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Pic: Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Original Post) riverwalker Oct 2012 OP
So proud. sweettater Oct 2012 #1
I used to hang out with the 'Old Guard' formercia Oct 2012 #4
At some point life should supercede tradition and honor malaise Oct 2012 #2
That is scary. NOLALady Oct 2012 #3
It's not that bad yet. freedom fighter jh Oct 2012 #42
Those soldiers live for this. Javaman Oct 2012 #6
Exactly. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #7
^ This. Poll_Blind Oct 2012 #21
Perhaps that's what the phrase "Semper Fi" means - even if you're not a Marine. calimary Oct 2012 #50
...` The Doctor. Oct 2012 #59
With past storms, they have been offered the chance to stand down. lastlib Oct 2012 #13
Tomb of the Unknowns troutbrook Oct 2012 #14
Welcome to DU, troutbrook! It's all about duty. calimary Oct 2012 #51
They will be pulled Grins Oct 2012 #25
What is that precise and relevant point? LanternWaste Oct 2012 #39
It's most commonly done for lightning Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #55
what is life without honor? ... yawnmaster Oct 2012 #57
Beautiful! LP2K12 Oct 2012 #5
... chills... renate Oct 2012 #8
OMG I hope they pull them when this storm makes landfall LynneSin Oct 2012 #9
Trust me, Lynne. They would have to be physically removed. 11 Bravo Oct 2012 #35
It's seriously time amuse bouche Oct 2012 #10
The Most Honorable of Men.... CherokeeDem Oct 2012 #11
Information about the Guard from "Tombguard.org/society/faq/" DaDeacon Oct 2012 #12
Awesome photo sarisataka Oct 2012 #15
Eternally faithful. Historic NY Oct 2012 #16
I know everyone is getting chills and goosebumps but I'm seeing Skidmore Oct 2012 #17
It's not just 'a symbol', it's part of 'the deal'. No one left behind. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #23
In 1969 during the Vietnam Moritorium (google it) flamin lib Oct 2012 #18
wow rateyes Oct 2012 #20
When you google Vietnam Moritorium click on Images. flamin lib Oct 2012 #26
all the pics are black and white... rateyes Oct 2012 #41
That's what DUTY looks like! Odin2005 Oct 2012 #19
Dedication and honor. n/t Duval Oct 2012 #22
Awesome. blackspade Oct 2012 #24
Just visited that a few weeks ago. reflection Oct 2012 #27
That picture was from amuse bouche Oct 2012 #28
so it's not "fake" oldtime dfl_er Oct 2012 #30
Well it's not honest amuse bouche Oct 2012 #33
So who here in DC can go and get us a current photo? JimDandy Oct 2012 #38
The Atlantic Wire posted one from earlier today: pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #45
It was fake nichomachus Oct 2012 #49
But the rain is real... Historic NY Oct 2012 #54
Duty brings honor B Stieg Oct 2012 #29
Cpl. Beddoe thelarge Oct 2012 #31
I admire their service. Third Doctor Oct 2012 #32
God bless them & all our Troops..... skeewee08 Oct 2012 #34
And Robme wants to outsource their honor to mercenaries and deny them benefits.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #36
Good for them! Wish I were there to give them warm soup and steak when they get off duty. JimDandy Oct 2012 #37
I had the pleasure of being downstairs at a church waiting for the funeral detail to carry southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #40
Hoaxed tjwash Oct 2012 #43
I guess it doesn't matter around here that this was disingenuously faked by the US Army Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #44
So you are saying.. SQUEE Oct 2012 #46
The military dishonored The Guard obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #47
So is the tomb being guarded right now or not? eom yawnmaster Oct 2012 #58
If you borrow a VERY broad use of the word "fake" Scootaloo Oct 2012 #60
That's how it works. Turbineguy Oct 2012 #48
The guards have two small shelters where they can stand out of the storm OldRedneck Oct 2012 #52
Awesome Picture lib87 Oct 2012 #53
as i said before johnt_1956_55 Oct 2012 #56
Come on now, stick them in something more appropriate. Rex Oct 2012 #61

formercia

(18,479 posts)
4. I used to hang out with the 'Old Guard'
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:58 AM
Oct 2012

They can party hearty off duty. 2 crazy Black Women. One was a Vet that took care of the Horses, and the other worked at the White House.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
3. That is scary.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

Tradition is great. But, Mother Nature should not be taken lightly. Those boys should be out of harm's way!

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
42. It's not that bad yet.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:11 PM
Oct 2012

I live in the DC area. Tonight or tomorrow they may be in danger from high winds, but just now it's just raining hard and a little windy. Just a little.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
6. Those soldiers live for this.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:01 PM
Oct 2012

This is why they are there.

Probably one of their proudest moments.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
7. Exactly.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:07 PM
Oct 2012

As a Marine mom, I'm sure their parents are wishing they'd get the hell out of there, but I also know how proud those parents are.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
21. ^ This.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:35 PM
Oct 2012

For real. These guys are incredibly dedicated to what they do. The spend hours each day just preparing their uniforms before going on watch.

PB

calimary

(81,238 posts)
50. Perhaps that's what the phrase "Semper Fi" means - even if you're not a Marine.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:45 PM
Oct 2012

Another demonstration of service, sacrifice, and devotion to duty.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
13. With past storms, they have been offered the chance to stand down.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012

They always refuse. The Tomb is that important to them.

