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NJCher

(35,732 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 05:43 PM Apr 2022

Train gates were down when media critic Eric Boehlert was struck, killed, NJ Transit says

This accident happened only a few blocks from where I used to live. I go back to the neighborhood often--I moved only a short distance away-- and next time I am there, am going to look again at this crossing. I just can't imagine Eric crossing in front of an ongoing train when the gates were down and lights flashing. It makes no sense; no sense at all.

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Investigators said Monday the safety equipment at the Montclair train station where media critic Eric Boehlert was struck and killed while riding his bicycle was operating normally at the time of the crash.

Boehlert, 56, died after he was struck about 9:40 p.m. April 4, by a train on the Montclair-Boonton line near the Montclair station, authorities said.

Boehlert was riding his bike over the tracks at North Fullerton Avenue when he was hit by a train headed for Hackettstown in Warren County, according to NJ Transit.

“The investigation indicated that safety mechanisms were working as intended at North Fullerton,” said Jim Smith, spokesman for NJ Transit. Smith confirmed the gates were down and lights were flashing at the time of the crash.

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more at link, mostly about his career and family in Montclair, NJ.

https://www.nj.com/essex/2022/04/train-gates-were-down-when-media-critic-eric-boehlert-was-struck-killed-nj-transit-says.html

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Train gates were down when media critic Eric Boehlert was struck, killed, NJ Transit says (Original Post) NJCher Apr 2022 OP
This information will lead to all kinds of speculation. madaboutharry Apr 2022 #1
yup mopinko Apr 2022 #4
Everyone who crosses against the gates thinks they can beat the train. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #2
Any video from the train's perspective, or testimony from the engineer? bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #3
don't know NJCher Apr 2022 #8
It seems like the train should have a front face camera recording? USALiberal Apr 2022 #5
Most trains don't brooklynite Apr 2022 #12
Thanks!! USALiberal Apr 2022 #13
Thought he could beat the train. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #6
Possibly thought he could beat the train and lost traction going over the wet rails and fell Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #7
It does say he was riding his bike when he was hit - nothing about wiping out first Blues Heron Apr 2022 #9
Many runners and cyclists use ear buds for music bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #10
Very good point! Talitha Apr 2022 #21
I had a nasty crash once, crossing railroad tracks relayerbob Apr 2022 #19
Goggling around, I see that over 500 people a year are killed... TreasonousBastard Apr 2022 #11
I just posted on another thread that I saw two people go around gates today. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #15
You're right-- perspectives, optics and such always make... TreasonousBastard Apr 2022 #18
Yes, this one seems to be a real turtle, and he often stops on the tracks or just before. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #20
Sadly, these accidents are too common Ocelot II Apr 2022 #14
When I as big into cycling, had a train crossing within 75 yards of my house. Hoyt Apr 2022 #16
Was He Hit Straight On By The Train Or Was It A Glancing Hit From The.... global1 Apr 2022 #17
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
6. Thought he could beat the train.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 05:56 PM
Apr 2022

I saw it this very morning on my way to the park. Gates were down, lights flashing.

I could see the train, which seemed to be moving very slowly. A guy in a car went around the gates, and another guy on a bike dodged across.

I just shook my head, turned around and headed to the other entrance of the park.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
7. Possibly thought he could beat the train and lost traction going over the wet rails and fell
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 05:58 PM
Apr 2022

that's entirely plausible, especially when one considers how very narrow the contact patch between the tire and the road surface actually is, especially on road bike tires pumped up to 120psi; if he was going between the barriers, he may have been at something of a diagonal relative to the rails,which likely increases the likelihood of such an accident; anyone who cycles knows how easy it is to have a nasty accident if you go over painted lines in the road in wet conditions, and I expect what happened here was likely something very similar. It's unfortunate, but speaking from my experience as someone who averages between twenty and fifty miles of cycling a week, weather and season dependent, it doesn't seem to be at all unlikely, unfortunately.

relayerbob

(6,555 posts)
19. I had a nasty crash once, crossing railroad tracks
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:32 PM
Apr 2022

on a bike. Hit the rails at an angle, not even a particularly high one, the wheel turned and slipped in, the bike stopped dead and I went flying. Fortunately, there was no train anywhere nearby, but I gained a healthy respect for train tracks while bije riding that day.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. Goggling around, I see that over 500 people a year are killed...
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:04 PM
Apr 2022

playing around with trains. Not all of them at crossings, but a lot of them.

I also found that there's 20 to 30 seconds between the time the lights flash and the train is there. For commuter trains, I've noticed a longer wait if there's a station close to the crossing.

So, it's not at all rare for crossing accidents to happen and it's entirely possible for someone in a hurry to run or bicycle across the tracks, in reasonable safety, when the lights start.

Not that it's recommended, but it happens

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
15. I just posted on another thread that I saw two people go around gates today.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:09 PM
Apr 2022

That train always seems to be moving very slowly, and people do this all the time. I hate seeing it.

I just turn around and go a different way.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
18. You're right-- perspectives, optics and such always make...
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:15 PM
Apr 2022

objects look slower the farther away they are.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
20. Yes, this one seems to be a real turtle, and he often stops on the tracks or just before.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:45 PM
Apr 2022

I have no interest in second guessing him. Ever.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
14. Sadly, these accidents are too common
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:06 PM
Apr 2022

because people underestimate the speed of the train and think they can beat it across the tracks. My dad was an attorney for a railroad, and for awhile he handled grade crossing accidents. Unless the signals or crossing gates had failed, these accidents were almost always the crosser's fault because they - usually driving a car but occasionally a pedestrian - thought they could make it across the tracks ahead of the train. People misjudge trains' speed because of their size, and they also don't realize that even if the engineer sees you from a considerable distance he will not be able to stop the train in time - the combination of mass and speed prevents it.

Needless to say, we kids were told in no uncertain terms to stay away from train tracks and never, ever try to cross if the signal was on or the gate was down. The only spanking I remember was the result of the time when I climbed up the railroad embankment not far from our house to check out the train tracks.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. When I as big into cycling, had a train crossing within 75 yards of my house.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:13 PM
Apr 2022

Often beat the train because the wait could be 20 minutes.

But never tried it when the train was so close I couldn’t crawl/roll out of the way if necessary.

RIP. No one will ever know why he tried it.

global1

(25,270 posts)
17. Was He Hit Straight On By The Train Or Was It A Glancing Hit From The....
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:14 PM
Apr 2022

side of the train?

Usually at RR crossings they have a camera hooked up or there is a camera on the engine of the train.

Were there any witnesses to the accident?

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