this thread. "Remember, when people are saying things you don't want to hear, dive down into the bubble even harder." I mean, ok?

I wish people were more informed than they are before they hop on the internet. It's likelier to rain unicorns.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #86)

Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:04 AM

89. Things are facts or they're not. That's the point.

Opinions not based on facts are bullshit.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:24 AM

47. Totally agree. In my small circle Dems are fired up and pissed off. VOTE!

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #47)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:29 AM

54. Wonderful to hear!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:53 AM

60. I have fear but it is about the GOP.

President Biden knows what kind of unnatural creature Putin is.
I have seen major GOP figures seek Putin’s approval. In fact many members of that party would have us on our knees before him.
I have seen Governors of two vastly populated Southern States continually demonize minorities and civil rights.
I have seen laws passed by the GOP that will create mercenaries and vigilantes to hunt down women trying to control their reproductive lives in their most vulnerable moment.
Voting- we know what they will do and have done.
Governance by tweet or owning the libs is not a platform for a country seeking to survive in today’s complex world.

Doubt and uncertainty about the future I have. Fear of those that reveal in oppression I have.
But where I forever stand is with the Democratic Party and may it continue to save our fragile republic.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Reply #60)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:55 AM

61. Well said.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:11 AM

62. Spot on.......nt.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:24 AM

65. Recommended.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #65)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:48 AM

70. Thank you. I miss George (and John).

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:52 AM

72. K&R

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 12:42 PM

75. Agreed. Democratic Americans need to be highly vigilant. Nt

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 03:25 PM

81. Thank you, best OP I have read in a long time.

I agree 💯 percent.

Now let’s go vote to make our Democracy strong. We need a bright blue Tsunami 🌊 this year.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2022, 08:13 AM

90. I keep seeing memes that things are terrible in America

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but it doesn't feel terrible. There are plenty of jobs and high wages. Fewer Americans are dying of COVID. The only downsides are high prices.

America has more small businesses now than before COVID https://eig.org/news/more-physical-places-of-businesses-open-now-than-pre-pandemic-led-by-sun-belt-metros

Russia is behind Qanon. They are openly supporting Russia in the war and spreading lies about Ukraine. Too many in the GQP have fallen for it.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #90)

Mon Apr 11, 2022, 10:51 AM

91. Ads for Republicans in central NC call Biden "the worst president ever."

There's no push back. It's gaslighting and I agree it's funded by people who don't want America to survive as a democracy.

Thanks for your post. You get it.

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