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Mon Apr 11, 2022, 11:46 PM

If the Russians are using chemical agents

then, KICK THEM OUT OF THE UN Security Council . Take it to the GA to avoid the veto, and KICK THEM TO THE CURB. They have no place in a civilized meeting. They won't be missed. Replace them with...Ukraine! I don't know, someone who doesn't rape toddlers, kill men and women, and drop chemicals on civilians.

Honest to G-d, this shit is killing me. I want my only problem to be, how to hatch eggs in an incubator on my kitchen table. I'm going to spend some time supporting the World Central Kitchen.

I feel BAD about Syria. I feel BAD about Yemen (some really fine music from Northern Command back in the day.) But, this war is equally bad, and I want it to end with Ukraine winning!

Bomb the living crap out of their fleets. I thought Trump had beaten me up pretty bad, but it seems as if Putin also has the capacity to desensitize me into wishing for destruction on his ass. And, I am a lot TALLER than his tiny carcass! Eff you, Putin, your new warlord, and all who support you!

KICK RUSSIA OUT OF THE UN.

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EndlessWire Apr 2022 OP
dchill Apr 2022 #1
OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2022 #2
Hoyt Apr 2022 #3
David__77 Apr 2022 #9
roamer65 Apr 2022 #4
EndlessWire Apr 2022 #5
roamer65 Apr 2022 #6
EndlessWire Apr 2022 #11
roamer65 Apr 2022 #15
LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #7
David__77 Apr 2022 #8
EndlessWire Apr 2022 #12
ripcord Apr 2022 #14
abqtommy Apr 2022 #10
EndlessWire Apr 2022 #13
abqtommy Apr 2022 #17
ripcord Apr 2022 #16
EndlessWire Apr 2022 #19
former9thward Apr 2022 #18
EndlessWire Apr 2022 #20

Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2022, 11:56 PM

1. One thing for sure - it's time for Putin to LOSE.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:01 AM

2. Total bullshit, for what reason would Putin do this?

Because he is a dickhead Hitler wannabe.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:04 AM

3. Hopefully, Biden and NATO will take action IF CONFIRMED.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 06:04 AM

9. No, Biden will continue standing strong.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 01:03 AM

4. If Putler is using chemical weapons and continues to use them...

after being warned to stop, there is only one real way to level the playing field for Ukraine.

Give them equal chemical weapon munitions such as VX nerve gas. Thatís our equivalent to Novichok.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 02:11 AM

5. No.

I disagree. Use of any biological or chemical weapon is against humanity. It does not level the playing field. It would not make Ukraine whole.

We could shock Russia by throwing all in, sink all their ships in retaliation. They have already been warned against the use of chemical weapons. They know what they are doing is a crime. They don't care. We will have no further obligation regarding our self imposed rules against boots on the ground. But, we should never use any such agents.

By your logic, we should be kidnapping and raping Russian toddlers. That would, of course, be a crime against humanity which I would not like our side to commit. I understand your rage; I have a considerable amount of my own. But, we can't do that.

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 02:53 AM

6. Mutual Assured Destruction.

MAD.

Russians only know force, as we applied during the Cold War.

The rape comment is unwarranted and out of the topic. Nowhere in my statement do I advocate it.

Retract it.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:12 PM

11. No, I won't.

It is a logic discussion only; nowhere did I say that you advocated that. I said that your logic is faulty. Tit for tat doesn't work in this situation. I object to your saying that we should inflict nerve poisoning on Russian soldiers. You retract that.

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:36 PM

15. No.

Not when Russian orcs are already using chemical weapons in Mariupol.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 03:14 AM

7. Russian has been committing so many war crimes that Putin feels free to commit a few more

It is time to give Ukraine airplanes and other more offensive weapons

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 06:03 AM

8. This is equivalent to demanding end of UN.

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Response to David__77 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:14 PM

12. So be it.

Nothing under the sun is meant to last forever, anyway. Evolve or fail.

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Response to David__77 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:22 PM

14. The U.N. has 4 main purposes

To keep peace throughout the world;
To develop friendly relations among nations;
To help nations work together to improve the lives of poor people, to conquer hunger, disease and illiteracy, and to encourage respect for each otherís rights and freedoms;
To be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations to achieve these goals


How many of those can't be kept right now because Russia is using the rules to stop the U.N. from fulfilling their purposes? If the U.N. can't fulfill their purpose what is the use of having a place for nations to talk Russia isn't listening and is laughing at the U.N.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 06:31 AM

10. Let's not stop with kicking Russia out of the U.N. Let's kick out China and all the other

countries that support their agenda. Enough is too much already!

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:19 PM

13. China is a PITA

but they haven't yet done anything to warrant exclusion, despite their mean, aggressive purging of those that don't fit their ideas, and the threat to Taiwan. Plus, the fake islands...still, they aren't raping civilians or bombing with chemicals. We can still talk with them. There is no more talking with Russia. Putin is mad.

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 01:35 PM

17. One thing I've learned from history is that Fascists/Communists not directly invoved in

any fighting are at the minimum complicit. Yes, those groups love to talk while they're
taking over and stabbing their enemies in the back. Don't forget Tiananmen Square,
the Uighurs and Hong Kong.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 12:38 PM

16. Many people have no idea the repercussions that this could lead to

If Russia uses any WMD, chemical, biological or nuclear and any of it drifts into a NATO nation it can be considered an attack.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 02:23 PM

19. Nothing will happen.

They have already fired on and sunk NATO shipping. Nobody said a thing.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 02:05 PM

18. It can not be done.

The White House has said that. The GA can't pass binding resolutions. The SC has veto power over any GA resolution that would have the UN do some action. Want Russia out of the UN? Fine, create a whole new international body without them in it.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 02:25 PM

20. So be it.

We'd all be better off. Neither one of them are helpful. I'd kick them out based on their Olympic Manifesto alone. They want to use the UN as a PR vehicle to lead the world, with them being the leaders.

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