There's no crying in baseball and you don't pull a pitcher after 7 perfect innings.

[mobeau69]

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Dodgers pulled Kershaw after 7 perfect innings? Geez O’F/NPete!

[True Dough]

1. Have we heard from Kershaw yet?

I wonder if he's spoken his mind about the manager's decision on that?

[mobeau69]

3. Said he "agreed" with the decision. LOL.

[Tommy Carcetti]

11. For sure. nt

[Emile]

2. Did they lose the game?

[mobeau69]

4. No.

[SmallFry]

5. I really enjoy sports but actually don't keep up with them.

I can have a blast going to a local game without knowing the players names, standings, etc.

Baseball is a sport I really enjoy. As a fan I would take serious issue if that’s a game I spent money to go see and they pulled the pitcher. Might even use that as a moment to teach my son the appropriate time to hurl curse words at someone in public. 😁

Anyone in the Tampa area who even remotely enjoys sports get yourself some Clearwater Threshers tickets on a Saturday night. Great time for all ages. Huge jungle gym for kids, good seafood, great fireworks show, often ends with a concert from an eighties rock or R & B band. I have tickets to two upcoming games. Best seats in the house are $11.

[edbermac]

6. Back in my day the pitcher would go the whole 9 innings if he was ahead.

Not really a fan of using your whole bullpen for the entire game.

[BannonsLiver]

26. When was that, the Shoeless Joe era?

Relievers have been part of baseball for 60 years.

[edbermac]

28. Back in the 60's in Boston.

Starters would usually be taken out if they were getting hit pretty hard. In the 67 season the Sox ace Jim Lonborg completed 15 games. In 74 Luis Tiant had 25 complete games.

[Norbert]

7. Not surprised. A week into the season and likely no pitcher went beyond 7 innings

in the era of the pitch count.

If it was May 13th and not April 13th he may have completed the game if he still had his stuff.

[Tommy Carcetti]

12. Yeah, but 80 pitches with 2 innings to go?

That's just sad.

[Norbert]

15. Agree completely

[Auggie]

8. You pull him today. And Kershaw would rather have a World Series Ring.

Get real -- it was a short Spring training. Don't risk injury.

[mobeau69]

10. Nope, you go for immortality!

[Auggie]

19. Are you a Giants fan?

Losing Kershaw for the year puts L.A. in a serious hole.

As I Giants fan that would be awful.

Kershaw said his slider was horrible the last two innings and didn't "have the bite." "It was time," he said.

Kershaw took himself out of the game.

[gab13by13]

9. I came out of high school

and joined a local league, very good league, Cy Young winner Sparky Lyle played in the league. I hadn't played baseball in a while and the first game I pitched I walked the first 3 batters and the next guy hit a grand slam. It was 40 degrees that day. I pitched into the 11th inning with the score 4-4, I could hardly reach home plate. They scored 2 and we scored 1. It took me a month to get my arm recovered.

[Best_man23]

13. If he wasn't tired, I would have let him go

Until he completed the nine, or gives up the first base hit.

[Emile]

14. My son was a running back in highschool. It was in the sectional run up

game my son had rushed over 430 yards and was taken out of the game early in the fourth quarter. The coach was thinking about the sectional championship game next week and didn't want to risk injury. The next morning newspaper we found out my son only needed twenty yards to have a state record. He ended up blowing out his acl in his right knee the following Wednesday night practice.

[bottomofthehill]

16. He had an arm injury most of last year

Off season surgery and a short spring training. Even for a pitcher, baseball is a long season. As a manager sometimes you have to protect your players from themselves. It’s a killer to give up a perfect game though.

[RaDaR63]

17. Crap like this

and cheaters holding records is why I lost interest in MLB. I hear the NL has the DH now. Nothing like making the game less interesting.

[mobeau69]

18. The almighty dollar did a lot of damage to the game. Better when you played for the pennant when

that was the only ticket to the World Series. Those were the days my friend.

[Shrek]

21. Not only does the NL have a DH

But the extra-innings rule now means that a pitcher can pitch a perfect game and still lose on a groundout and a sacrifice fly in the bottom of the 10th.

[IngridsLittleAngel]

23. I hate the DH

A lot of people respond to that with "What? You want to see pitchers hit?!" Not so much that as I don't care for seeing "position" players only come to bat but not play defense.

However, with the universal DH and (most) pitchers no longer batting? We will never again see a moment as timeless and amazing as this:

[IngridsLittleAngel]

20. Lifelong Dodgers fan here...

Right decision. Disappointing, and will be an eternal "What if...", but, the right decision.

Kershaw has landed on the DL in every single full season since 2016. For years, it was his back. In recent years, his arm. Last year? 22 starts and just over 121 innings thanks to elbow problems. His career is now where Pedro Martinez's was in the second half of his: He's fragile, he has a history injury, he's now on a pitch and innings limit.

He was rolling. He looked amazing. He flirted with history. But do you risk blowing Kershaw up for good going for it - after last year's elbow injury, and this year's shortened spring training? I say no. I'd like to see him on the mound pitching like this in October, and if it means pulling him after 7 perfect innings in April, I can live with it.

For me, the one that'll always hurt the most is the June 18, 2014 no-hitter against the Rockies. 15 K's, 0 hits, 0 walks... One lousy Hanley Ramirez throwing error away from perfection. When I look back on Kershaw's career and think of "What if..."'s, that's going to hurt worse than yesterday.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

22. It's all about analytics and keeping the player healthy.

I get that there might be some "immortality" here, but there is zero reason to blow out this guy's arm (someone who has an injury history) this early in the season for an unimportant game.

[ripcord]

24. People like to create drama where there is none

But Kershaw had to consider the left forearm injury that he struggled with last season and the platelet-rich plasma injection he had in October that caused a delay to his normal offseason work. Then there was the lockout and the abbreviated Spring Training.

So Kershaw knew the hook was coming from manager Dave Roberts.

“Blame it on the lockout, blame it on me not picking up a baseball until January,” said the 34-year-old left-hander, who threw a no-hitter in 2014 against the Rockies. “My slider was horrible the last two innings. It didn’t have the bite. It was time.”

https://www.mlb.com/news/clayton-kershaw-removed-from-perfect-game

[BannonsLiver]

25. You do when that pitcher was shut down because of forearm tightness last year

Which is often a precursor to Tommy John surgery. They’ve been managing him carefully all pre season.

[onenote]

27. Agreed: There's no crying in baseball. So why are people whining about the decision?

[Omaha Steve]

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