Ok, I get it. The subway shooting was horrible

[maxrandb]

but the media saturation is really ever the top. For 11 hours yesterday, MSNBC ran repeats of the same story, just with different hosts.

My bride mentioned; "hey! Wasn't there a mass shooting in Sacramento a couple days ago where 6 people were actually killed."

Why yes! There was a mass shooting that killed 6 people in Sacramento recently. That shooting didn't get 24/7 coverage, but it should have.

Is it because it's New York?

Is it because the shooter was African American?

Is the Ukraine genocide over?

Donnie Dipshit still free?

They have provided more coverage to this event than they did for the January 6 insurrection.

Anyway, just venting.

[Tomconroy]

1. It being in NYC is at least part of the reason

[Celerity]

12. +1

[NJCher]

15. totally

just have to run down the street to cover the story.

And btw, it is the communications center of the U.S. so if you want to work in communications, you live here. I moved here decades ago for just that reason and yes, I did my stint and enjoyed and profited it from it.

If you don't want to live in NYC, you live in a particular suburb of NJ, the same one Eric Boehlert lived in. It's full of NY media people.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

23. I hate "me too" posts, but "me too."

Also, wasn't the 2022 Sacramento shooting an incident arising from a dispute over which gang rightfully possessed which turf? So how do you plan to stop that?

The shooting in Brooklyn got a lot of airtime in DC, because New York has a subway, and DC has a subway.

[Srkdqltr]

2. The media has way too much time and too many who want to say the same thing as the one before.

They ask the same questions over and over get the same or similar answers then go the the next one with the same, same , same.

Of course we are not supposed to watch it 24/7. It is set up for people who watch at different hours.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

3. How dare News get reported on!

It amazes me how people are only able to learn about one news story at once and are unable to turn off tvs.
Especiallly since they know enough about other stories to complain that they aren’t being reported on.

[Sympthsical]

14. It was kind of my thinking there

I have no idea what's being played on cable news 24/7 . . . because I'm not glued to cable news 24/7. Why would someone do that . . .

It isn't even being discussed very much here.The Will Smith slap got a lot more play. I was looking at GD this morning, and the front page had one post on the shooting with 2 replies. Little bit of an uptick with the arrest. Still no real mega threads about it. No narrative in it if it wasn't a white Trumpist. Can't really play the What This All Means and How This Is Proof of My Beliefs. Where is the National Conversation, people?!

Cable news, well, of course they're on it. Plus NYC, where most of our national media are located. Of course they're wall to wall. If someone sneezes in NYC we hear about it. They're insular like that.

[BlackSkimmer]

30. Thank you.

[Raine]

4. Totally agree

It doesn't even matter whether there's a new development or not they just repeat the same old things again and again.

[H2O Man]

5. The media focus

was because the investigators thought that there was a very good chance the shithead would strike again, and said so to reporters. The coverage was intended to help alert the public to the immediate need to find him. It was a Good Thing, and in so sense bad, or an attempt to not cover other pressing issues. Indeed, in the majority of mass shooting attacks, the shithead is caught or killed in a relatively short time, and there is no need to saturate the media as was done in this case.

[ShazzieB]

32. Good points!

Especially the part about mass shooters usually being caught or killed pretty promptly (unlike this one).

As long as the shooter was eluding capture, this was an ongoing story with an as yet unknown ending. That pretty much mandates a different kind of coverage from a story where the shooter is dead or in custody (and no longer a danger to the general public).

[H2O Man]

41. Right.

When a person who has used a gun to shoot 30+ times before it jams, who had two smoke bombs and materials for a home-made explosive device, an axe, and has clothing that suggests he has put thought into his attack on society is on the run, it is mighty important to keep the public informed. Can you imagine the complaints we would hear if the police had not requested the media cover the situation closely, and then the shithead attacked another group of people?

I understand that this is a hard time, and that the array of extremely serious problems wears people out. That tired people are more prone to finding things annoying. But this was a good response to a terrible situation that needed a quick conclusion so far as taking the guy into custody.

It's funny -- on FB, a guy I don't really know was complaining about the coverage on CNN, saying the l"iberal media" (sic) refuses to report that this was a racist black man attacking white people. That strikes me as close to as tortured thinking as one can suffer from. I said that this was something beyond "politics," that all good people should be horrified by these types of events. He responded by calling me a "leftist fool," though he has never met nor talked with me. Ha!

[Meowmee]

50. Exactly

They were searching for a suspect who they thought could strike again in the near future in another subway.