They amaze me.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
51. Welcome to DU, troutbrook! It's all about duty.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:49 PM
Oct 2012

I guess this is just one dramatic way to demonstrate it, or symbolize it. While I too (as a mom) wish those boys were inside where they're warm and dry and hopefully not catching cold. That said, I clearly recognize the meaning behind the service in that photo. It's all about devotion to duty. Honor. Sacrifice. Service. To something greater. To some, that kind of thing will never make sense. But the transcendent is essential to our nature, and it's what elevates us out of the lizard-brain slime.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
25. They will be pulled
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:54 PM
Oct 2012

There is no standing order that they MUST be on guard during dangerous weather conditions. Some ignore the order to stand-down.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
39. What is that precise and relevant point?
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:15 PM
Oct 2012

"At some point...

What is that precise and relevant point, and on what objective measure is that based on?

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
55. It's most commonly done for lightning
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

The concept that they are left out to die is an urban legend promoted largely by chicken hawk conservatives.

My uncle worked at Arlington (civilian) for 25 years.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
9. OMG I hope they pull them when this storm makes landfall
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:13 PM
Oct 2012

I know what these soldiers do is important but so is their lives!

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
35. Trust me, Lynne. They would have to be physically removed.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:36 PM
Oct 2012

I have known some of these guys, and the Third Herd eats this shit up!

 

DaDeacon

(984 posts)
12. Information about the Guard from "Tombguard.org/society/faq/"
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:36 PM
Oct 2012
Do you guard in a blizzard or a bad thunderstorm?

YES, BUT the accomplishment of the mission and welfare of the Soldier is never put at risk. The Tomb Guards have contingencies that are ready to be executed IF the weather conditions EVER place the Soldiers at risk of injury or death – such as lightning, high winds, etc. This ensures that Sentinels can maintain the Tomb Guard responsibilities while ensuring soldier safety. It is the responsibility of the Chain of Command from the Sergeant of the Guard to the Regimental Commander to ensure mission accomplishment and soldier welfare at all times.

It was erroneously reported that during Hurricane Isabel, the Sentinels were ordered to abandon their posts for shelter and that they refused. No such order was ever given. All proper precautions were taken to ensure the safety of the Sentinels while accomplishing their mission. Risk assessments are constantly conducted by the Chain of Command during changing conditions to ensure that soldier welfare is maintained during mission accomplishment.

I think as of right now all they are are getting is strong wind and cold heavy rain, any Marine will tell you that's not so bad.

Semper Fi.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
17. I know everyone is getting chills and goosebumps but I'm seeing
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:08 PM
Oct 2012

three men who could be used to assist with actual storm related activities now. Yes, this monument is an important symbol but leaving it unguarded to help the living would not be a disaster.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
23. It's not just 'a symbol', it's part of 'the deal'. No one left behind.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

A code of honor between soldiers. I doubt they will break it.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
18. In 1969 during the Vietnam Moritorium (google it)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:25 PM
Oct 2012

I stood guard on the Tomb. Not as an honor guard but as a draftee 'guarding' the guards. One four hour tour. I also stood guard on the Lincoln Memorial. Ya' could kinda slouch around during your four hour tour everywhere but here. That was one long fucking four hours.

It was a very interesting time to be in the Army . . .

reflection

(6,286 posts)
27. Just visited that a few weeks ago.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:58 PM
Oct 2012

It was powerful and sobering. Seeing these soldiers standing tall makes it even more so.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
33. Well it's not honest
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:25 PM
Oct 2012

I don't get the point of being dishonest about the origin, time and space of a picture. Like I said, what's the point?

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I don't find anything beautiful about needless death. I say that as someone who lost a family members in W's senseless war and 2 uncles in the asinine debacle of Nam

The true beauty would be if they were still with us for the holidays rather than the empty place settings we still set

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
36. And Robme wants to outsource their honor to mercenaries and deny them benefits....
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:02 PM
Oct 2012

Fuck the Republicans....

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
40. I had the pleasure of being downstairs at a church waiting for the funeral detail to carry
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:39 PM
Oct 2012

the casket for burial. My dad and mom are buried there. These young people were so nice and really felt that were happy to be there to support the families. No matter what race or nationality or religion these soldiers are they showed respect to everyone. I will never forget their kindness on the worst day of my life. Wheter your a general or an enlisted man they treat you the same.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
46. So you are saying..
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:21 PM
Oct 2012

That at this moment two young men are not standing as Sentinels at the the Tomb?
Because that's what matters to me, them and most who have served. They are keeping a covenant to their brothers to never leave a fallen comrade behind. If this picture was taken last year, my pride in them and their honor and duty remains.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
47. The military dishonored The Guard
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:29 PM
Oct 2012

By not being truthful about what the photo. There is no reason to lie, and I am personally rather ticked they used the dead and The Guard in this way.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
60. If you borrow a VERY broad use of the word "fake"
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:13 AM
Oct 2012

The statement is the men are still standing their watch. The picture is not from Hurricane Sandy, but they don't say that it is; However, foul weather one day at the memorial probably isn't greatly different from foul weather on another day.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
52. The guards have two small shelters where they can stand out of the storm
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oct 2012

Look at the photo. Note the soldier who is facing the camera. Between him and the two guys facing the tomb is a long black stripe. That stripe is actually a heavy rubber covering, similar to AstroTurf without the grass. The guards march back and forth on this when they are guarding the Tomb.

At each end of this walking strip is a small shelter, similar to a telephone booth (I know -- you young folks who were issued a cell phone at birth don't know what a phone booth is, but, trust me -- I'm an Old Redneck). In the case of inclement weather, the guards can stand in the shelter.

There's only one guard on duty at a time. This photo showing three is the changing of the guard. The guy facing the camera is the Sergeant of the Guard. One of the two others is the guard who is going off duty, the other is coming on duty. They go through a set of precision movements so there is no interruption in the guard.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
61. Come on now, stick them in something more appropriate.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:22 AM
Oct 2012

Like rain gear. No reason for one to catch a cold and get sick.

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