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Cpl. Beddoe, USMC'81?@usmc81
Soldiers of the 3rd Inf Reg. continue to stand guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. #HONOR #Sandy
sweettater
(729 posts)If you have never seen the changing of the guard, you should. It is amazing.
formercia
(18,479 posts)They can party hearty off duty. 2 crazy Black Women. One was a Vet that took care of the Horses, and the other worked at the White House.
malaise
(268,968 posts)Get out of harm's way.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)Tradition is great. But, Mother Nature should not be taken lightly. Those boys should be out of harm's way!
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)I live in the DC area. Tonight or tomorrow they may be in danger from high winds, but just now it's just raining hard and a little windy. Just a little.
Javaman
(62,521 posts)This is why they are there.
Probably one of their proudest moments.
As a Marine mom, I'm sure their parents are wishing they'd get the hell out of there, but I also know how proud those parents are.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)For real. These guys are incredibly dedicated to what they do. The spend hours each day just preparing their uniforms before going on watch.
PB
calimary
(81,238 posts)Another demonstration of service, sacrifice, and devotion to duty.
Yep.
lastlib
(23,224 posts)They always refuse. The Tomb is that important to them.
They amaze me.
troutbrook
(1 post)A comment like that means...you just don't get it!! Ever faithful!!
calimary
(81,238 posts)I guess this is just one dramatic way to demonstrate it, or symbolize it. While I too (as a mom) wish those boys were inside where they're warm and dry and hopefully not catching cold. That said, I clearly recognize the meaning behind the service in that photo. It's all about devotion to duty. Honor. Sacrifice. Service. To something greater. To some, that kind of thing will never make sense. But the transcendent is essential to our nature, and it's what elevates us out of the lizard-brain slime.
Grins
(7,217 posts)There is no standing order that they MUST be on guard during dangerous weather conditions. Some ignore the order to stand-down.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"At some point...
What is that precise and relevant point, and on what objective measure is that based on?
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)The concept that they are left out to die is an urban legend promoted largely by chicken hawk conservatives.
My uncle worked at Arlington (civilian) for 25 years.
yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)and this is my opinion, but I believe honor supersedes life.
LP2K12
(885 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I know what these soldiers do is important but so is their lives!
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I have known some of these guys, and the Third Herd eats this shit up!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)for common sense to kick in
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)I am worried about these soldier as well, but so very proud of them.
DaDeacon
(984 posts)YES, BUT the accomplishment of the mission and welfare of the Soldier is never put at risk. The Tomb Guards have contingencies that are ready to be executed IF the weather conditions EVER place the Soldiers at risk of injury or death such as lightning, high winds, etc. This ensures that Sentinels can maintain the Tomb Guard responsibilities while ensuring soldier safety. It is the responsibility of the Chain of Command from the Sergeant of the Guard to the Regimental Commander to ensure mission accomplishment and soldier welfare at all times.
It was erroneously reported that during Hurricane Isabel, the Sentinels were ordered to abandon their posts for shelter and that they refused. No such order was ever given. All proper precautions were taken to ensure the safety of the Sentinels while accomplishing their mission. Risk assessments are constantly conducted by the Chain of Command during changing conditions to ensure that soldier welfare is maintained during mission accomplishment.
I think as of right now all they are are getting is strong wind and cold heavy rain, any Marine will tell you that's not so bad.
Semper Fi.
sarisataka
(18,633 posts)These soldiers truly understand the meaning of duty
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)three men who could be used to assist with actual storm related activities now. Yes, this monument is an important symbol but leaving it unguarded to help the living would not be a disaster.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)A code of honor between soldiers. I doubt they will break it.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)I stood guard on the Tomb. Not as an honor guard but as a draftee 'guarding' the guards. One four hour tour. I also stood guard on the Lincoln Memorial. Ya' could kinda slouch around during your four hour tour everywhere but here. That was one long fucking four hours.
It was a very interesting time to be in the Army . . .
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)I'll be the one wearing green . . .
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Damn. I'm old.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)I wish our politicians were as dedicated as these young men.
reflection
(6,286 posts)It was powerful and sobering. Seeing these soldiers standing tall makes it even more so.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)September. What's the point of posting it as though it were today?
Edit to add proof.So says Think Progress
https://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/262981124551213056/photo/1
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)it just wasn't taken five minutes ago. Still a beautiful picture.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I don't get the point of being dishonest about the origin, time and space of a picture. Like I said, what's the point?
And beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't find anything beautiful about needless death. I say that as someone who lost a family members in W's senseless war and 2 uncles in the asinine debacle of Nam
The true beauty would be if they were still with us for the holidays rather than the empty place settings we still set
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Because the Army said it was taken today -- they should have said it was a "file photo."
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)The point is the "Old Guard" is still out there.
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)thelarge
(23 posts)THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE!
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)But I think in this case a bit of pragmatism is in order.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)Fuck the Republicans....
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)the casket for burial. My dad and mom are buried there. These young people were so nice and really felt that were happy to be there to support the families. No matter what race or nationality or religion these soldiers are they showed respect to everyone. I will never forget their kindness on the worst day of my life. Wheter your a general or an enlisted man they treat you the same.
tjwash
(8,219 posts)Kindly Refrain
(423 posts)SQUEE
(1,315 posts)That at this moment two young men are not standing as Sentinels at the the Tomb?
Because that's what matters to me, them and most who have served. They are keeping a covenant to their brothers to never leave a fallen comrade behind. If this picture was taken last year, my pride in them and their honor and duty remains.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)By not being truthful about what the photo. There is no reason to lie, and I am personally rather ticked they used the dead and The Guard in this way.
yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The statement is the men are still standing their watch. The picture is not from Hurricane Sandy, but they don't say that it is; However, foul weather one day at the memorial probably isn't greatly different from foul weather on another day.
Turbineguy
(37,324 posts)You can't beat Americans.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Look at the photo. Note the soldier who is facing the camera. Between him and the two guys facing the tomb is a long black stripe. That stripe is actually a heavy rubber covering, similar to AstroTurf without the grass. The guards march back and forth on this when they are guarding the Tomb.
At each end of this walking strip is a small shelter, similar to a telephone booth (I know -- you young folks who were issued a cell phone at birth don't know what a phone booth is, but, trust me -- I'm an Old Redneck). In the case of inclement weather, the guards can stand in the shelter.
There's only one guard on duty at a time. This photo showing three is the changing of the guard. The guy facing the camera is the Sergeant of the Guard. One of the two others is the guard who is going off duty, the other is coming on duty. They go through a set of precision movements so there is no interruption in the guard.
lib87
(535 posts)And pretty bad ass.
(Apologies if that is offensive but that was my first thought lol)
johnt_1956_55
(21 posts)what brave honorable men
Rex
(65,616 posts)Like rain gear. No reason for one to catch a cold and get sick.