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PlanetBev

(4,416 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 02:29 PM Apr 2022

It makes me crazy knowing that Russian tanks are bearing down on Ukraine

With a new general they call “The Butcher” and all we can do is watch. Yeah, yeah, I know, if the USA and Europe got involved we’d have WWIII. I just can’t bear knowing that one country can do this shit right in front of the rest of the world.

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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
3. Do we really believe that someone so terrified of a germ
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:01 PM
Apr 2022

would risk his death by starting a nuclear war?

Bettie

(19,872 posts)
4. One country can do it with impunity, knowing the world won't
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:05 PM
Apr 2022

really do anything to stop.

Once everyone currently in Ukraine is dead or has left as a refugee, they'll take over and put their own people there.

And the world will watch as nation after nation is gobbled up, because everyone is afraid.

This also tells China that when they decide to take Taiwan, violently, brutally, ultimately, there might be sanctions, but no one will stop it.

This is our world now. Putin gets what he wants at the cost of his own people's lives, but he's willing to pay in other people's lives.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. It makes me content to know that Ukraine has been supplied with the latest ground
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:22 PM
Apr 2022

and air weapons that include very effective anti-tank weapons. I only hope that
"The Butcher" chooses to lead his tank units personally.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
6. I hope this paralyzing fear of Putin and his nukes doesn't carry when a NATO nation is attacked n/t
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:26 PM
Apr 2022

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
10. That's what I am afraid of also. Will the West really risk a nuclear war over protecting a
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:46 PM
Apr 2022

small Eastern European country that happens to belong to NATO?

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
11. If they don't stand up for NATO members even in the face of a nuclear strike
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:49 PM
Apr 2022

They are no better that Trump.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
8. I suspect that the brave Ukrainians will be handing those Russians their lunch just as
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:44 PM
Apr 2022

they have been doing up to now. Of course, very sadly, many innocents will suffer.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
12. The entire mess is far past anything I would have thought Putin would do.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 03:50 PM
Apr 2022

He has become a monster man.

Nululu

(1,116 posts)
14. Call Putin's bluff or watch another genocide.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 04:08 PM
Apr 2022

There's always a choice. Putin will not stop until we stop him. Our cowardice is inexcusable.

PlanetBev

(4,416 posts)
16. Agreed
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 09:23 PM
Apr 2022

If the hope is that he’ll be placated with Ukraine, NATO will eventually have to deal with him elsewhere.

modrepub

(4,189 posts)
15. I Wouldn't Want To Be In A Russian Tank In Ukraine
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 04:47 PM
Apr 2022

They way they're getting hit by Ukrainians, that be the last place I'd want to be.

I really don't see the Russians turning the tide. If we keep suppling Ukraine with the means to defend themselves, and Ukrainians keep the will to fight, then Russian tanks and other military equipment will continue to get knocked out. Putin's only means of saving face is to keep destroying things in hopes he can get some concessions.

You wonder at some point when Ukraine will begin to hit targets in Russia in retaliation.

As I've said before, there are no winners in war, only degrees of losing. Nothing really good is going to come of this until it stops.

BootinUp

(51,635 posts)
17. Yes, it got real hard
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 09:29 PM
Apr 2022

to watch end of last week. I am hoping the Ukrainians can get all these new weapons ready for immediate action. Slava Ukraini!

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