[malaise]

51. THIS

[Joinfortmill]

6. Media sucks.

[fishwax]

7. it's partly b/c it is NYC and partly b/c it involves transportation/commuting infrastructure

When something like this happens on the subway it is a particularly newsworthy situation because of the nature of the space (its essential function and its particular vulnerability).

Also the fact that, yesterday at least, it remained an active shooter situation, thus potentially putting literally millions of people at risk of another attack.

[Scrivener7]

11. +1. Well said.

[ShazzieB]

33. Exactly!

[hunter]

8. I quit television news and opinion a few days after 9/11 and haven't watched it since.

It was bad for my mental health.

My wife was never a big television news watcher.

We read all our news.

[bif]

21. I'm with you there

I haven't watched the news in many years. I used to listen to NPR but I've even given that up About the only news I hear is on CBC Radio. I do read the NYT on Sundays. And of course DU.

[BlackSkimmer]

9. I believe the shooters in Sacramento were black too. So no on that supposition.

Last I read, it was gang related, which is probably why the coverage is not as intense.

I think a person shooting into a crowded subway car warrants a LOT of coverage. No complaints here.

[Paladin]

10. It's because it's New York. Happens over and over again. (nt)

[milestogo]

19. Exactly.

[maxsolomon]

13. NYC is the center of the news universe.

Sacramento is not.

[dchill]

16. Yep. They spent the whole day broadcasting...

...supposition and misinformation. If it bleeds, it leads.

[Mr.Bill]

17. It still hasn't gotten as much air time

as Tiger Woods' car accident.

[BlackSkimmer]

31. Or "the slap"!

My god, the "slap" had WAY more threads here than a shooting in a crowded subway car. Go figure.

[ripcord]

18. It got more attention because at first the smoke bomb was reported as an explosive

The use of the smoke bomb also showed it to be premeditated which lead to speculation of a terrorist attack.

[Danmel]

20. I think it is also because there were detonations

And smoke released and people in their way to work were shot. And in New York right now, there is a very strong perception, deserved or not, that crime is out of control. This is blamed by right wingers on bail reform, so it gets a lot of play.

[FreepFryer]

22. I really think grass isn't green enough. It should be greener. For my benefit. (Nt)

[MOMFUDSKI]

24. I am about to get snarky here and may get slapped by the mods.

Do the people of NY understand that they are not the be all and end all of the US? The rest of us appreciate news about ANY part of our country, of course, but NY is not special. If you watch the Weather Channel it is always the NE that they hone in on. Every Time. That is all.

[ShazzieB]

42. No, they don't.

Having spent some time in NYC (albeit a while back), I can tell you that it's very easy to feel like one is in the center of the universe of everything that matters. And New York really IS the center of the universe for a lot of things, and has been for quite a while, and I don't think it's likely to change.

After my time in New York, I went back to Illinois and attended a state university that was jam-packed with kids from Chicago and its suburbs. Virtually everyone I met there acted like Chicago was the center of the universe. Being from a different part of the state that was nowhere near Chicago, I was appalled by how many of them didn't seem to be aware there was ANYTHING outside of Chicagoland. I didn't expect them to recognize the name of the one horse town where my parents lived, but they didn't act like they'd ever heard of any of the cities I mentioned to give them an idea where it was, either, even one that was the 3rd largest city in Illinois at that time. They didn't even grasp what the phrase "western Illinois" meant. It was...exasperating at times.

But if any of those kids had gone to school in New York, I guarantee you they would have gotten the same blank stares I got from them whenever they told anyone where they were from (other than people being vaguely aware of the existence of a city named Chicago).

I've lived most of my adult life in Illinois at this point, the last 30 years of it in the Chicago area, and by now, my personal frame of reference is a lot more Chicago-centric than it used to be. But I also know that this whole state (including big, culturally and ethnically diverse, exciting, and vibrant Chicago), along with all the other "midwestern" states, is nothing but "flyover" country to a lot of people on the east and west coasts, including New Yorkers. That's just the way it is, I've gotten used to it, and I don't take it personally. I'm not crazy about it, but I know there's nothing I can do to change it, and I don't take it as a direct insult to Chicago, Illinois, or the midwest.

I don't think the coverage of the Brooklyn subway shooter should be seen as a direct insult to Sacramento, either. I honestly don't.

[electric_blue68]

49. Proud NYC'r who loves some other cities...

San Francisco, Boston, Philadelphia, DC.

I don't think I'll make it to Seattle.

I've wanted to Chicago for a long time. 👍 Looks like great city from bits I've read, and looked at through the decades.
I might wait till Prs Obama's Library is finished.

[Rebl2]

25. Well NY is a

major media hub. Not surprised. They wanted to find him before he did more damage. It’s where 9/11 happened. They are likely not to get over that for a very long time. By the way there was/has been way more coverage on 1/6 than yesterday’s event.
Guess what, I am in KCMO and we have had 5 murders in the last day and half. Not on the national news. Last week in richly rich Johnson county KS there was a murder suicide-husband, wife and I am guessing (but not sure) a daughter. Wasn’t on the national news either. You tired of listening to MSNBC coverage, do what I do and watch something else or turn off the tv.

[CTyankee]

26. I was petrified! My son takes that subway to work every day.

I called, left a message imploring him to call me back and he did. Thank god he was in the Bronx, interviewing a witness for an upcoming trial (he's a prosecutor with the Brooklyn DA's office).

It took a minute for me to settle down.

[Catherine Vincent]

27. It's to appease the white nationalists out there

And on Twitter they are still whining there isn't enough coverage. I'm like wtf?

[BlackSkimmer]

34. Wait, what? News about a shooting in a subway car is to appease white nationalists?

Seriously???

[ForgedCrank]

28. The criminals in

both cases were black I believe, so I doubt the difference in coverage is based on racial decisions by the media.
That fact should be absolutely irrelevant anyway, along with political affiliation, religion, or whatever hateful people might attempt to tag this as.
The fact is that all were committed by evil people. Seems to me that the difference may be that the California shooting was gang related, and no one pays a lot of attention to that, especially when they shoot each other.
Right or wrong, it just seems that way. "gang member shoots gang member" won't get a lot of clicks.

[tirebiter]

29. Mayor Adams is not afraid to say guns are the problem

Last edited Thu Apr 21, 2022, 10:35 PM - Edit history (1)

I’ve seen a lot of smack thrown at Adams here on DU but he’s carrying the anti handgun message better than most others.

It did seem like the news talkers wanted to put any problems in the category of not enough cameras. Hopefully the bad guy getting caught will cool that down.

[BlackSkimmer]

35. Well, the turd that shot up the subway car bought his handgun legally.

in 2011, so...

[brooklynite]

36. How about...

This was a random and (as far as we know) a target less attack, as opposed to Sacramento which was gang violence that people are used to.

The suspect wasn’t captured for more than 24 hours, which meant people were thinking about the possibility that an additional random attack could occur.

As for your “why isn’t the media covering what **I** think is important!” Rant, what the the media not cover yesterday that you’re concerned about? Are you saying there were no stories about Ukraine or Trump yesterday?

[spooky3]

37. Posts here remind me of this New Yorker cover:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_World_from_9th_Avenue

[NJCher]

43. I like to call it geocentrism

thanks for the reminder and ensuing chuckle over that famous cover.

[brooklynite]

44. I had calls from as far away as Holland asking if I was okay...

This wasn’t just a “New York” thing

[LisaM]

38. Because a lot of us ride transit and it's relevant to us.

I needed to ride light rail yesterday and today and yes, security and being aware of who's around me were at the top of my mind. Seattle's system is underground so I hope they have a plan if something like that happens in our deep tunnels.

[jalan48]

39. It was a different and more exciting type of shooting that allowed the media to hype it more.

American's get bored with routine killings after awhile.

[WarGamer]

40. Like when the Ukraine War started, all other global conflicts ended?

I hear ya...

[DashOneBravo]

45. I think it's a good thing.

It seems like they are starting to do their jobs.

Remember the Pulse shooting where everyone was denying that it was a guy claiming to be motivated by ISIS? Until someone released the 911 calls.

Ft Hood shooting was the same. Remember the push to label it as work places violence? Even though the guy had clear ties and shouted “
Al·la·hu Ak·bar” before shooting up a room full of admin clerks.

[live love laugh]

46. Mental illness is rampant. nt

[LudwigPastorius]

47. The MO initially looked like a terrorist-type of attack.

There was a big terrorist attack that was (partly) in New York 21 years ago.

[JI7]

48. The shooting suspects in Sacramento were also Black

NY always gets more attention. Just look at how much the Cuomo thing was made national with them demanding Pelosi respond to questions about it .

[Meowmee]

52. I didn't watch much news the past two days or so and felt sick

And watched old tv shows all day. The little I did see was not all that was covered. I saw coverage of j6, ukr and more as well. I have also seen the same sort of coverage of other mass shootings in the past, not in NYC, pretty much non stop coverage for the first few days and especially if the shooter(s) are not found right away. We were in manhattan at a hospital the day of sandy hook, non stop coverage on that.

In this case they were trying to locate a suspect who could strike again on another subway car and there were details that suggested pre planning and possible terrorism etc. So preventing another possible attack on transit was a concern as well.